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Trump Announces Plan to End Homelessness. The Left Will Hate It.
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Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday released his plan to address homelessness in the U.S., which he says has contributed to the decline of America’s once-great cities.

“The homeless have no right to turn every park and sidewalk into a place for them to squat and do drugs,” he said in a video statement. “Americans should not have to step over piles of needles and waste as they walk down a street in a beautiful city -- at least, a once-beautiful city. Because they've changed so much over the last ten years.”

The 45th president argued that the majority should not have to “suffer” in these areas because of a “deeply unwell few.” If reelected, Trump said he will get the homeless off the streets and given access to the help they need.

“There is nothing compassionate about letting these individuals live in filth and squalor,” Trump argued.

“For a small fraction of what we spend upon Ukraine, we could take care of every homeless veteran in America,” he pointed out. “Our veterans are being treated horribly. Likewise, with all of the money we will save by ending mass unskilled migration, we will have a huge dividend to address this crisis in our own country.”

Urban camping will be banned and those who violate the bans will be arrested, he said, clarifying that the individuals will be given an option to get treatment if they are willing to be rehabilitated.

As for where they will be taken, Trump said “large parcels of inexpensive land” will be opened where a range of medical professionals, social workers, and drug rehab specialists will care for the homeless to address their problems.

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2023, 02:47:50 pm »
He does not have this authority.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2023, 02:56:40 pm »
Concentration camps?

As for where they will be taken, Trump said “large parcels of inexpensive land” will be opened where a range of medical professionals, social workers, and drug rehab specialists will care for the homeless to address their problems.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2023, 03:10:58 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2023, 03:11:28 pm »
Concentration camps?

As for where they will be taken, Trump said “large parcels of inexpensive land” will be opened where a range of medical professionals, social workers, and drug rehab specialists will care for the homeless to address their problems.

That is too last century. They would be Freedom Cities.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2023, 03:14:19 pm »
Concentration camps?

As for where they will be taken, Trump said “large parcels of inexpensive land” will be opened where a range of medical professionals, social workers, and drug rehab specialists will care for the homeless to address their problems.
And where will these large inexpensive tracts of land be found? Certainly not in California, unless they are talking the desert. What if people don't want to go to these special care centers, will they be taken any way?

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2023, 03:21:53 pm »
Didn't click on the link, but nowhere does it say it's mandatory for the 'homeless' to go to the [fill-in-the-blank] Housing-Treatment Centers.

Any of you see it?  Did I miss it?   :tongue2:
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2023, 03:43:26 pm »
Didn't click on the link, but nowhere does it say it's mandatory for the 'homeless' to go to the [fill-in-the-blank] Housing-Treatment Centers.

Any of you see it?  Did I miss it?   :tongue2:

Ah, but if you are homeless they will find a place for you??? Who is going to stop them?
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2023, 03:43:47 pm »
That is too last century. They would be Freedom Cities.

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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2023, 03:48:50 pm »
He does not have this authority.

Exactly, and this illustrates his complete lack of understanding of the American constitutional system.  For all his supporters who supposedly worship the Constitution, please find me the provision in it that permits the federal government to dictate to state or local authorities whether or not they may permit homeless people to be on property owned by a state or local government.

I also like the incredible naivete of the migration aspect of this. As if a bunch of urban stoners and addicts are going to voluntarily remove themselves and remain in Trump's federal encampments somewhere out in the boonies.

Il Duce di Nuovo York has some really screwy ideas.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2023, 03:48:57 pm »
Here's what President Trump said:

Homelessness Plan: "President Trump Releases Plan to End the Nightmare of the Homeless, Drug Addicts, and Dangerously Deranged on American Streets" (Video)


https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1648352028853252102

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2023, 03:54:58 pm »
Exactly, and this illustrates his complete lack of understanding of the American constitutional system.  For all his supporters who supposedly worship the Constitution, please find me the provision in it that permits the federal government to dictate to state or local authorities whether or not they may permit homeless people to be on property owned by a state or local government.

"Working with the states" - I guess you missed this part.  Please show me the provision in the constitution that precludes this.

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2023, 03:55:49 pm »
I saw one of the comments to his tweet that was dead on:

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"Sounds like an octogenarian progressive promoting big government. The feds shouldn't overstep into local issues and if you want a federal government that manages big cities, then I am sure you'll find happiness elsewhere."

What I can't quite figure out is if his supporters support this because they don't really understand what he's proposing, don't understand either the situation or the law, or they do understand it but support it anyway simply because it is Trump who is proposing it.


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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2023, 03:55:55 pm »
Here's what President Trump said:

Homelessness Plan: "President Trump Releases Plan to End the Nightmare of the Homeless, Drug Addicts, and Dangerously Deranged on American Streets" (Video)


https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1648352028853252102

Wow!  Not everyone who is homeless has mental issues or is dangerous.  We have many displaced people after the hurricane around here and also, there are those that lost jobs during COVID that became homeless. 

So, Trump is going to put them in 'institutions' where they belong! Nice. /s

Other than rounding them up and putting them in institutions (sounds very communistic to me) what's his plan?  Who's going to pay for all of this?  Who is determining who will be placed where

No.  Trump will NOT get my vote.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2023, 03:56:21 pm »
And where will these large inexpensive tracts of land be found? Certainly not in California, unless they are talking the desert. What if people don't want to go to these special care centers, will they be taken any way?

