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BOMBSHELL: Sunday Times reveals that COVID-19 developed by military at Wuhan lab

DAVID STROM
June 12, 2023

You knew it. I knew it. Anthony Fauci and company undoubtedly knew it too.

But the US public health establishment has been denying it for 3 years because they were partially responsible.

The UK’s Sunday Times, basically a centrist equivalent of The New York Times for Great Britain (The New York Times was actually named after the Times), has a bombshell report that COVID-19 was indeed engineered by the Chinese military using US funding. The US funding came through the EcoHealth Alliance.


https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl/status/1667937190943367168

The trail of money went, as we already know, from the NIH through the EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The Chinese Military became involved in the coronavirus research around 2017 when gain-of-function research started bearing fruit.

The Times’ report, which I strongly suspect is absolutely true although I have to take the Times’ word on the provenance of the evidence, is based upon confidential documents leaked to them by investigators who were sent to Wuhan to study the outbreak. It also comes directly from the United States State Department’s investigators who were sent to China to investigate the origins of the virus. There are extensive quotes from those State Department investigators.

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Source:  https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/06/12/bombshell-covid-19-developed-by-military-at-wuhan-lab-n557307

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This is the most comprehensive look at the origins of COVID that I have seen.

The Sunday Times of London is now part of the "kook fringe." The key passage:

"The investigators believe the Chinese military had taken an interest in developing a vaccine for the viruses so they could be used as potential bioweapons. If a country could inoculate its population against its own secret virus, it might have a weapon to shift the balance of world power."

And, oh by the way, we were funding it.

It does not make Trump look good. It was going on during his administration, and then he elevated the guy in charge of it all to de facto national dictator.

And who among the ruling class was telling us the truth? Two people: Rand Paul and RFKjr. Everyone else perpetuated the lies for the "common good."

The federal government as we know it needs to be dismantled and radically transformed based on our constitutional principles. It is corrupt beyond repair.

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Biological weapons are too indiscriminate to be of long-term value.  Plus, there is always the probability that the biological agent will evolve in the wild to nullify the efficacy of existing vaccines.

The Chi-coms' flooding America with Fentanyl is a much better strategy for weakening its enemy, America.
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BOMBSHELL: COVID-19 developed by military at Wuhan lab
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You knew it. I knew it. Anthony Fauci and company undoubtedly knew it too.

But the US public health establishment has been denying it for 3 years because they were partially responsible.

The UK’s Sunday Times, basically a centrist equivalent of The New York Times for Great Britain (The New York Times was actually named after the Times), has a bombshell report that COVID-19 was indeed engineered by the Chinese military using US funding. The US funding came through the EcoHealth Alliance.

The trail of money went, as we already know, from the NIH through the EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The Chinese Military became involved in the coronavirus research around 2017 when gain-of-function research started bearing fruit.

The Times’ report, which I strongly suspect is absolutely true although I have to take the Times’ word on the provenance of the evidence, is based upon confidential documents leaked to them by investigators who were sent to Wuhan to study the outbreak. It also comes directly from the United States State Department’s investigators who were sent to China to investigate the origins of the virus. There are extensive quotes from those State Department investigators.

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Of course. And nobody will face any repercussions for this.

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Also, why have no American papers reported this? Why do we need the foreign media to do our jobs for us?

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Here's the complete original article:

https://archive.is/2023.06.10-172049/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-wuhan-lab-covid-pandemic-china-america-qhjwwwvm0

A lot of people should go to prison for this. Will they?

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Here's the complete original article:

https://archive.is/2023.06.10-172049/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-wuhan-lab-covid-pandemic-china-america-qhjwwwvm0

A lot of people should go to prison for this. Will they?

Of course not.  They won't even lose position, or retirement benefits.

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Powerline 6/12/2023


Posted on June 11, 2023 by John Hinderaker in Coronavirus
Case Closed: It Was a Lab Leak

The Sunday London Times, out today, has a long, long article about the origins of the covid-19 virus in the lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Until the far-off day when Chinese sources open up honestly, it will stand as definitive proof of not just the lab leak hypothesis, but the conclusion that covid-19 was a human creation. Its conclusions are unqualified:

    Scientists in Wuhan working alongside the Chinese military were combining the world’s most deadly coronaviruses to create a new mutant virus just as the pandemic began.

