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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #825 on: July 05, 2023, 10:31:42 am »
Huge fireball erupts as Russian ammo depot is destroyed and Ukraine reports 'particularly fruitful' few days in its counteroffensive...but Zelensky warns Putin's men have MINED nuclear power plant

Ukraine is continuing to make advances in the south and around Bakhmut
But fears are rising of a Russian attack on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station

By CHRIS JEWERS
5 July 2023

A huge fireball erupted in occupied Ukraine last night as a Russian ammunition depot was destroyed in a 'monstrous explosion', dramatic footage has shown.

Video of the depot's destruction came after Kyiv said its counteroffensive against Vladimir Putin's forces has been 'particularly fruitful' in recent days, and as other clips from the frontlines emerged showing brutal trench combat.

A senior security official said the country's troops are fulfilling their main tasks as they continue to fight against Moscow's forces that have dug in across hundreds of miles of Ukrainian territory in the south and east.

The comments by Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council, were Kyiv's latest positive assessment of the month-old counterattack - although Russia has not acknowledged Ukraine's gains.

Kyiv has admitted that its progress has been slowed by Russian defences, with Putin's forces laying mines across swathes of land in order to prevent Kyiv's tanks from making the same rapid advances that were seen this time last year.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12265609/Huge-fireball-erupts-Russian-ammo-depot-destroyed-Ukraine-continues-counteroffensive.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #826 on: July 06, 2023, 01:15:30 pm »
How many girls they need to rape and kill before justice is server?
When 12 year old girls are abducted and raped to death, then dumped, that is an exact replay of Nazi Germany 1930s/1940s. The Russians claim to be fighting 'NAZIs', but they are the ones acting like them.
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« Reply #827 on: July 06, 2023, 03:58:46 pm »
Huge fireball erupts as Russian ammo depot is destroyed and Ukraine reports 'particularly fruitful' few days in its counteroffensive...but Zelensky warns Putin's men have MINED nuclear power plant

Ukraine is continuing to make advances in the south and around Bakhmut
But fears are rising of a Russian attack on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station

By CHRIS JEWERS
5 July 2023

A huge fireball erupted in occupied Ukraine last night as a Russian ammunition depot was destroyed in a 'monstrous explosion', dramatic footage has shown.

Video of the depot's destruction came after Kyiv said its counteroffensive against Vladimir Putin's forces has been 'particularly fruitful' in recent days, and as other clips from the frontlines emerged showing brutal trench combat.

A senior security official said the country's troops are fulfilling their main tasks as they continue to fight against Moscow's forces that have dug in across hundreds of miles of Ukrainian territory in the south and east.

The comments by Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council, were Kyiv's latest positive assessment of the month-old counterattack - although Russia has not acknowledged Ukraine's gains.

Kyiv has admitted that its progress has been slowed by Russian defences, with Putin's forces laying mines across swathes of land in order to prevent Kyiv's tanks from making the same rapid advances that were seen this time last year.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12265609/Huge-fireball-erupts-Russian-ammo-depot-destroyed-Ukraine-continues-counteroffensive.html?ico=topics_pagination_desktop


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« Reply #828 on: July 06, 2023, 04:09:28 pm »
The orcs claim Ukraine has mined the nuclear plant, but since the orcs occupy it, that claim is less than dubious.
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« Reply #829 on: July 06, 2023, 06:04:51 pm »
The orcs claim Ukraine has mined the nuclear plant, but since the orcs occupy it, that claim is less than dubious.


I'm sure a lot of people on the TOS would believe it.
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« Reply #830 on: July 06, 2023, 06:20:59 pm »

I hope to god this isn't true.

It was a Russian ammo dump.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #831 on: July 06, 2023, 06:53:52 pm »
Ukraine now has MORE tanks than Russia thanks to allies boosting their numbers while thousands of Putin's vehicles have been destroyed, data suggests

Russia now has around 1,400 tanks while Ukraine has 1,500, latest data suggests
Moscow started the war with more than 3,000 but has suffered heavy losses

By CHRIS JEWERS
6 July 2023

Ukraine now has more tanks available than Russia in a dramatic reversal of battlefield advantage, according to the latest data.

Kyiv have received deliveries of hundreds of heavy weapons from its western allies in recent months. Meanwhile, Moscow has seen thousands of its tanks destroyed or captured by Ukraine since Vladimir Putin launched his invasion 16 months ago.

