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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1475 on: September 05, 2023, 09:04:29 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 05, 2023, 08:16:20 pm
Agreed.  Given their relative inexpensiveness, they are probably a useful tool to use to keep the Orcs feeling the uncertainty, and hedging their defenses by putting more effort into home-country defense rather than offense in Ukraine.  I believe that Sun Tzu had something to say about that in his Art of War.

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No kidding.

NOTHING demoralizes an enemy nation more than strikes inside their homeland that they are powerless to stop.

Makes it hard for the brass to convince the population AND the politicians that "We are winning!"
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« Reply #1476 on: September 05, 2023, 10:01:32 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on September 05, 2023, 09:04:29 pm
@Kamaji

No kidding.

NOTHING demoralizes an enemy nation more than strikes inside their homeland that they are powerless to stop.

Makes it hard for the brass to convince the population AND the politicians that "We are winning!"

... as exemplified by the Doolittle Raid: demonstrated that the Japanese home islands were vulnerable to American attack.  It was the Doolittle Raid that was a precipitating event that pushed Japan towards the Battle of Midway - yet, another failed Japanese "final battle" to destroy all the American aircraft carriers in the Pacific.

The Japanese strategy was to engage in great, decisive strategic battles while the Americans fought to live another day.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1477 on: September 06, 2023, 04:13:06 am »
Fire at Russian petrochemical plant in Dzerzhinsk.


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1478 on: September 06, 2023, 04:16:14 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1479 on: September 06, 2023, 11:43:35 am »
New video shows moment Ukrainian troops blast Russian helicopter out of the sky - as nearly 50 of Putin's elite soldiers are killed in one day in latest battlefield coup for Kyiv

A laser-guided air-defence system gunned down helicopter near Robotyne

By WILL STEWART and JAMES CALLERY
6 September 2023

New footage has emerged of the moment Ukrainian troops blasted a Russian helicopter out of the sky while shouting 'Got him!'.

A laser-guided Swedish-supplied RBS-70 portable air-defence system gunned down the Ka-52 Alligator helicopter from a field near the village of Robotyne in the Zaporizhzhia region, which Ukraine claims to have liberated as its counter-offensive continues.

In footage of the attack on the helicopter, a fighter is heard shouting 'Shoot!', and seconds later after the trigger has been pressed on the shoulder-fired weapon under the shelter of some trees, a jubilant voice yells 'Got him!' followed by expletives.

Smoke can be seen pouring from the aircraft, which is hailed by the Kremlin as 'the world's best helicopter gunship', as a section seems to split from the fuselage before it curls into a nosedive and hits the ground. The video is a new angle on a downing last month in which astonishingly the pilot was reported to have escaped alive.

It emerged as a prominent US think-tank claimed that nearly 50 of Vladimir Putin's elite soldiers were killed in one day in another battlefield coup for Ukraine.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12485965/Moment-Ukrainian-troops-shout-got-blasting-Russian-helicopter-sky-nearly-50-Putins-elite-soldiers-killed-one-day.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1480 on: September 06, 2023, 01:22:42 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 06, 2023, 04:13:06 am
Fire at Russian petrochemical plant in Dzerzhinsk.
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That's some 220 miles east of Moscow, kind of a suburb of Nizhny Novgorod, which is on the west bank of the Volga River. It's pretty deep into European Russia, not close to Ukraine.
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« Reply #1481 on: September 06, 2023, 01:54:16 pm »
The single-seat parent of the Ka-52, the Ka-50, came into service around the same time as the US' two-seat AH-64A. The two-seat Ka-52 came into service around the same time as the US' AH-64D Longbow. Their capabilities ("eggs" load-out) are similar, but given Russian "quality", the US' attention to usability, and that some AH-64D upgrades reflect Gulf War experience, I'd prefer the AH-64E (the current rev). OTOH, I would not want to be on the "business end" of either.
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« Reply #1482 on: September 06, 2023, 04:21:13 pm »
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« Reply #1483 on: September 06, 2023, 05:01:58 pm »
100 meters is ~110 yards, not very far. It's possible that the drone fragments are from a drone blown up while flying in Ukrainian airspace.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1484 on: September 06, 2023, 06:10:32 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1485 on: September 06, 2023, 06:10:51 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on September 06, 2023, 05:01:58 pm
100 meters is ~110 yards, not very far. It's possible that the drone fragments are from a drone blown up while flying in Ukrainian airspace.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1486 on: September 06, 2023, 06:20:03 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on September 06, 2023, 05:01:58 pm
100 meters is ~110 yards, not very far. It's possible that the drone fragments are from a drone blown up while flying in Ukrainian airspace.
Agreed. Not exactly casus belli.  More like littering.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1487 on: September 06, 2023, 06:26:26 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on September 06, 2023, 05:01:58 pm
100 meters is ~110 yards, not very far. It's possible that the drone fragments are from a drone blown up while flying in Ukrainian airspace.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1488 on: September 07, 2023, 02:26:53 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1489 on: September 07, 2023, 02:29:51 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1490 on: September 07, 2023, 02:33:49 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1491 on: September 07, 2023, 02:40:32 am »
New school curricula for Russian students:

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1492 on: September 07, 2023, 12:03:18 pm »
Huge drone explosion erupts near Russian regional war command HQ that has been visited by Putin

Shocking footage shows a giant fireball rising up over the city of Rostov

By WILL STEWART
7 September 2023

A huge kamikaze drone explosion hit close to Vladimir Putin's war command headquarters in Rostov-on-Don in the early hours of the morning.

Shocking footage shows a giant fireball rising up over the city, which lies near Russian-occupied Ukraine.

The explosion whipped up a savage blaze in the vicinity of the military HQ, which Putin is reported to have visited several times throughout the war.

Three buildings and several cars were damaged according to an initial assessment by Rostov region governor Vasily Golubev.

The war command bunker is at the HQ of Russia's Southern Military District in Rostov-on-Don.

It was here in June that slain Wagner warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin began his attempted coup against Putin's regime, later staging a march towards Moscow.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12490603/Huge-drone-explosion-erupts-near-Russian-regional-war-command-HQ-visited-Putin.html
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« Reply #1493 on: September 07, 2023, 04:31:53 pm »
MY best guess is Pooty-Poot won't be visiting that area again anytime soon.

Or his mansion outside of Moscow.

Or anywhere else the public knows about.

Maximum Leaders ain't big on risking their OWN asses. They already  have enough to worry  about from their own people wanting to whack them.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1494 on: September 07, 2023, 06:38:55 pm »
Ukraine war: US to arm Kyiv with depleted uranium tank shells

The US has announced it will send controversial weapons to Ukraine as part of more than $1bn (£800m) in military and humanitarian aid.

Russia condemned the move to equip US Abrams tanks with shells strong enough to pierce conventional tank armour.

They are made of depleted uranium - a by-product of uranium enrichment stripped of most radioactive material.

Overnight, suspected Ukrainian drone attacks were reported on the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don and near Moscow.

Unconfirmed video showed what appeared to be a blast in central Rostov where, according to Governor Vasily Golubev, one person was lightly injured and several cars were damaged.

Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin said a drone that targeted the town of Ramenskoye had also been shot down and no damage reported.

The announcement of a new security package for Ukraine came during top US diplomat Antony Blinken's visit to Kyiv, prompting an angry Russian response.

The 120mm uranium tank rounds - included in $175m of US military equipment for Ukraine - are for M1 Abrams tanks due to be delivered to Ukraine later this year.

The rounds are made of depleted uranium, a waste product from the process of enriching naturally occurring uranium for nuclear fuel or weapons. It cannot generate a nuclear reaction and is considered "considerably less radioactive than natural uranium", according to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Depleted uranium can be used to reinforce armour-plating on tanks but is favoured for weapons because of its extreme density and ability to pierce conventional tank armour.

These types of shells sharpen on impact, which further increases their ability to bore through armour, and they ignite after contact.

Russia also reacted angrily when the UK announced in March it was sending depleted uranium shells to Ukraine for its Challenger 2 tanks.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1495 on: September 07, 2023, 06:42:33 pm »
Depleted Uranium is just that, depleted. It is still radioactive enough to feel warm, or at least the A-10 round I handled (Long ago, Eglin AFB) did.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1496 on: September 07, 2023, 07:15:39 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 07, 2023, 06:42:33 pm
Depleted Uranium is just that, depleted. It is still radioactive enough to feel warm, or at least the A-10 round I handled (Long ago, Eglin AFB) did.

Depleted uranium is generally not significantly radioactive.  It's about 40% less radioactive than naturally occurring uranium.
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« Reply #1497 on: September 08, 2023, 01:07:11 am »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 07, 2023, 07:15:39 pm
Depleted uranium is generally not significantly radioactive.  It's about 40% less radioactive than naturally occurring uranium.

U238 has a half-life of 4 billion years.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1498 on: September 08, 2023, 01:08:31 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on September 08, 2023, 01:07:11 am
U238 has a half-life of 4 billion years.

Meaning that it’s not highly radioactive.
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« Reply #1499 on: September 08, 2023, 01:10:58 am »
Meaning that relatively speaking, it isn't radioactive at all.
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