    Investigators who scrutinised top-secret intercepted communications and scientific research believe Chinese scientists were running a covert project of dangerous experiments, which caused a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and started the Covid-19 outbreak.

    The US investigators say one of the reasons there is no published information on the work is because it was done in collaboration with researchers from the Chinese military, which was funding it and which, they say, was pursuing bioweapons.

The wealth of detail in this piece is remarkable. It lays out the relationships among the National Institutes of Health, American researchers, the Chinese military, and the Wuhan institute. An excerpt:

    The facility, which had started hunting the origins of the Sars virus in 2003, attracted US government funding through a New York-based charity whose president was a British-born and educated zoologist. America’s leading coronavirus scientist shared cutting-edge virus manipulation techniques.

    The institute was engaged in increasingly risky experiments on coronaviruses it gathered from bat caves in southern China. Initially, it made its findings public and argued the associated risks were justified because the work might help science develop vaccines.

    This changed in 2016 after researchers discovered a new type of coronavirus in a mineshaft in Mojiang in Yunnan province where people had died from symptoms similar to Sars.

    Rather than warning the world, the Chinese authorities did not report the fatalities. The viruses found there are now recognised as the only members of Covid-19’s immediate family known to have been in existence pre-pandemic.

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/06/case-closed-it-was-a-lab-leak.php

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The Sunday Times isn't a tabloid -- it's usually taken very seriously.  For me, this is pretty close to "case closed" that the Chinese developed this deliberately.

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The Sunday Times isn't a tabloid -- it's usually taken very seriously.  For me, this is pretty close to "case closed" that the Chinese developed this deliberately.

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Of course they developed it deliberately. It's called "population control",and nobody needs this more than the Chinese.

Which,of course,does NOT mean that the elitist globalists wouldn't want to use it at some point to make the world a better place for them to live due to lowered population,lowered income tax because there won't be so many  needy needing tax money,less air pollution,etc,etc,etc.

They will,of course,want to leave enough peasants standing to provide a proper wait staff as well as gardeners,mechanics,etc,etc,etc.

Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

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If true, an act of war.

It was obviously true years ago. Our government is totally corrupt.

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COVID: summary of lab-origin hypothesis, posted last year on Twitter by Richard Ebright, professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers U.

https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1567569810745356289
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After years of official claims to the contrary, strong new evidence suggests the virus known as SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a Chinese lab. According to multiple sources, the researchers who led gain-of-function research, which increases infectiousness, were the first to be infected.
Twitter thread from Michael Shellenberger:

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Biological weapons are too indiscriminate to be of long-term value.  Plus, there is always the probability that the biological agent will evolve in the wild to nullify the efficacy of existing vaccines.

The Chi-coms' flooding America with Fentanyl is a much better strategy for weakening its enemy, America.

If you secretly vaccinate your people and then release the weapon it could be very affective.

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After years of official claims to the contrary, strong new evidence suggests the virus known as SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a Chinese lab. According to multiple sources, the researchers who led gain-of-function research, which increases infectiousness, were the first to be infected.
Twitter thread from Michael Shellenberger:
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First People Sickened By COVID-19 Were Chinese Scientists At Wuhan Institute Of Virology, Say US Government Sources

https://public.substack.com/p/first-people-sickened-by-covid-19

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After years of official pronouncements to the contrary, significant new evidence has emerged that strengthens the case that the SARS-CoV-2 virus accidentally escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, “patients zero,” included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s “gain-of-function” research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses.
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Now, answers increasingly look within reach. Sources within the US government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus.

As such, not only do we know there were WIV scientists who had developed COVID-19-like illnesses in November 2019, but also that they were working with the closest relatives of SARS-CoV-2, and inserting gain-of-function features unique to it.
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The WIV research with live SARS-like viruses was performed at too low of a safety level, “BSL-2,” explains Chan, “When we now know that the pandemic virus is even capable of escaping from a BSL-3 lab and infecting fully vaccinated young lab workers.”