As a result, an analysis of the latest data on losses and gains by Bloomberg suggests that Ukraine now has more tanks at its disposal than Russia does.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12271625/Ukraine-tanks-Russia-data-suggests.html

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #832 on: July 06, 2023, 08:42:53 pm »
Ukraine slows counteroffensive to ‘gradually wear down’ Russian troops, liberate towns

By Snejana Farberov
July 6, 2023

Ukraine’s forces appear to be pivoting toward a strategy of “slow and steady wins the race” in their counteroffensive — opting to conserve manpower at the expense of slower territorial gains, according to analysts.

Kyiv’s troops have been focusing on “gradually wearing down Russian manpower and equipment,” according to the latest assessment of the situation on the front lines from a Washington-based think tank The Institute for the Study of War.

But the analysts noted that “the current pace of Ukrainian operations is not indicative of a stalemate or evidence that Ukraine cannot retake large areas.”

The assessment echoes recent comments made by President Volodymyr Zelensky, who stressed that Ukraine’s goal is to liberate all the occupied territories while preserving as many lives as possible — even if that means that the progress would be slower than desired.

“We cannot throw people [into battle]. We do not treat them as a commodity, the way Russia treats their people,” Zelensky told Spanish reporters last week. “Our people are our treasure. That is why we are being careful.”

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/ukraine-slows-down-counteroffensive-to-preserve-troops/

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #833 on: July 06, 2023, 11:56:23 pm »
Report: Joe Biden to Supply Ukraine with Controversial Cluster Bombs
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President Joe Biden is expected to supply Ukraine with cluster bombs, which much of the world has vowed not to use due to their long-term effects on civilians.

A senior Biden administration official told the New York Times that the United States will provide Ukraine with cluster munitions after Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky pushed for America to provide the country with the controversial and widely-banned weapon.

Cluster munitions are a category of rockets, bombs, missiles, and artillery projectiles that break apart in the air and blanket a large area. The munitions often fail and can devastate civilians.

Humanitarian groups state that a fifth or more of the munitions can linger and harm civilians years after the conflict. More than 100 countries have signed the Convention of Cluster Munitions, promising not to use them. However, Russia, the United States, and Ukraine have not signed the treaty.

Ukraine has claimed that cluster munitions would help its counteroffensive against Russia.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #834 on: July 07, 2023, 01:26:37 am »
Former US officials met privately with Russia for Ukraine peace talks: report

By Caitlin Doornbos   
July 6, 2023

WASHINGTON – Three former US national security officials met privately with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in New York earlier this year, hoping to lay the groundwork for possible negotiations to end Moscow’s war on Ukraine.

The April talk – which was intended to be kept confidential, but was reported by NBC News Thursday – revolved around potential off-ramps for the conflict.

Topics reportedly included the fate of Russian-held Ukrainian territory that Kyiv may not be able to liberate in its current counteroffensive.

The officials, who spoke to Lavrov with the Biden administration’s knowledge but not at its direction, held the meeting to keep communications open with the Kremlin and search for opportunities for future compromise that could be used in negotiations, according to NBC — which cited four former and two current US officials in its report.

The discussion, which lasted for several hours, occurred while Lavrov was in the US for a meeting of the United Nations Security Council.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/former-us-officials-met-privately-with-russia-for-ukraine-peace-talks-report/

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« Reply #835 on: July 07, 2023, 11:25:43 am »
Here's the original story.  Sounds like a bunch former State Department hacks engaged in some wishcasting.

Former U.S. officials have held secret Ukraine talks with prominent Russia

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/former-us-officials-secret-ukraine-talks-russians-war-ukraine-rcna92610
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #836 on: July 07, 2023, 12:16:24 pm »
Ukraine gained advantage in war against Putin with custom-built AI: 'unprecedented testing ground'

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-gained-advantage-war-putin-custom-built-ai-unprecedented-testing-ground

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Ukraine has developed and implemented its own artificial intelligence (AI) platforms under the most stringent conditions to create something beyond what Western militaries have considered possible.

"The Ukrainians are doing a ton of stuff," Brett Velicovich, a Fox News contributor embedded in Ukraine, told Fox News Digital. "I mean, this innovation on the battlefield is out of this world right now. And, honestly, the U.S. government, Western governments, have no idea the innovation that's taking place.

