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Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« on: July 04, 2023, 05:12:44 pm »
Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary

Hannah Bleau4 Jul 202315
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Anti-woke businessman Vivek Ramaswamy broke into double digits in the Republican primary race, the latest Echelon Insights survey found.

Similar to other national surveys, the poll finds former President Donald Trump with a strong lead in the primary race at 49 percent support. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis falls 33 points behind with 16 percent support. Ramaswamy comes in a close third place at ten percent support, just six points behind DeSantis, making him the only other candidate to break into double-digit territory.

No other candidate comes close to double digits, as former Vice President Mike Pence and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley tie with five percent support. South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott sees four percent support, followed by former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie with two percent and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and Miami Mayor Francis Suarez, both of whom garner one percent support.

It appears Ramaswamy comes in third place in battleground states as well. Trump leads in battleground states with a majority of support, 56 percent, followed by DeSantis with 22 percent support and Ramaswamy with seven percent.


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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2023, 05:17:21 pm »
If this poll is accurate, and these polls are all over the map, it may show the GOP primary fight is more dynamic than we are led to believe

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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2023, 05:28:10 pm »
Ramsy (shortened for ease, not to offend) IMHO is another Obammy and just as dangerous to our Republic.  Nothing is truly known about him and he has emerged out of nowhere.  Neither of his parents are U.S. citizens.  So, in my books, he is NOT eligible to be a presidential candidate.

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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2023, 06:52:32 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 04, 2023, 05:28:10 pm
Neither of his parents are U.S. citizens.  So, in my books, he is NOT eligible to be a presidential candidate.

There seems to be some disagreement between your books and the US Constitution.  Vivek was born a US citizen and has live his entire life in the US as a US citizen.  No State would have any legal basis leaving him off the ballot because of where his parents were born.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2023, 07:00:02 pm »
What I REALLY like about him...his quickness and clarity on his feet in front of a camera.

That is truly a gift in our American Idol , er TIK-TOK culture.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2023, 07:06:09 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 04, 2023, 07:00:02 pm
What I REALLY like about him...his quickness and clarity on his feet in front of a camera.

That is truly a gift in our American Idol , er TIK-TOK culture.

Reminds me of Ben Shapiro.  I would gladly vote for Ramaswamy.  Not any government bureaucracy experience.  But unlike Trump, he has been deeply vested in identifying the failures of Democrat policies for years now.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2023, 07:12:47 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 04, 2023, 07:06:09 pm
Reminds me of Ben Shapiro.  I would gladly vote for Ramaswamy.  Not any government bureaucracy experience.  But unlike Trump, he has been deeply vested in identifying the failures of Democrat policies for years now.

Yes, exactly like Shapiro. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2023, 07:20:10 pm »
Did they poll those below the age of 25?  Because this guy advocates not letting them vote.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2023, 07:27:03 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on July 04, 2023, 07:20:10 pm
Did they poll those below the age of 25?  Because this guy advocates not letting them vote.

He taking Churchill literally "...and if you're still a liberal at 27 you have no brain"
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2023, 07:33:51 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 04, 2023, 07:27:03 pm
He taking Churchill literally "...and if you're still a liberal at 27 you have no brain"

According to Churchill, at the age of 15, I had no heart.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2023, 07:42:50 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 04, 2023, 07:33:51 pm
According to Churchill, at the age of 15, I had no heart.

Wasn't sure what ages he used in the quote.

At 15, weren't we both leaning on 'emotion' when being preached to by TPTB?
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2023, 07:53:05 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on July 04, 2023, 07:27:03 pm
He taking Churchill literally "...and if you're still a liberal at 27 you have no brain"

The right to vote shouldn't be dependent upon whether or not you agree with certain political views.

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2023, 08:23:27 pm »
Mr. DeSantis has already taken himself out of the running to be Mr. Trump's VP candidate.

At the rate he's going, Mr. Ramaswamy might get that nod instead.

He may even pass Mr. DeSantis in the polls to take over the "2nd place spot".

I'm thinking that even as he ascends, Mr. Ramaswamy is going to tread lightly on Mr. Trump. He knows that he has no chance to overtake Trump, so he'll use his candidacy as a vehicle to speak his mind and accrue props and see where that takes him into the Republican convention...
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2023, 08:29:25 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 04, 2023, 08:23:27 pm
Mr. DeSantis has already taken himself out of the running to be Mr. Trump's VP candidate.