To be blunt, this "only" bolsters and adds details to what the Trump Administration announced publicly in summer or fall 2020 ... which the MSM minimized and mocked.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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First People Sickened By COVID-19 Were Chinese Scientists At Wuhan Institute Of Virology, Say US Government Sources

https://public.substack.com/p/first-people-sickened-by-covid-19

To be blunt, this "only" bolsters and adds details to what the Trump Administration announced publicly in summer or fall 2020 ... which the MSM minimized and mocked.


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If true, an act of war.
Developed?
Maybe.

Released?
For sure.

Invented in Chapel Hill, North Carolina in 2014.

Published in Nature 9 November, 2015.

Two of the team were from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985.pdf (downloadable)
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 Web page that gives information on authors (click on author's name to find out affiliation)


This is a deflection of blame for funding the research that invented the damned bug.

Note the article includes the following disclaimer:
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30 March 2020 Editors’ note, March 2020: We are aware that this article is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.

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Developed?
Maybe.

Released?
For sure.

Invented in Chapel Hill, North Carolina in 2014.

Published in Nature 9 November, 2015.

Two of the team were from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.



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Developed?
Maybe.

Released?
For sure.

Invented in Chapel Hill, North Carolina in 2014.

Published in Nature 9 November, 2015.

Two of the team were from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985.pdf (downloadable)
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 Web page that gives information on authors (click on author's name to find out affiliation)


This is a deflection of blame for funding the research that invented the damned bug.

Note the article includes the following disclaimer:
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Didn't age well at all.

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Documents Link Potential Covid Patient Zero to U.S.-Funded Research in Wuhan
New reporting, attributed to U.S. government sources, identified a coronavirus researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology who fell ill in November 2019.
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One of the first Wuhan researchers reportedly sickened with Covid in fall 2019, Ben Hu, was getting U.S. financial support for risky gain-of-function research on coronaviruses, according to documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request by the transparency advocacy organization White Coat Waste Project.

The funding came in three grants totaling $41 million, doled out by USAID and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, or NIAID, the agency then headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci. Hu is listed as an investigator on the grants.

The news that U.S. intelligence had learned that three Wuhan Institute of Virology lab workers had been hospitalized with Covid symptoms in November 2019, significantly before the outbreak at the city’s seafood market, was first reported by the Wall Street Journal in May 2021. But the revelation had curiously little impact on the broader debate over the origin of the pandemic, even as it would invalidate, if confirmed, the claim that the pandemic originated at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market when the virus allegedly jumped from an animal to a human. No such animal has been identified, but new reporting by Michael Shellenberger and Matt Taibbi, sourced to three government sources familiar with a State Department investigation, has identified the three lab workers as Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. Two of the grants ran from 2014 through 2019. The third was cut off in 2020 by President Donald Trump after the outbreak in Wuhan. ...

The Times of London, meanwhile, also recently reported new details about activity in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the run-up to the pandemic, similarly sourced to three investigators with the U.S. State Department. That report includes allegations about the Wuhan labs’ collaboration with Chinese military scientists, buttressing what had once been dismissed as a fringe conspiracy theory: that the virus was connected to bioweapons research. “In the lead-up to the pandemic, the Wuhan institute frequently experimented on coronaviruses alongside the Academy of Military Medical Sciences, a research arm of the People’s Liberation Army,” the Times reported. “In published papers, military scientists are listed as working for the Beijing Institute of Microbiology and Epidemiology, which is the military academy’s base.” ...
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Shellenberger's article is linked above in this post, https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,502509.msg2849554.html#msg2849554 . The revelation also dovetails with reports of cell phone activity in an area in the WVI going silent in October 2019, and a surge in vehicle traffic at Wuhan hospitals in fall of 2019.

Assuming no revolution overturning the current communist government of China, I doubt that China will ever open their books on WVI and the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The world is left with broad circumstantial evidence and a few narrow-scope leaks of personal experiences.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.