"They can't keep up with it," he added. "The Ukrainians are moving too fast."

AI has quietly played a significant role in how Ukraine has managed to perform so well against a larger and seemingly stronger opponent in Russia, providing the smaller nation a wide range of advantages it might not otherwise have.

National Defense magazine called the Ukraine war an "unprecedented testing ground for AI," with the "now-ubiquitous employment of drones and loitering munitions by both sides" and "AI-enhanced autonomous capabilities in flight, targeting and firing."

George Dubynskiy, deputy minister of digital transformation in Ukraine, told Fox News Digital part of the key is the fact the country decided to create its own AI platform, which allowed engineers to tailor it to a spec.

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Not surprising considering that some of the world's top video game and software programmers are located in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #837 on: July 07, 2023, 02:12:21 pm »
 White House weighs Ukraine powerful ‘war crime’ cluster munitions in stunning reversal
By Caitlin Doornbos   
July 6, 2023 8:27pm

WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is expected to announce it will send Ukraine cluster munitions for its ongoing counteroffensive against Russia — a brutal weapon that the White House only last year declared could constitute a “war crime” if used.

The US for the first time is mulling sending Ukraine dual-purpose improved conventional munitions, chief Pentagon spokesman Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said Thursday, without confirming reports that the decision has already been made.

The powerful artillery shells release dozens of smaller explosive submunitions, increasing lethality as they spread to hit multiple targets, similar to how multiple pellets spread from a single shotgun shell.

The move would reverse prior Biden administration concerns about sending such systems, dubbed “cluster munitions,” over the nearly year-and-a-half-long war.

In February 2022, just days into the bloody invasion, former White House press secretary Jen Psaki said that using the weapons, known to kill and maim civilians, was a potential war crime.

“We have seen the reports. If that were true, it would potentially be a war crime,” Psaki responded to questions about reports that Russia was deploying the munitions in Ukraine.

While using cluster munitions in conflict on enemy fighters is allowed under the laws of war, deploying them on the general population is a war crime.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #838 on: July 07, 2023, 02:40:17 pm »
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While using cluster munitions in conflict on enemy fighters is allowed under the laws of war, deploying them on the general population is a war crime.
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Unlike Russia, Ukraine uses its munitions against military targets, at the front and against logistics. Russia launches missiles at and uses drones against random civilians in major Ukrainian cities. Ukraine knows to use its limited military assets with some degree of care.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #839 on: July 07, 2023, 02:50:35 pm »
Former U.S. officials have held secret Ukraine talks with prominent Russia

In other news, U.K. officials held secret Czechoslovakia talks with prominent Germany.
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« Reply #840 on: July 07, 2023, 03:30:54 pm »
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C'mon, man, don't Neville Chamberlain the Ukranians.

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« Reply #841 on: July 07, 2023, 09:09:36 pm »
Report: Joe Biden to Supply Ukraine with Controversial Cluster Bombs
Sean Moran


President Joe Biden is expected to supply Ukraine with cluster bombs, which much of the world has vowed not to use due to their long-term effects on civilians.

A senior Biden administration official told the New York Times that the United States will provide Ukraine with cluster munitions after Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky pushed for America to provide the country with the controversial and widely-banned weapon.

Cluster munitions are a category of rockets, bombs, missiles, and artillery projectiles that break apart in the air and blanket a large area. The munitions often fail and can devastate civilians.

Humanitarian groups state that a fifth or more of the munitions can linger and harm civilians years after the conflict. More than 100 countries have signed the Convention of Cluster Munitions, promising not to use them. However, Russia, the United States, and Ukraine have not signed the treaty.

Ukraine has claimed that cluster munitions would help its counteroffensive against Russia.

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So ... Brandon is doing exactly what Z wants him to do.  No treaty was signed between Russia and Ukraine, not the U.S., but that doesn't mean it is the right thing to do!   **nononono*
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #842 on: July 07, 2023, 09:18:53 pm »
White House weighs Ukraine powerful ‘war crime’ cluster munitions in stunning reversal
By Caitlin Doornbos   
July 6, 2023 8:27pm

The powerful artillery shells release dozens of smaller explosive submunitions, increasing lethality as they spread to hit multiple targets, similar to how multiple pellets spread from a single shotgun shell.

