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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2575 on: May 01, 2023, 02:15:58 pm »
There were rumors a nuke was dropped last night, I'm guessing this explosion (conventional) is what they were referring to?

That was almost certainly it.

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« Reply #2576 on: May 01, 2023, 02:25:09 pm »
Russian soldiers are being thrown into holes in the ground and held captive as punishment for refusing to obey orders during Ukraine war

By STEWART CARR and RACHAEL BUNYAN
30 April 2023

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Since Autumn 2022, there have been multiple increasingly draconian initiatives to improve discipline in the force, especially since Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov assumed command of the operation in January 2023.'




More here:  https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-commanders-troops-holes-ground-punishment-uk-intel-2023-4
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« Reply #2577 on: May 01, 2023, 02:47:14 pm »
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Since Autumn 2022, there have been multiple increasingly draconian initiatives to improve discipline in the force, especially since Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov assumed command of the operation in January 2023.'




More here:  https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-commanders-troops-holes-ground-punishment-uk-intel-2023-4

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"Morale????

We don't  need no sticking morale,we have a dictatorship  and they WILL BOW TO OUR AUTHOR-ATAY!"

Well,at least until you push them too far and the "New Revolution" starts.

Just wait until enough crippled vets get back to their familes and start telling stories about  how their injuries were caused by their own leadership.

Yeah,I know that there is no living Soviet citizen that has ever been anything other than a slave to the state,but it is also true that the Soviet citizen of today is MUCH more informed of life outside the USSR today than ever,and they ain't buying the lies their parents and grandparents accepted as facts.

When you  put a pot of water over a stove that is lit,sooner or later the hot water is going to boil over.

It's just a matter of time before this  happens in Russia,and the more Russia pushes their newest war,the sooner it will happen.
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« Reply #2578 on: May 01, 2023, 03:17:02 pm »
Stalin must be rolling over in his tomb ... Stalin would motivate Russians the options of being killed by the enemy or being killed by the Kommissars.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2579 on: May 01, 2023, 11:53:51 pm »
     May 1, 2023
US Marine veteran volunteering in Ukraine killed outside of Bakhmut
His mother said he was killed on an access road leading into Bakhmut called the "Road of Life."
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26-year-old Cooper "Harris" Andrews, a veteran of the US Marines from Cleveland, Ohio, was killed on April 19 while fighting in Ukraine.

Fox News reports that the State Department said in a statement, "We can confirm the death of a US citizen in Ukraine. We are in touch with the family and providing all possible consular assistance. Out of respect for the family’s privacy during this difficult time, we have nothing further to add."

A US official told Fox that Andrews was in active service for the Marines from January 20, 2017, to January 16, 2022, and had been stationed in North Carolina....

The outlet reports Andrews also worked for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion, a group of foreign fighters aiding the Ukrainian military. His body has not been recovered from the country. ... Rest of story

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« Reply #2580 on: May 01, 2023, 11:55:19 pm »
     May 1, 2023
US Marine veteran volunteering in Ukraine killed outside of Bakhmut
His mother said he was killed on an access road leading into Bakhmut called the "Road of Life."

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« Reply #2581 on: May 02, 2023, 12:28:04 am »
     May 1, 2023
US Marine veteran volunteering in Ukraine killed outside of Bakhmut
His mother said he was killed on an access road leading into Bakhmut called the "Road of Life."
Joshua Young
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26-year-old Cooper "Harris" Andrews, a veteran of the US Marines from Cleveland, Ohio, was killed on April 19 while fighting in Ukraine.

Fox News reports that the State Department said in a statement, "We can confirm the death of a US citizen in Ukraine. We are in touch with the family and providing all possible consular assistance. Out of respect for the family’s privacy during this difficult time, we have nothing further to add."

A US official told Fox that Andrews was in active service for the Marines from January 20, 2017, to January 16, 2022, and had been stationed in North Carolina....

The outlet reports Andrews also worked for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion, a group of foreign fighters aiding the Ukrainian military. His body has not been recovered from the country. ... Rest of story


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A crying damn shame.

I wonder if his death had anything to do with  language difficulties? I suspect there are VERY few Americans who speak and understand Ukrainian,and being able to understand what the people around you are saying and the orders being given to you be someone in a  language  foreign to you is a VERY important survival tool.

Still,I salute this brave Marine for his courage as well as for his desire to help right a wrong,even if it put his life at risk. He is a hero in my mind.

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« Reply #2582 on: May 02, 2023, 12:33:26 am »
BTW,if anyone finds out where and when his funeral will be,I would be grateful if you would start a thread to announce it. I would like to attend if it is close enough to me to be possible,and I can't be the only one.

