Trump's Praise for DeSantis' Democratic Opponent Rankles MAGA World

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I think I've finally figured this out.

Any Republican who criticizes Trump, even if just by quoting his own words back at him, is a RINO, a globalist tool of George Soros, and isn't deserving of support by GOP voters.  Either in the primary or otherwise.

But Trump going after other Republicans, even ones who aren't candidates, is just him playing smart, strategic politics.

Oh, and any large, wealthy donors who supported Trump in 2016 and 2020, but who now support somebody else, are also RINO's, and globalist tools of George Soros.

[corbe]

[berdie]

Actually, @berdie what the Trump campaign is doing is strategic --- it's rule number one whether it's inter political parties or intra political party:. Never allow the opposition to rewrite his or her hagiography unchallenged.  DeSantis has been busy rewriting (well, Ryan has been) his story.  Trump knows this and the details -----Trump is just laying the groundwork for what is to come.

Interesting spin. As far as I can tell, at this point, DeSantis is not the opposition. I don't know what rewrite of his story is being referred to. And if it is Ryan, maybe Trump should go after him instead of DeSantis. Instead of alienating a potential ally and a lot of voters. There is no laying the groundwork. Anybody who watched the 2016 primaries knows the game plan.

Besides, Trump himself, has bragged about boosting DeSantis so he could win. So did he once again pick the wrong guy? @Right_in_Virginia

[roamer_1]

Besides, Trump himself, has bragged about boosting DeSantis so he could win.

Riiiight... A weeping and begging DeSantis... 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Interesting spin. As far as I can tell, at this point, DeSantis is not the opposition. @Right_in_Virginia

It's not spin @berdie --- It's straight out of "Campaign Strategic Planning 101". And.yes, DeSantis is an opponent.  He is running for President and will formally make the announcement after the Florida Statehouse changes the law that requires the governor to resign his position to run for federal office.  This issue will be taken up in a special session scheduled for May.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Riiiight... A weeping and begging DeSantis... 

And Trump carried him across the finish line:


https://youtu.be/z1YP_zZJFXs

[berdie]

It's not spin @berdie --- It's straight out of "Campaign Strategic Planning 101". And.yes, DeSantis is an opponent.  He is running for President and will formally make the announcement after the Florida Statehouse changes the law that requires the governor to resign his position to run for federal office.  This issue will be taken up in a special session scheduled for May.

I realize that certain laws will have to be changed in Fla. But I also realize that DeSantis may choose to not run.

Since I have been following politics...I can't recall a declared candidate going after someone who might run. It makes Trump sound fearful of DeSantis. But maybe that's because he is.

[LMAO]

Riiiight... A weeping and begging DeSantis... 

I doubt anybody, but the most diehard Trump supporter, believes that. I believe that Ron DeSantis did ask Donald Trump for an endorsement. But weeping and begging? Come on.

What’s going to make it hard for Donald Trump to define any candidate is his credibility.

[Hoodat]

Trump has been all over the map with this.  Essentially, there is no standard that Trump or his supporters will follow.


Trump: I'm 'Totally Pledging' My Allegiance To The Republican Party

Jessica Taylor  |  September 3, 2015  |  12:24 PM ET


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds a signed pledge during a news conference in Trump Tower, Thursday, Sept. 3, 2015 in New York.
Mark Lennihan/AP

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/03/437198983/will-donald-trump-really-back-down-from-a-third-party-threat



But by the end of March 2016 when he was getting his ass handed to him by Ted Cruz, he suddenly didn't want to follow his pledge any more.  Then after cutting a deal with the GOP Establishment to block the Cruz threat, he suddenly had a change of heart and demanded Cruz et al honor the very same pledge he reneged on five months earlier.

Of course none of this has a thing to do with what McDaniel is asking.  She is simply asking for party unity.  And with only two candidates in the field so far and the first primary almost a year away, Trump supporters are already going scorched earth.

[LMAO]

I realize that certain laws will have to be changed in Fla. But I also realize that DeSantis may choose to not run.

Since I have been following politics...I can't recall a declared candidate going after someone who might run. It makes Trump sound fearful of DeSantis. But maybe that's because he is.

That’s because Ron DeSantis has Donald Trump in a panic. And I’m not sure if I really want the laws to be changed to accommodate Ron DeSantis, but I guess that’s up to the Florida legislators

Expect to see more claims of supplying alcohol to teenagers when he was 20, George Soros endorsement, etc

[roamer_1]

I doubt anybody, but the most diehard Trump supporter, believes that. I believe that Ron DeSantis did ask Donald Trump for an endorsement. But weeping and begging? Come on.


What’s going to make it hard for Donald Trump to define any candidate is his credibility.

That's right. Total bullcrap.