I don’t know about “inexpensive,” but buying up and using abandoned enclosed malls might provide a solution.

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2023, 04:05:27 pm »
I don’t know about “inexpensive,” but buying up and using abandoned enclosed malls might provide a solution.

Again, who is going to decide who is mentally ill; or is that just assumed because they are homeless? It is one thing to offer housing such as the mall situation that you pointed out, but the mentally ill would need medical and psychiatric treatment or does Trump just plan on incarcerating them to get them off the streets?

Ok, so we put hundreds of homeless people in a huge facility; would they be free to leave on their own accord?

Sorry, but this so far just sounds more like a prison for the homeless.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2023, 04:07:32 pm »
Il Duce di Nuovo York has some really screwy ideas.

What's screwy, although predictable, is you want only to preach, whine, and point fingers at the homeless epidemic in this nation. Thinking, doing and fixing are outside the realm of possible.

How would *you* end this:





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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2023, 04:17:22 pm »
Again, who is going to decide who is mentally ill; or is that just assumed because they are homeless? It is one thing to offer housing such as the mall situation that you pointed out, but the mentally ill would need medical and psychiatric treatment or does Trump just plan on incarcerating them to get them off the streets?

Ok, so we put hundreds of homeless people in a huge facility; would they be free to leave on their own accord?

Sorry, but this so far just sounds more like a prison for the homeless.
I seem to recall in a not to distant past where we had mental institutions, yes some of them were operated in criminal manner, where the mentally were cared for and their medication was assured. I also recall the ACLU and democrats teeming up to have those institutions shut down and the mentally ill dumped on the streets without care. Does anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex really thing the ACLU and the communists in the democrat party will allow the freedom of mentally ill to live in squalor unmedicated and in many cases dangerous to be infringed?

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2023, 04:19:48 pm »
And where will these large inexpensive tracts of land be found?

There are some undeveloped plots at Disney World. 

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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2023, 04:21:12 pm »
What's screwy, although predictable, is you want only to preach, whine, and point fingers at the homeless epidemic in this nation. Thinking, doing and fixing are outside the realm of possible.

How would *you* end this:


Well it may not be workable but I would eliminate democrat communists first and the rest would just naturally fall in line. You may think I'm being sarcastic but.....It's just as workable as Trump's plan as long as there is one democrat controlled state to thwart it, and there are a lot more than one.

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2023, 04:48:32 pm »
Well it may not be workable but I would eliminate democrat communists first and the rest would just naturally fall in line. You may think I'm being sarcastic but.....It's just as workable as Trump's plan as long as there is one democrat controlled state to thwart it, and there are a lot more than one.

Why so opposed to dealing with this?  No one, including Trump, claims it will be easy ----- but, this is no reason to retreat before a real debate begins.

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2023, 05:30:09 pm »
What's screwy, although predictable, is you want only to preach, whine, and point fingers at the homeless epidemic in this nation. Thinking, doing and fixing are outside the realm of possible.

How would *you* end this:



First, you will never - nor should you ever - try to end all homelessness.  As a very wise man once said, the poor will always be with us.  Guaranteeing there will be no homelessness at all requires a government promise of housing for everyone, including the able-bodied who deliberately choose not to work.

Second, out of all the theoretical solutions out there, Trump is picking the most big government one possible.

He's having the federal government dictate internal policies to cities, which he can't constitutionally do.  If the cities wish to let the homeless continue occupying their public spaces, there isn't a a damn thing the federal government can do about it. But Trump doesn't know about that, probably because he never cracked open a book about the federal government is entire lifetime.

Second, he is setting up massive, centrally controlled federal boondoggles on federal land that will be putting the taxpayer permanently on the hook for supporting a bunch of addicts and mentally ill people.

It's not only massive federal overreach, but naive in the extreme to think that the homeless are going to be shuffled willingly off to the boonies.  But even if they did, once they get there, they will of course trash, defecate in, and otherwise destroy the properties our tax dollars went to build. It is an abominably stupid idea.  But Trump goes with it because he just thinks he can do whatever he wants is President.  So he is showing himself to be both ignorant, and a fool.  Either that, or a sleazy used car salesman who knows that most of what he is telling the public is a lie. Pick your poison.

The problem is primarily one that has to be handled at the state and local level because they are the ones that have legal control over the property on which this is happening.  As long as the people in those areas continue electing government officials willing to tolerate this, there is not a damn thing that can be done about it.  So what a president could do is use the bully pulpit to point out what the state and local governments should be doing.   But persuading others and converting them to his point of view has never been Trump's forte.

However, the single most important thing the federal government could do to address this is a massive federal crackdown on drugs, because drug abuse, especially in conjunction with mental illness, is the single biggest cause of those people being on the streets in the first place in those encampments.

So you're talking a significant step up not only in street level enforcement by federal drug agents, but also a significant increase in penalties for drug dealing.  As in death penalty for large scale dealing, long prison sentences for other dealers, and prison sentences for a lot of users.

That is the one federal mechanism that can get those people actually off the streets so the streets can be cleaned up.

By the way, isn't Trump the guy who pardoned or commuted the sentences of a bunch of people in federal prison for drug offenses before he left office?
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2023, 05:38:07 pm »
Trump is, once again, displaying his essential lib/prog credentials.

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Trump thinks he's FDR.  The most Socialist POTUS in our history.
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