House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread

[Maj. Bill Martin]

You mean McCarthy.  He's the one who keeps pushing for votes he can't win while at the same time refusing to give up the concessions to Conservatives that would secure his victory.

There is absolutely no prohibition on any other candidate - Gaetz, Jordan, Scalise whomever - throwing their hat into the ring.  And if the point came where that person started getting more votes than McCarthy, then perhaps he should think about withdrawing.   But so far, the only other guys getting votes don't seem to be catching him.  It isn't remotely close.  Until it is, he shouldn't withdraw.

That's what Gaetz' group should be doing - finding another popular member willing to run, and putting forward his/her name.

[Mesaclone]

I stand with the 20 against the 200 who want to come along and get along twatwaffles.

Jim Jordan is a twatwaffle?

[Wingnut]

That's what Gaetz' group should be doing - finding another popular member willing to run, and putting forward his/her name.

Just like High School.  Vote for most popular.  I know our "Voted Most Popular" contestant won by giving Blow jobs. 

[Hoodat]

There is absolutely no prohibition on any other candidate - Gaetz, Jordan, Scalise whomever - throwing their hat into the ring.  And if the point came where that person started getting more votes than McCarthy, then perhaps he should think about withdrawing.   But so far, the only other guys getting votes don't seem to be catching him.  It isn't remotely close.  Until it is, he shouldn't withdraw.

How's that strategy working for you?

[Mesaclone]

There is absolutely no prohibition on any other candidate - Gaetz, Jordan, Scalise whomever - throwing their hat into the ring.  And if the point came where that person started getting more votes than McCarthy, then perhaps he should think about withdrawing.   But so far, the only other guys getting votes don't seem to be catching him.  It isn't remotely close.  Until it is, he shouldn't withdraw.

That's what Gaetz' group should be doing - finding another popular member willing to run, and putting forward his/her name.

And that’s the point…you’ve nailed it. They HAVE no alternative. They can’t nominate a Freedom Caucus member because they lose all the moderates. Even a hard line conservative can’t get 218. You CAN get someone who is neither RINO nor FC….but the FC guys won’t nominate such a person. So bottom line is they have nothing and no one to nominate…all they can do is obstruct.

It’s a dumb strategy with no end game….which is why I call them the 22 morons. If they weren’t morons, they’d have a candidate of their own to challenge McCarthy.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

How's that strategy working for you?

Certainly no worse than Gaetz' strategy is working for him.

[Mesaclone]

How's that strategy working for you?

Better than the strategy of the morons getting just 22 votes.

[Hoodat]

Better than the strategy of the morons getting just 22 votes.

Those 22 votes are 17 more than they needed.  Another win.

[corbe]

   Who knew there was only 201 Committee assignments to hand out.

[Mesaclone]

Just like High School.  Vote for most popular.  I know our "Voted Most Popular" contestant won by giving Blow jobs.

Did she win in a blowout?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

And that’s the point…you’ve nailed it. They HAVE no alternative. They can’t nominate a Freedom Caucus member because they lose all the moderates. Even a hard line conservative can’t get 218. You CAN get someone who is neither RINO nor FC….but the FC guys won’t nominate such a person. So bottom line is they have nothing and no one to nominate…all they can do is obstruct.

It’s a dumb strategy with no end game….which is why I call them the 22 morons. If they weren’t morons, they’d have a candidate of their own to challenge McCarthy.

If they do somehow convince McCartjy to take himself out of the race, They are going to have blown all their leverage.  Whoever does agree to step in likely will not agree to any of the additional conditions to which McCarthy is agreeing right now.  So they'll keep McCarthy out, but they'll probably get someone else who is even less conservative, and who won't give them any guarantees at all.

[Sighlass]

Here is a good generic Ring Girl to use from now on.

[DB]

Did she win in a blowout?

He went to a very progressive school. I wouldn't assume it was a she...

[Hoodat]

And that’s the point…you’ve nailed it. They HAVE no alternative.

It was pure idiocy to strong-arm 20 members by telling them that their anti-McCarthy votes ensured that they would not get any committee seats for the next two years.  Why in the heck would any of them vote for McCarthy after that?

[Mesaclone]

Those 22 votes are 17 more than they needed.  Another win.

No, what they need is another 196….or they are just being blowhard morons.

[Wingnut]

Did she win in a blowout?

t was neck and neck, but in the end, she won by a head.

[Mesaclone]

It was pure idiocy to strong-arm 20 members by telling them that their anti-McCarthy votes ensured that they would not get any committee seats for the next two years.  Why in the heck would any of them vote for McCarthy after that?

That was Rogers, and I agree that it was foolish at that point in negotiations.

[Cyber Liberty]

Did she win in a blowout?

I'm just praying it's a "she."

[Sighlass]

No, what they need is another 196….or they are just being blowhard morons.

Drop McHoldThePurseStrings PAC and see if they have no problem voting for someone else. McHoldTheRinoPurseStrings is more like it... the hold the swamp purse strings.

[Mesaclone]

t was neck and neck, but in the end, she won by a head.

Strong strategic move on her part. Probably hard to swallow….for her opponent though.

[Hoodat]

No, what they need is another 196….or they are just being blowhard morons.

Nope.  They only need five to block an egotistical entitled establishment hack collaborator from seizing the Speaker's chair.  They would have needed more if McCarthy had lifted a finger to get more Republicans elected.  Karma's a bitch.

[Mesaclone]

Drop McHoldThePurseStrings PAC and see if they have no problem voting for someone else.

Ok. They’re dropped. Every single person in that caucus is free to vote any way they want to.

[Sighlass]

It was pure idiocy to strong-arm 20 members by telling them that their anti-McCarthy votes ensured that they would not get any committee seats for the next two years.  Why in the heck would any of them vote for McCarthy after that?

Locally the GOP elites did that with a no money for you unless you support the Gas Tax... It is crooked swamp Good ole Boy politics that suddenly has a problem when it thrown back in their faces.

[Sighlass]

Ok. They’re dropped. Every single person in that caucus is free to vote any way they want to.

By what means are they dropped, is it written in stone or just a verbal agreement with the devil. A devil we know time and time again, you know the one with the "F" rating of keeping his word.

[Wingnut]

Strong strategic move on her part. Probably hard to swallow….for her opponent though.

Her opponent had to hand it to the winner.   She just couldn't keep up. Her hand over fist just did't make muster.