[Hoodat]

I doubt anybody, but the most diehard Trump supporter, believes that. I believe that Ron DeSantis did ask Donald Trump for an endorsement.

Without a Trump endorsement, DeSantis would have won by 30 points.

But weeping and begging? Come on.

Facts are irrelevant here.  The key is to spew out venom with made-up bullshit stories.

[Wingnut]

Any loyalty pledge Trump takes isn't worth the last Big Mac he burps up when he takes it.

[Hoodat]

That’s because Ron DeSantis has Donald Trump in a panic.

And Trump supporters as well.  We are 618 days away from the next Presidential election, and the Trump zealots have gone total war on the most successful Republican candidate of the 2022 election cycle.

[LMAO]

And Trump supporters as well.  We are 618 days away from the next Presidential election, and the Trump zealots have gone total war on the most successful Republican candidate of the 2022 election cycle.

Should Ron DeSantis decide to throw his hat in the ring, we will have plenty of time to hear his positions on things like spending, the border, crime, Social Security and Medicare, etc while talking around Trump’s flailing and wild claims

Donald Trump has already made it clear that he intends to do nothing about our unsustainable spending. He’s already adopting the Democrats position on so-called entitlements.

[roamer_1]

Should Ron DeSantis decide to throw his hat in the ring, we will have plenty of time to hear his positions on things like spending, the border, crime, Social Security and Medicare, etc while talking around Trump’s flailing and wild claims

Donald Trump has already made it clear that he intends to do nothing about our unsustainable spending. He’s already adopting the Democrats position on so-called entitlements.

Nah... It will all be about unfounded bimbo eruptions, character assassinations, and other such things for the prime time tongue waggers.

The whole Stone/Pecker routine all over again. That's how Tumpy rolls.

Been there, done that.

[Hoodat]

And Trump carried him across the finish line:

How many more times are you going to unload this ridiculous bullshit claim on this forum?  In 2018, the Dems picked up 41 House seats and 7 Governorships, yet you keep bullshitting us on how Trump carried DeSantis across the finish line while losing 7 other States and 41 House seats.  Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?  Seriously.  If Trump was such a pull at the ballot box, then why did he lose both houses of Congress and the White House?

[Idiot]

How many more times are you going to unload this ridiculous bullshit claim on this forum?  In 2018, the Dems picked up 41 House seats and 7 Governorships, yet you keep bullshitting us on how Trump carried DeSantis across the finish line while losing 7 other States and 41 House seats.  Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?  Seriously.  If Trump was such a pull at the ballot box, then why did he lose both houses of Congress and the White House?

[Right_in_Virginia]

I realize that certain laws will have to be changed in Fla. But I also realize that DeSantis may choose to not run.

Since I have been following politics...I can't recall a declared candidate going after someone who might run. It makes Trump sound fearful of DeSantis. But maybe that's because he is.

DeSantis is soliciting and accepting donations from globalist bigwigs.  Ronny is running @berdie  His benefactors do not open their wallets on a maybe.  They open their wallets to buy influence and they're buying it from the ground up.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/22/politics/ron-desantis-donors/index.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

How many more times are you going to unload this ridiculous bullshit claim on this forum?  In 2018, 

In 2018, Ron DeSantis was badly losing his campaign for the governor's mansion.  In the nick of time, Ronny swallowed his pride and begged Trump to help him win ----- which Trump did.  I say "nick of time" because even with Trump's help Ronny won over a crack head with a margin of 0.4%.

Gillum conceded on November 17. DeSantis's victory marked the sixth straight election in which Florida elected a Republican to the governorship, and the third in a row that the margin of victory was under two percent. With a margin of 0.4%, this election was the closest race of the 2018 gubernatorial election cycle.

[Hoodat]

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

It's not a lie ---- no matter how desperately you need it to be. 

[Hoodat]

I'm not the one here who is desperate.  DeSantis had a 12-pt lead over Putnam by the time Trump bothered to show up.  And on the Democrat side, Gillum trailed Philip Levine by 17 points.  So the better post hoc argument here is that Trump's rally helped Gillum win the Democrat Primary.

But you can fantasize all you want about how Trump is responsible for everything good that happens in this world and gets zero blame for all the things he screwed up.  I choose to rely on truth instead.

[Hoodat]

2018/2019 - GOP Governorships lost

Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Kansas, New Mexico, Nevada, Kentucky.


Hey, but Trump is the guy who pulls people over the finish line.  At least he can claim that about Mitch McConnell.

[Sighlass]

I’m not making any claims that Ron DeSantis is going to be our savior as I think what ails us is mostly beyond politics.

The meat of the discussion so far.... The look behind the curtain... I don't know if I will even be around in two years to vote, if still around all I can offer is a vote for someone that I won't be ashamed to admit voting for. But the truth of the matter is no matter who wins, unless hearts are changed, this is a doomed country.