The Twelfth Amendment already did that.  Not sure why Trump zealots keep pushing this same false bullshit narrative.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2023, 08:36:02 pm »
We'll know for sure when the usual suspect shows up to smear him.

Otherwise, mere kabuki. He'll rise, knock DeSantis out of the running, then there will be a mysterious draft candidate who will steal Vivek's thunder and will themselves flame out before Iowa, clearing the way for The King.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2023, 08:37:40 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 04, 2023, 08:23:27 pm
Mr. DeSantis has already taken himself out of the running to be Mr. Trump's VP candidate.

At the rate he's going, Mr. Ramaswamy might get that nod instead.

He may even pass Mr. DeSantis in the polls to take over the "2nd place spot".

I'm thinking that even as he ascends, Mr. Ramaswamy is going to tread lightly on Mr. Trump. He knows that he has no chance to overtake Trump, so he'll use his candidacy as a vehicle to speak his mind and accrue props and see where that takes him into the Republican convention...

He's very young.  Has decades to become POTUS.

Right now, he's going for name recognition, building his brand.  He would definitely have a place in a GOP cabinet.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2023, 09:40:35 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 04, 2023, 08:23:27 pm
Mr. DeSantis has already taken himself out of the running to be Mr. Trump's VP candidate.

At the rate he's going, Mr. Ramaswamy might get that nod instead.

He may even pass Mr. DeSantis in the polls to take over the "2nd place spot".

I'm thinking that even as he ascends, Mr. Ramaswamy is going to tread lightly on Mr. Trump. He knows that he has no chance to overtake Trump, so he'll use his candidacy as a vehicle to speak his mind and accrue props and see where that takes him into the Republican convention...

@Fishrrman

I would like to know a little more about him before I become a supporter,but he MIGHT be a good fit in Trump's VP spot.

I do know I would like to find out more.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2023, 10:58:47 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 04, 2023, 06:52:32 pm
There seems to be some disagreement between your books and the US Constitution.  Vivek was born a US citizen and has live his entire life in the US as a US citizen.  No State would have any legal basis leaving him off the ballot because of where his parents were born.

Being born a U.S. citizen is not the standard. Being born a citizen without the aid of any legislative act ever devised is the standard.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2023, 12:01:59 am »
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Being born a U.S. citizen is not the standard. Being born a citizen without the aid of any legislative act ever devised is the standard.
???

Legislative acts determine citizenship for all Americans. Whether it's the 14th Amendment or other acts of Congress.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2023, 12:45:33 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 05, 2023, 12:01:59 am
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Legislative acts determine citizenship for all Americans. Whether it's the 14th Amendment or other acts of Congress.

Bzzzz! Wrong! I was born on U.S. soil of parents who were citizens when I was born so no legislation required. I am a Natural Born Citizen.
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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2023, 02:18:37 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 04, 2023, 10:58:47 pm
Being born a U.S. citizen is not the standard. Being born a citizen without the aid of any legislative act ever devised is the standard.

Are you counting the 14th Amendment as a "legislative act?"
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2023, 03:12:43 pm »
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Are you counting the 14th Amendment as a "legislative act?"

Yes! What else would it be?
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2023, 04:17:01 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 05, 2023, 03:12:43 pm
Yes! What else would it be?

Thought so - I was just checking because you also said:

Quote from: Bigun on July 04, 2023, 10:58:47 pm
Being born a citizen without the aid of any legislative act ever devised is the standard.

But if the 14th Amendment is a "legislative act", then the Constitution itself is a "legislative act", in which case the entire "natural born citizen" argument you're making is without any basis either because it was only established by a "legislative act."
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2023, 04:23:16 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on July 05, 2023, 04:17:01 pm
Thought so - I was just checking because you also said:

But if the 14th Amendment is a "legislative act", then the Constitution itself is a "legislative act", in which case the entire "natural born citizen" argument you're making is without any basis either because it was only established by a "legislative act."

THAT is a HUGE load of Bovine Fecal Matter and you know it!

The 14th amendment was created by legislation and the debates surrounding it are recorded in the Congressional Globe.

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Passed by the Senate on June 8, 1866, and ratified two years later, on July 9, 1868...

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Re: Poll: Vivek Ramaswamy Breaks into Double Digits in Republican Primary
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2023, 04:44:11 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on July 05, 2023, 04:17:01 pm
Thought so - I was just checking because you also said:

But if the 14th Amendment is a "legislative act", then the Constitution itself is a "legislative act", in which case the entire "natural born citizen" argument you're making is without any basis either because it was only established by a "legislative act."

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