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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #350 on: January 05, 2023, 08:50:00 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 06:38:37 pm
I am in tears.  Twenty-one Republicans standing on principle, refusing to bend.  This is a beautiful moment.

Ain't it though? I am a HAPPY guy! Haven't seen a Republican with this much salt since Cruz stood on the floor and called Turdle a liar!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #351 on: January 05, 2023, 08:50:40 pm »
Boebert:  "We don't govern in fear.  We govern for the People in principle."
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #352 on: January 05, 2023, 08:51:00 pm »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on January 05, 2023, 08:45:35 pm
This is absolute stupidity on steroids. Let's say the Gang of 20 get what they want - McCarthy withdraws.

OK, what happens next? Only one thing is reasonably possible: Hakeem Jeffries becomes the Speaker of the House.

Why? Because there is no one else among House Republicans who will get more than the Democrats' 212 votes. They will divide their votes among various candidates, because the chance of them agreeing on any one person in lockstep, like the Democrats is nil. None. Nada. Not happening.

Idiots.

It takes 218.  No way 6 Republicans vote for Jeffries.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #353 on: January 05, 2023, 08:51:48 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on January 05, 2023, 08:45:30 pm
That's a half slice. If McCarthy made the same deal with Rats there would be no objections from the same 200.

Ok, so every single Republican in the House other than those 20 would have no problem if McCarthy handed the Democrats prime committee chairmanships and extra seats.  Great.

Have a Blessed Day!
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #354 on: January 05, 2023, 08:51:59 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on January 05, 2023, 06:45:38 pm
How rich that would be. Make it like pulling hens teeth to give up anything to Conservatives, but just hand over to the Rats and end up worse.

And I think he might be that desperate.

I don't think he can, because that makes the point already in mind - That there ain't much difference between the two...
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #355 on: January 05, 2023, 08:52:18 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 05, 2023, 08:43:00 pm
Fact.  McCarthy's in big trouble because he failed to get more R's elected last November.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #356 on: January 05, 2023, 08:52:49 pm »
"Rep Don Bacon (R-NE): “These 20 Republicans are embarrassing the House, the Republicans, and our country… We also have to be willing to consider working with the Democrats at some point.”  (Video)


https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1611090377687048192
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #357 on: January 05, 2023, 08:53:26 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 05, 2023, 08:51:48 pm
Ok, so every single Republican in the House other than those 20 would have no problem if McCarthy handed the Democrats prime committee chairmanships and extra seats.  Great.

Have a Blessed Day!

If McCarthy is capable of that, then the 21 are definitely in the right.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #358 on: January 05, 2023, 08:55:06 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 05, 2023, 08:52:49 pm
"Rep Don Bacon (R-NE): “These 20 Republicans are embarrassing the House, the Republicans, and our country… We also have to be willing to consider working with the Democrats at some point.”  (Video)

Every Establishment-loving, Democrat-compromising, perk-loving, voter-betraying bitch like this can go straight to hell.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #359 on: January 05, 2023, 08:55:10 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 05, 2023, 06:49:50 pm
[...] and they've got a "neutral" Speaker.

They've got a 'neutral' speaker in McCarthy already.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #360 on: January 05, 2023, 08:55:51 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 08:47:50 pm
https://nypost.com/2023/01/03/rep-kevin-mccarthy-says-earned-house-speaker-job/

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Rep. Kevin McCarthy told his fellow Republicans “I earned this job” during a heated conference meeting Tuesday morning, just hours before the full chamber was expected to vote on his bid to be speaker of the House.

“I earned this job,” said McCarthy (R-Calif.). “We earned this majority, and God damn it, we are going to win it today.”

However, the GOP leader also admitted that he won’t have the 218 votes likely needed to win on the first ballot, according to CNN, but vowed not to stand down if his initial bid fails.

​“I’m not going to go away,” McCarthy said to his colleagues. “I’m going to stand until the last four friends stand with me.”

I know he said he wasn't going to withdraw.  I'm asking about claim that he "loudly proclaimed"  he'd "go scorched earth" and would "burn this institution down".
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #361 on: January 05, 2023, 08:56:12 pm »
7 anti-McCarthy votes already

This goes to a 10th ballot.  Hopefully not today.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #362 on: January 05, 2023, 08:56:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 08:51:00 pm
It takes 218.  No way 6 Republicans vote for Jeffries.

You don't seem to understand how the false-dilemma logical fallacy works.  It is a favorite rhetorical tool of Democrats and Establishment-loving Republicans.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #363 on: January 05, 2023, 08:56:39 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 05, 2023, 08:51:48 pm
Ok, so every single Republican in the House other than those 20 would have no problem if McCarthy handed the Democrats prime committee chairmanships and extra seats.  Great.

Have a Blessed Day!

It would be a logical conclusion to the long existing pattern...
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #364 on: January 05, 2023, 08:56:53 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 07:01:21 pm


These number girls are cracking me up.  :beer:
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #365 on: January 05, 2023, 08:56:57 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 08:53:26 pm
If McCarthy is capable of that, then the 21 are definitely in the right.

To be clear, I'm not the one who made that claim.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #366 on: January 05, 2023, 08:57:34 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 08:56:12 pm
7 anti-McCarthy votes already

This goes to a 10th ballot.  Hopefully not today.

In the first three days of the new Congress, not a single dime has been added to the federal debt.  Life is good.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #367 on: January 05, 2023, 08:58:01 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 05, 2023, 08:55:51 pm
I know he said he wasn't going to withdraw.  I'm asking about claim that he "loudly proclaimed"  he'd "go scorched earth" and would "burn this institution down".

You don't think waiting down to the last 4 buddies doesn't meet that criteria?


Why not 10...30...100?

You are pretty funny dude.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #368 on: January 05, 2023, 08:58:52 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 08:57:34 pm
In the first three days of the new Congress, not a single dime has been added to the federal debt.

Wrong.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html?taxpayer
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #369 on: January 05, 2023, 09:00:10 pm »
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #370 on: January 05, 2023, 09:01:10 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 05, 2023, 08:58:52 pm
Wrong.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html?taxpayer

WRONG!!!!!

No new additonal incremental debt was added.  That takes legislation ,  and budgetary outlay  release via GAO.....
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #371 on: January 05, 2023, 09:03:16 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 08:55:06 pm
Every Establishment-loving, Democrat-compromising, perk-loving, voter-betraying bitch like this can go straight to hell.

They're already there, they wouldn't understand Liberty if it came explained to them on a almost 250 year old piece of parchment.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #372 on: January 05, 2023, 09:04:10 pm »
Quote from: oldno7 on January 05, 2023, 07:59:29 pm
They aren't destroying Conservatism, they're defining it.

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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #373 on: January 05, 2023, 09:06:59 pm »
9th vote. Same result.

If you want to be a leader McCarthy, be a damn leader! It's on you to get the votes, not bully and strong arm to get your way because you feel entitled.

Quit bleeding and wailing at those who oppose you. Quit the church bitty sophistry trying to shame your opposition. Find a solution and live with the consequences.

Leadership starts with leading. Crap or get off the pot.
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Re: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread
« Reply #374 on: January 05, 2023, 09:07:21 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 08:51:00 pm
It takes 218.  No way 6 Republicans vote for Jeffries.

Then Gaetz needs to shut his effing mouth.  There is fury building among the 200 Republicans being held hostage.  Six, it takes just six.
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