Even if I can't personally attend the funeral,I hope there are enough "outsiders" there to help his family understand that we all appreciate his sacrifice,as well as the sacrifices they will now have to make.

This young man can NOT be allowed to go in the ground unnoticed and without the show of respect he deserves.
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« Reply #2583 on: May 02, 2023, 12:36:11 am »
BTW,if anyone finds out where and when his funeral will be,I would be grateful if you would start a thread to announce it. I would like to attend if it is close enough to me to be possible,and I can't be the only one.

Even if I can't personally attend the funeral,I hope there are enough "outsiders" there to help his family understand that we all appreciate his sacrifice,as well as the sacrifices they will now have to make.

This young man can NOT be allowed to go in the ground unnoticed and without the show of respect he deserves.

The article states that his body has not been recovered; hopefully they'll be able to bring him home.
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« Reply #2584 on: May 02, 2023, 12:44:07 am »
The article states that his body has not been recovered; hopefully they'll be able to bring him home.

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Even if they can't find the body,there will be a formal funeral held for him,and the burial of an empty casket. The formal funeral is to try to help the family of the deceased to start healing. If/when his  remains are found and returned to his family,they can have the casket opened,his remains put in it,and then put back into the ground.

The main focus now should be in honoring him and helping his family to try to heal and recover. I think that if a lot of strangers show up at the funeral ceremony and act respectful,that will help his family to heal a little because they will know that their son didn't die for no reason.
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« Reply #2585 on: May 02, 2023, 12:47:37 am »
The main focus now should be in honoring him and helping his family to try to heal and recover. I think that if a lot of strangers show up at the funeral ceremony and act respectful,that will help his family to heal a little because they will know that their son didn't die for no reason.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2586 on: May 02, 2023, 12:47:45 am »
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Even if they can't find the body,there will be a formal funeral held for him,and the burial of an empty casket. The formal funeral is to try to help the family of the deceased to start healing. If/when his  remains are found and returned to his family,they can have the casket opened,his remains put in it,and then put back into the ground.

The main focus now should be in honoring him and helping his family to try to heal and recover. I think that if a lot of strangers show up at the funeral ceremony and act respectful,that will help his family to heal a little because they will know that their son didn't die for no reason.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2587 on: May 02, 2023, 04:41:46 am »
Explosions derail freight train and blow up power line in Russia

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Explosions have derailed a freight train and blown up a power line in Russia, local governors said.

Dark grey smoke can be seen billowing from a fire spreading through several carriages laying on their side in footage on social media.

Russian authorities say the Bryansk region - which borders both Ukraine and Belarus - has been attacked multiple times, with the railway operator confirming the derailment at 10.17am local time.  .  .

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-kremlin-avoiding-overly-repressive-measures-out-of-fear-for-putins-future-12541713?postid=5852656#liveblog-body
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2588 on: May 02, 2023, 04:46:36 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 1, 2023

Riley Bailey, Kateryna Stepanenko, Karolina Hird, Grace Mappes, Layne Philipson, and Frederick W. Kagan  |  May 1, 2023, 5pm ET


Russian forces conducted another large-scale missile strike against Ukraine on the night of April 30 to May 1. Ukrainian sources reported that nine Tu-95 and two Tu-160 strategic bombers took off from Murmansk Oblast and near the Caspian Sea and launched 18 Kh-101/555 cruise missiles at Ukraine. Ukrainian air defense shot down 15 of the missiles. Geolocated footage from Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, shows that one of the missiles struck the Pavlohrad Chemical Plant and caused a massive explosion on impact. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed on May 1 that the strikes targeted Ukrainian military-industrial objects and successfully disrupted the production of military resources. The Russian MoD has recently shifted its rhetoric and is actively describing strike campaigns, likely in an effort to portray a proactive approach to growing concerns in the Russian information space regarding a Ukrainian counteroffensive. Russian milbloggers claimed that the missiles struck Ukrainian air defense systems and a transportation hub in Pavlohrad. Ukrainian Air Force Spokesperson Yuriy Ihnat noted that the fact that both the Tu-95 and Tu-160s carried far fewer missiles than their maximum load suggests that Russia continues to struggle with adequate production of such munitions.  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2589 on: May 02, 2023, 05:41:52 am »
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A crying damn shame.

I wonder if his death had anything to do with  language difficulties? I suspect there are VERY few Americans who speak and understand Ukrainian,and being able to understand what the people around you are saying and the orders being given to you be someone in a  language  foreign to you is a VERY important survival tool.

Still,I salute this brave Marine for his courage as well as for his desire to help right a wrong,even if it put his life at risk. He is a hero in my mind.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2590 on: May 02, 2023, 05:44:41 am »
Explosions derail freight train and blow up power line in Russia

18h ago  05:47


Explosions have derailed a freight train and blown up a power line in Russia, local governors said.

