Author Topic: House Speaker Vote Live 2nd Thread (Read 46405 times)

Kamaji · « **Reply #225 on:** January 05, 2023, 05:56:42 pm »

So, what is the end-game here? Is a democrat speaker, or one beholden to the democrats, really preferable?

catfish1957 · « **Reply #226 on:** January 05, 2023, 05:58:32 pm »

House Speaker election.... Day 3

Hoodat · « **Reply #227 on:** January 05, 2023, 05:59:53 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 05:47:31 pm

Freakin' Gaetz. What an AH.

Can't really blame him. It's not like he's gonna get kicked off any committees.

Bigun · « **Reply #228 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:00:21 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 05:56:42 pm

So, what is the end-game here? Is a democrat speaker, or one beholden to the democrats, really preferable?

I personally don't care who the speaker is so long as the RULES get fixed so that the speaker cannot be a dictator.

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #229 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:00:55 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 05:56:42 pm

So, what is the end-game here? Is a democrat speaker, or one beholden to the democrats, really preferable?

I think we're getting to a point where the does need to be an end game, but I can't say where and when that should be without knowing what's been agreed to.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #230 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:01:30 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 05:59:53 pm

Can't really blame him. It's not like he's gonna get kicked off any committees.

I know. Already a clown car show and besides McCarthy he's wearing the biggest nose.

Kamaji · « **Reply #231 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:01:40 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on January 05, 2023, 06:00:21 pm

I personally don't care who the speaker is so long as the RULES get fixed so that the speaker cannot be a dictator.

And that will happen if McCarthy cuts a deal with the democrats? Or if a democrat becomes the speaker?

Hoodat · « **Reply #232 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:02:41 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on January 05, 2023, 05:58:32 pm

House Speaker election.... Day 3

Bigun · « **Reply #233 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:03:15 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 06:01:40 pm

And that will happen if McCarthy cuts a deal with the democrats? Or if a democrat becomes the speaker?

Oh! Hell no! And I never said it would.

Kamaji · « **Reply #234 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:05:16 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on January 05, 2023, 06:03:15 pm

Oh! Hell no! And I never said it would.

So, at this point, what is more likely: that McCarthy will agree to handcuffs, and all the other demands of the holdouts, or that he will cut a deal with the democrats?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #235 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:07:12 pm »

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My sources are telling me Kevin McCarthy will not get the votes today

I don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes, but the negotiations seem to be getting worse not better

Deadlock is hardening

McCarthy has no shot anytime soon

Bigun · « **Reply #236 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:07:30 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 06:05:16 pm

So, at this point, what is more likely: that McCarthy will agree to handcuffs, and all the other demands of the holdouts, or that he will cut a deal with the democrats?

I don't know. But as I said days ago, McCarthy WILL be speaker even if he has to cut a deal with Democrats to get there. That's just how he rolls.

Hoodat · « **Reply #237 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:08:08 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 06:05:16 pm

So, at this point, what is more likely: that McCarthy will agree to handcuffs, and all the other demands of the holdouts, or that he will cut a deal with the democrats?

McCarthy won't be able to cut a deal with Democrats. More likely, Democrats will be able to find six other Republicans to support another GOP Rep that they have more dirt on.

The bigger question is why McCarthy refuses to cut a deal with Conservatives.

Kamaji · « **Reply #238 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:09:22 pm »

Quote from: Hoodat on January 05, 2023, 06:08:08 pm

McCarthy won't be able to cut a deal with Democrats. More likely, Democrats will be able to find six other Republicans to support another GOP Rep that they have more dirt on.

The bigger question is why McCarthy refuses to cut a deal with Conservatives.

Why won’t he be able to cut a deal with the democrats?

And if he doesn’t, and the democrats peel off a couple of GOP votes for their own choice, is that choice going to be preferable to McCarthy?

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #239 on:** January 05, 2023, 06:10:40 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on January 05, 2023, 05:56:42 pm

So, what is the end-game here? Is a democrat speaker, or one beholden to the democrats, really preferable?

From all reports and internals it appears McCarthy has made substantial concessions, not the least of which is a vacate the chair vote at the request of one.

My fear is the center-left Republicans are going to get really pissed off if the twenty are still adding to their list of demands. It only takes six of them to vote with the democrats ------ and not only do we lose the House management, but the Freedom Caucus won't even be included in the Congressional newsletter.