 


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They also come  in bombs,called "cluster bombs" by the US Military. Not all are explosive on impact. Some of the  "bomblets" (a cluster bomb is  a  shell that is filled with  small bomblets maybe the size of a baseball or a softball,and they roll a certain distance before they explode). Some even lay around and wait for a certain amoun of body head by a human or big animal to activate them,and they explode when they sense the heat source moving away.

BIG TIME anti-personnel bombs that are designed to break up  massed enemy attacks.
Some come loaded with CS gas.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #843 on: July 07, 2023, 09:26:46 pm »
So ... Brandon is doing exactly what Z wants him to do.  No treaty was signed between Russia and Ukraine, not the U.S., but that doesn't mean it is the right thing to do!   **nononono*

Huh?  The U.S. is willing to provide Ukraine with munitions they've requested - which the Russian nazis are already using - so that Ukraine can defend itself from the orcs.  What is the problem with that?  It is precisely the right thing to do.  Just because it is Biden doing it does not ipso facto make it the wrong thing to do.

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« Reply #844 on: July 07, 2023, 10:07:26 pm »
Huh?  The U.S. is willing to provide Ukraine with munitions they've requested - which the Russian nazis are already using - so that Ukraine can defend itself from the orcs.  What is the problem with that?  It is precisely the right thing to do.  Just because it is Biden doing it does not ipso facto make it the wrong thing to do.

No, not because it's Brandon doing it,  *****rollingeyes*****  It's wrong because most of the world has vowed not to use them for a reason.

Anything Z wants, Z gets from the U.S.  I think he's good at using propaganda. Who knows if Z is telling the truth about Russia.

Again, it is their war.  Not ours.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #845 on: July 07, 2023, 11:12:36 pm »
No, not because it's Brandon doing it,  *****rollingeyes*****  It's wrong because most of the world has vowed not to use them for a reason.

Anything Z wants, Z gets from the U.S.  I think he's good at using propaganda. Who knows if Z is telling the truth about Russia.

Again, it is their war.  Not ours.

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I remember reading about people like you who claimed WW-1 AND WW-2 were "not our wars".

Name some wars that "WERE" "OUR Wars",

BTW,last time I checked,which was earlier today,the US was NOT involved in the fighting in Ukraine.


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« Reply #846 on: July 07, 2023, 11:47:47 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #847 on: July 07, 2023, 11:50:35 pm »
@libertybele

I remember reading about people like you who claimed WW-1 AND WW-2 were "not our wars".

Name some wars that "WERE" "OUR Wars",or admit  to being a  Surrender Monkey.

BTW,last time I checked,which was earlier today,the US was NOT involved in the fighting in Ukraine.

Gee @sneakypete I wasn't around for WWI nor WWII and I'd like not to experience WWIII as I don't see this World surviving.

BTW I never stated that the U.S. was involved in the fighting in Ukraine; but providing them with billions in aid and munitions needs to stop and yes, I'll repeat it again -- this is their war.  A war that has been on going for decades.  Continuing to feed this very expensive monster that is crippling us is just plain wrong.

The fall of Russia ... hmm...  I wonder who is going to swoop in and benefit from all their natural resources and land?
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« Reply #848 on: July 07, 2023, 11:51:57 pm »
Hey everybody, welcome @MeganC over from TOS!  She got zinged by JR yesterday on behalf of that self-righteous, holier-than-thou hypocrite Allegra.

Welcome to The Briefing Room @MeganC   I think you will enjoy this forum.  happy77
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #849 on: July 08, 2023, 12:05:18 am »
Gee @sneakypete I wasn't around for WWI nor WWII and I'd like not to experience WWIII as I don't see this World surviving.

BTW I never stated that the U.S. was involved in the fighting in Ukraine; but providing them with billions in aid and munitions needs to stop and yes, I'll repeat it again -- this is their war. A war that has been on going for decades.  Continuing to feed this very expensive monster that is crippling us is just plain wrong.

The fall of Russia ... hmm...  I wonder who is going to swoop in and benefit from all their natural resources and land?

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We actually have a very good chance of destroying the Communist control over Russia,thus eliminating our most dangerous potential enemy without losing a single US soldier in combat,and you want to whine about it.

You didn't edit enough...stop the name-calling
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