Dark grey smoke can be seen billowing from a fire spreading through several carriages laying on their side in footage on social media.

Russian authorities say the Bryansk region - which borders both Ukraine and Belarus - has been attacked multiple times, with the railway operator confirming the derailment at 10.17am local time.  .  .

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-kremlin-avoiding-overly-repressive-measures-out-of-fear-for-putins-future-12541713?postid=5852656#liveblog-body


I think there is some sabotage going on in Russia.
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« Reply #2591 on: May 02, 2023, 12:02:25 pm »
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« Reply #2592 on: May 02, 2023, 12:06:27 pm »

I think there is some sabotage going on in Russia.

Actually more over here in this country, if you'd watch domestic news.
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« Reply #2593 on: May 02, 2023, 01:38:02 pm »
 May 1, 2023 3:15pm EDT
US says 20,000 Russians killed in Ukraine war since December
The White House estimates that since December Russia has suffered 100,000 casualties
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The White House said Monday it now estimates that just since December Russia has suffered 100,000 casualties, including 20,000 killed, as Ukraine has rebuffed a heavy-assault by Russian forces in eastern Ukraine.

In what has become a grinding war of attrition, the fiercest battles have been in the eastern Donetsk region, where Russia is struggling to encircle the city of Bakhmut in the face of dogged Ukrainian defense.

White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said the U.S. estimate is based on newly declassified American intelligence. He did not detail how the intelligence community derived the number.

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« Reply #2594 on: May 02, 2023, 02:38:50 pm »
I live in Cleveland.  I'll see if I can find out, and I'll go.  Former Marine myself, and I've been to a bunch of local funerals for Marines killed overseas.

ETA:  Can't find anything.  I looked up his mom's name and know where she lives, but couldn't find anything about a funeral.   Where she lives is a comparatively poor area of the city.

I'll keep looking to see if anything pops up. Local media only seems to have the national stories.
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« Reply #2595 on: May 03, 2023, 12:34:43 am »
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« Reply #2596 on: May 03, 2023, 12:33:33 pm »
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« Reply #2597 on: May 03, 2023, 12:36:59 pm »
Russia accuses Ukraine of attempted drone attack on Kremlin

Alleged assault in Moscow seen as an attempt on Putin’s life, state media reports.

3 May 2023

Russia has accused Ukraine of attempting an overnight drone attack on the Kremlin with the aim of killing President Vladimir Putin.

The allegation was made on Wednesday by the Russian government and reported by several state news agencies.

Putin was not injured and there was no material damage to the Kremlin buildings, Russian officials said.

The Kremlin warned that Russia reserves the right to retaliate and that it viewed the alleged assault as a “terrorist” attack.

“The Kremlin has assessed these actions as a planned terrorist act and an assassination attempt on the president on the eve of Victory Day, the May 9 Parade,” state news outlet RIA reported, adding Putin had not changed his schedule and was working as usual.

The president had not been in the Kremlin at the time, and was working on Wednesday at his Novo Ogaryovo residence outside Moscow, according to RIA.

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« Reply #2598 on: May 03, 2023, 12:40:26 pm »
Russia accuses Ukraine of attempted drone attack on Kremlin

Alleged assault in Moscow seen as an attempt on Putin’s life, state media reports.

3 May 2023

Russia has accused Ukraine of attempting an overnight drone attack on the Kremlin with the aim of killing President Vladimir Putin.

The allegation was made on Wednesday by the Russian government and reported by several state news agencies.

Putin was not injured and there was no material damage to the Kremlin buildings, Russian officials said.

The Kremlin warned that Russia reserves the right to retaliate and that it viewed the alleged assault as a “terrorist” attack.

“The Kremlin has assessed these actions as a planned terrorist act and an assassination attempt on the president on the eve of Victory Day, the May 9 Parade,” state news outlet RIA reported, adding Putin had not changed his schedule and was working as usual.

The president had not been in the Kremlin at the time, and was working on Wednesday at his Novo Ogaryovo residence outside Moscow, according to RIA.

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Source:  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/3/russia-accuses-ukraine-of-attempted-drone-attack-on-kremlin




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« Reply #2599 on: May 03, 2023, 12:42:39 pm »
Video:

https://rumble.com/v2lsw9a-eyewitnesses-footage-of-the-attack-on-the-kremlin.html

Flashback to March 2022:

Assassination plot against Zelensky foiled and unit sent to kill him ‘destroyed,’ Ukraine says

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A recent alleged assassination plot against Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was foiled over the weekend and the Chechen servicemen sent from Russia were “destroyed,” a Ukrainian security leader said Tuesday.

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