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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #800 on: January 06, 2023, 05:24:02 pm »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #801 on: January 06, 2023, 05:24:12 pm »
"Regarding the vote for Speaker: see how hard it is to rig an election when there's no drop-boxes and you verify the identity of everyone who's voting?"

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #802 on: January 06, 2023, 05:24:26 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 06, 2023, 05:15:12 pm
The Patriots then had a plan, moved rationally and with purpose toward achievable goals. Men like Washington and Adams were extremely calculating...took risks when necessary and FREQUENTLY made compromises to achieve consensus and advance their cause. They thought strategically and played the long game. They were not simpleminded obstructionists like the dolts we're dealing with now. They had a plan, knew where they wanted to go and who they wanted to lead the fight (Washington).

The men of that era are the diametric opposite of the 22 morons we're watching today. These men have no candidate for the speaker, have no purpose other than to obstruct, and are working only to aggrandize themselves and virtue signal. You defame our Founding Fathers in comparing them to these fools.

I didn't compare them or defame them, I brought up the concept of "principles", and your silly belittling of that trait.

If you can't improve your reading comprehension, I might has well put you on my "ignore" list.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #803 on: January 06, 2023, 05:28:58 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on January 06, 2023, 05:15:12 pm
The Patriots then had a plan, moved rationally and with purpose toward achievable goals.

No, they did not.  It took 440 day after Lexington & Concord for representatives from 13 colonies to declare independence from the crown.  A plan?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #804 on: January 06, 2023, 05:29:24 pm »
Matt Gaetz says McCarthy does not have the votes today, won't have them tomorrow, etc ...

Doesn't sound like the supposed "deal" went through?
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #805 on: January 06, 2023, 05:29:41 pm »
   Apparently, the deal McCarthy made with the Freedom Caucus is a no go. Gaetz just nominated Jim Jordan.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #806 on: January 06, 2023, 05:30:27 pm »
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GAETZ nominates Jim Jordan



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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #807 on: January 06, 2023, 05:30:50 pm »
Man...Gaetz is throwing bombs......
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« Reply #808 on: January 06, 2023, 05:31:23 pm »
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Breaking News. #MattGaetz  just announced Kevin McCarthy will never become speaker of the house because he will never obtain the necessary number of votes.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #809 on: January 06, 2023, 05:31:29 pm »
Quote from: corbe on January 06, 2023, 05:29:41 pm
   Apparently, the deal McCarthy made with the Freedom Caucus is a no go. Gaetz just nominated Jim Jordan.

Maybe McCarthy himself should take the floor and explain to the American people why he should be Speaker.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #810 on: January 06, 2023, 05:31:36 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 06, 2023, 04:58:00 pm
Without principles would 1775-1787 had even happened?

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #811 on: January 06, 2023, 05:31:48 pm »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #812 on: January 06, 2023, 05:32:42 pm »
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Can someone tell me why it's so horrifying and devastating for Congress to take a few days to debate and negotiate over who should be third in line to the presidency and rule the House?

Aren't debates of this kind called "democracy," as rare as it now is for Congress to do this?



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The $1.7b omnibus bill Congress just passed was 4,000 pages. Nobody who voted read it all. This is how it works: Leaders put together huge bills and order members to vote YES.

This is a fundamentally broken and anti-democratic system. Let's have a few days to shine light on it.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #813 on: January 06, 2023, 05:32:45 pm »
Holy cow, Gaetz is pulling no punches.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #814 on: January 06, 2023, 05:33:17 pm »
   Boebert just nominated Hern.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #815 on: January 06, 2023, 05:33:29 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on January 06, 2023, 05:29:24 pm
Matt Gaetz says McCarthy does not have the votes today, won't have them tomorrow, etc ...

Doesn't sound like the supposed "deal" went through?

Have a feeling that McCarthy keeps giving lip service but nothing concrete.

Might have to give him the weekend to think about it.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #816 on: January 06, 2023, 05:33:36 pm »
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« Reply #817 on: January 06, 2023, 05:34:38 pm »
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Matt Gaetz nominates Jim Jordan for speaker, calls McCarthy the 'Lebron James' of fundraising
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #818 on: January 06, 2023, 05:34:56 pm »
Congressman James again throws his support to a man who did nothing after Michigan Democrats stole his Senate seat away from him.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #819 on: January 06, 2023, 05:35:23 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 06, 2023, 05:28:58 pm
No, they did not.  It took 440 day after Lexington & Concord for representatives from 13 colonies to declare independence from the crown.  A plan?

After he started with "achievable" goals"...(sans 1775) I gave up wanting or trying to give him a history lesson.

We as nation obliquely need to thank George III for not having the fire in his belly to finish us off in the 1780's due to overextending of UK's military over-expansion. 

I guess he stopped learning after High School History Classes.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #820 on: January 06, 2023, 05:35:54 pm »
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BREAKING 🚨: Establishment Republicans are getting up and walking out while @RepMattGaetz
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #821 on: January 06, 2023, 05:36:16 pm »
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Can someone tell me why it's so horrifying and devastating for Congress to take a few days to debate and negotiate over who should be third in line to the presidency and rule the House?

Aren't debates of this kind called "democracy," as rare as it now is for Congress to do this?



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The $1.7b omnibus bill Congress just passed was 4,000 pages. Nobody who voted read it all. This is how it works: Leaders put together huge bills and order members to vote YES.

This is a fundamentally broken and anti-democratic system. Let's have a few days to shine light on it.

Because it's pointless. Pick a better fight. Nobody cares about this. Let's form some committees and go after the Dems. Let's go after Hunter Biden's laptop. Or investigate J6 from the other side. Or the Twitter files. Or the myriad of other cause worth actually taking a stand. Not this!!!!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #822 on: January 06, 2023, 05:36:59 pm »
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She could have been a contender....for Speaker.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #823 on: January 06, 2023, 05:37:57 pm »
Bishop (NC) switched to McCarthy.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #824 on: January 06, 2023, 05:38:28 pm »
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McCarthy staff advised Republicans to to walk off the floor during Gaetz speech nominating Jordan, reports @AnnieGrayerCNN
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