Kevin McCarthy’s fate on the line, House conservatives warn speaker’s election could take days

[Free Vulcan]

Ya. And it’s because I can see the damage this doing to the conservative cause. It’s long term damage and it’s severe.

Oh the drama.

We've had Senate filibusters that have went on for weeks and the country went on it's merry way. Most conservatives if they are paying attention are cheering.

[Mesaclone]

Oh the drama.

We've had Senate filibusters that have went on for weeks and the country went on it's merry way. Most conservatives if they are paying attention are cheering.

Great. So who’s their candidate for the Speakership?

[Bigun]

I just have this on in the background. But if Rosendale was the guy that said there was no one there for votes except the two chosen reps...I am impressed with him for calling this out. When watching voting, I have noticed the lack of reps in an empty chamber.

As far as I'm concerned, when conducting votes, everybody should be AIS (a$$ in seats).

  

[roamer_1]

Now I’m not just jealous of the incredible vistas your state affords, I also want your representative.
He was awesome!

That's right - And I will be backing him to the 9s. 

[Wingnut]

Damn right.  I want to have his baby.

Is that a tomato paste stain is see on your undies?   

[deb]

Damn right.  I want to have his baby.

You’re in luck. I think that’s actually possible these days.   

[Mesaclone]

Pearl clutching and couch fainting...

Nah. See stupidity, and point it out. That’s all I’m doing.

[Smokin Joe]

Oh the drama.

We've had Senate filibusters that have went on for weeks and the country went on it's merry way. Most conservatives if they are paying attention are cheering.

You have to remember that the Conservative cause and the Republican cause do not necessarily coincide. Unfortunately, the GOPe thinks, by virtue of being to the right of the Lunatic Left, that they are "Conservative", when that argument can only be made in a relative sense. The left edge of the road is to the right of the left hand ditch (and the field beyond).

[Hoodat]

Oh the drama.

We've had Senate filibusters that have went on for weeks and the country went on it's merry way.

I don't recall Democrats worrying about the clock when they were working overtime to block passage of the Civil Rights Act.

Most conservatives if they are paying attention are cheering.

Yep.  100% correct.  The only people upset are the ones worried about how Democrats will say mean things about them if they don't hurry up and get the Paul Ryan disciple into the Speaker's chair so that the Democrats can start passing spending bills again.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I hope the FC realizes that the rules they're pushing to weaken the power of the Speaker and strengthen the individual members are going to apply to that very large Democratic minority as well.  And they're going to be interested in making a Republican-run Congress look as dysfunctional as possible.

That, coupled with the requirement to have 12 separate appropriations bills, is going to make for some serious chaos later this year.

[Wingnut]

That, coupled with the requirement to have 12 separate appropriations bills, is going to make for some serious chaos later this year.

Chaos is not a bad thing.

[Hoodat]

That, coupled with the requirement to have 12 separate appropriations bills, is going to make for some serious chaos later this year.

The requirement for separate appropriations bills is non-negotiable.

[Mesaclone]

Chaos is not a bad thing.

In this context, its a very bad thing. Looking like we can't be functional...not the way to win elections.

[Hoodat]

In this context, its a very bad thing. Looking like we can't be functional...not the way to win elections.

In other words, style over substance.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Chaos is not a bad thing.

Well, the country is likely to be in the midst of a recession, and the Democrats and media will be looking for an easy target to blame.  A GOP-led House that can't pass appropriations bills, and is threatening to send the government into default, will be the perfect villain.

[Wingnut]

Well, the country is likely to be in the midst of a recession, and the Democrats and media will be looking for an easy target to blame.  A GOP-led House that can't pass appropriations bills, and is threatening to send the government into default, will be the perfect villain.

You say that like it is a bad thing. 

[Wingnut]

In this context, its a very bad thing. Looking like we can't be functional...not the way to win elections.

The way we have won other elections hasn't worked well for us.  So WTF.    Burn the party down.

[Hoodat]

. . . the Democrats and media will be looking for an easy target to blame. . .

By all means, we should avoid doing anything that will piss off the Democrats or the media.  Let's put a collaborator in the Speaker's chair right away to make nice with them.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

You say that like it is a bad thing.

Uh, yes.  I do think giving the Democrats an easy way to blame Republicans for economic problems is a bad thing.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

By all means, we should avoid doing anything that will piss off the Democrats or the media.  Let's put a collaborator in the Speaker's chair right away to make nice with them.

Having a non-existent majority is a really bad time for this combination of rule changes. 

Want to know the worst part?

[Wingnut]

Uh, yes.  I do think giving the Democrats an easy way to blame Republicans for economic problems is a bad thing.

What would change?  Not a damn thing... They have done that forever.

[Hoodat]

Uh, yes.  I do think giving the Democrats an easy way to blame Republicans for economic problems is a bad thing.

They already have an easy way.  They lie.  Been doing it for decades.  So to hell with playing nice.

And the reason we have economic problems is because Government has too much power.  If the government brings spending below 18% of GDP, then we won't have any economic problems.  And there is no way that will ever happen with Kevin McCarthy in the Speaker's chair.

Or we can elect him Speaker and then listen to Democrats blame Republicans for economic problems, which we will still have.  Your choice.

[Hoodat]

Having a non-existent majority is a really bad time for this combination of rule changes.

Non-existent?  Do tell.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

What would change?  Not a damn thing... They have done that forever.

Except it has a much harder time sticking if there isn't an actual clusterfuck playing on the news every night for a month while the government goes unfunded.

[Wingnut]

Except it has a much harder time sticking if there isn't an actual clusterfuck playing on the news every night for a month while the government goes unfunded.

Well, not seeing a problem there,  If we unfund the gov we might actually be better off.