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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1200 on: January 07, 2023, 04:28:40 am »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1201 on: January 07, 2023, 04:31:04 am »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 07, 2023, 04:26:57 am
Explain…how would that work?

Well, there's no constitutional requirement that says the house must choose its speaker by a majority. It simply says the house must choose the Speaker.

So you make a deal with the Democrats to make the speaker electable by a plurality rather than a majority.  It's been done before. The Democrats will agree to it because it gives them a shot at actually winning Speaker if Jefferies gets the plurality..  But it also puts the six in the position of either supporting McCarthy, or enabling Jeffries to be elected as Speaker.

It's basically moving the game of chicken to the final chapter, and finding out where the so-called conservatives really stand.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1202 on: January 07, 2023, 04:34:28 am »
  They seem to be revoting to have another vote and skip the adjournment after Gaetz and McCarthy has a brief talk on the way out.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1203 on: January 07, 2023, 04:34:36 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 07, 2023, 04:28:35 am
2) Rules changes that will make it much easier for Democrats to sabotage the GOP majority.

I don't have a problem with rules that sabotage the majority.  Gridlock means less money gets spent.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1204 on: January 07, 2023, 04:35:10 am »
Vote for recess fails.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1205 on: January 07, 2023, 04:35:16 am »
Vote to adjourn fails
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1206 on: January 07, 2023, 04:35:23 am »
This is, by far, the most fun hubby and I have had on a Friday night in a long time. Talk about theater!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1207 on: January 07, 2023, 04:35:25 am »
I should add that McCarthy has claimed that Gaetz said that he would let Jeffries win if it came down to a plurality vote, but Gaetz denied saying it.  So this would be a great way to find out who was lying. Plus, it would be entertaining as hell, which is pretty much all that can be salvaged out of this shitshow at this point.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1208 on: January 07, 2023, 04:36:24 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 04:34:36 am
I don't have a problem with rules that sabotage the majority.  Gridlock means less money gets spent.

Until you get a new working majority consisting of Democrats and the five or six most liberal Republicans who don't want to be held responsible for an unfunded government, and who are sick of the six.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1209 on: January 07, 2023, 04:36:55 am »
Gaetz don't overplay your hand...
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1210 on: January 07, 2023, 04:36:55 am »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1211 on: January 07, 2023, 04:37:02 am »
Quote from: corbe on January 07, 2023, 04:34:28 am
  They seem to be revoting to have another vote and skip the adjournment after Gaetz and McCarthy has a brief talk on the way out.

Maybe he offered Gaetz a hand job in the cloakroom.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1212 on: January 07, 2023, 04:37:37 am »
Definitely time to up the stakes.  Cancel all the concessions, vote for a plurality election, and put everyone on the hotseat.  Really peg the fun meter!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1213 on: January 07, 2023, 04:37:45 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 07, 2023, 04:36:24 am
Until you get a new working majority consisting of Democrats and the five or six most liberal Republicans who don't want to be held responsible for an unfunded government, and who are sick of the six.

That's what we have already.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1214 on: January 07, 2023, 04:39:30 am »
Quote from: debrawiest on January 07, 2023, 04:35:23 am
This is, by far, the most fun hubby and I have had on a Friday night in a long time. Talk about theater!

You betcha.  Beats watching reruns of "Murder She Wrote".
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1215 on: January 07, 2023, 04:41:07 am »
Republicans now trying to save face by switching their adjournment votes.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1216 on: January 07, 2023, 04:41:23 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 04:39:30 am
You betcha.  Beats watching reruns of "Murder She Wrote".

Friday night. We usually watch “Blue Bloods”.  happy77
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1217 on: January 07, 2023, 04:42:12 am »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on January 07, 2023, 04:36:55 am
Gaetz don't overplay your hand...

Ummm. We are WAYYYY past that now.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1218 on: January 07, 2023, 04:42:35 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 04:37:45 am
That's what we have already.

We don't even have a seated House yet.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1219 on: January 07, 2023, 04:43:24 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 04:37:02 am
Maybe he offered Gaetz a hand job in the cloakroom.
Or maybe he finally agreed to let Gaetz give him one.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1220 on: January 07, 2023, 04:43:40 am »
It's like deja vu all over again.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1221 on: January 07, 2023, 04:43:40 am »
Better keep it going.  Matt Gaetz with a weekend to himself:

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1222 on: January 07, 2023, 04:45:15 am »
Scuttlebutt is Gaetz will vote for McCarthy in round 15.  No one's putting money on it, quite yet.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1223 on: January 07, 2023, 04:45:50 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 07, 2023, 04:41:07 am
Republicans now trying to save face by switching their adjournment votes.

Oh hell no.  We need to wallow in this crap for another round just to further humiliate the Republican Party.  Because that apparently is what this is about.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #1224 on: January 07, 2023, 04:46:31 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 07, 2023, 04:45:15 am
Scuttlebutt is Gaetz will vote for McCarthy in round 15.  No one's putting money on it, quite yet.

They were buddy buddy at one point during the break. I’d say Gaetz will vote for him.
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