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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2550 on: April 29, 2023, 12:29:22 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2551 on: April 29, 2023, 12:43:22 pm »
I wonder what is Putin thinking right now:



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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2552 on: April 29, 2023, 01:41:29 pm »
This strike suggests that whatever the Ukrainains (and NATO/US) are planning, it's going to happen in the south, perhaps targeting Melitopol for liberation, and even Berdiansk, if there is a similar Kharkiv/Izium/Lyman collapse of the Russian lines.

Based on the Kherson model, shaping ops appear to be underway:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65414836

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https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3375218/dod-officials-detail-efforts-to-support-ukraine-defend-nato/
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2553 on: April 29, 2023, 01:46:05 pm »
I wonder what is Putin thinking right now:



https://twitter.com/drigli_/status/1652167481400651776

Has AOC, Biden, and the rest of the dims and envirowhacko community commented about Ukraine's environmental crime?  ./s.  :cool:
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2554 on: April 29, 2023, 01:48:34 pm »
I wonder what is Putin thinking right now:



https://twitter.com/drigli_/status/1652167481400651776

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The reality is,he is nothing more than a politician. Yeah,he "earned his spurs" in a VERY corrupt and paranoid system that  rewards it's trolls by letting them lord it over lesser trolls,but he is still nothing more than a political opportunist.

You think some of the creatures that WE have for politicians are corrupt,consider that Putin is the CMMFIC of Communism outside of China,and he also OWNS the largest private yacht in the world.

In a state where private property is prohibited. Nobody even owns the house or apartment they live in.

Yet he manages to get away with it by using the power of the state to intimidate or even kill anyone that gets in his way.

Kinda makes the weasels that WE call "politicians" look like Santa by comparison,doesn't it?
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2555 on: April 29, 2023, 02:03:04 pm »
This strike suggests that whatever the Ukrainains (and NATO/US) are planning, it's going to happen in the south, perhaps targeting Melitopol for liberation, and even Berdiansk, if there is a similar Kharkiv/Izium/Lyman collapse of the Russian lines.

Based on the Kherson model, shaping ops appear to be underway:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65414836

Reference:

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3375218/dod-officials-detail-efforts-to-support-ukraine-defend-nato/


Well, the fact that they took out a Russian oil refinery is going to be a major setback for Russia. I know they have resources elsewhere, but this was closer to the front.  I believe they are softening up the Russia front for an attack on that region and may go for Crimera.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2556 on: April 29, 2023, 02:04:54 pm »
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"MUST cover my ass by finding someone else to blame!"

The reality is,he is nothing more than a politician. Yeah,he "earned his spurs" in a VERY corrupt and paranoid system that  rewards it's trolls by letting them lord it over lesser trolls,but he is still nothing more than a political opportunist.

You think some of the creatures that WE have for politicians are corrupt,consider that Putin is the CMMFIC of Communism outside of China,and he also OWNS the largest private yacht in the world.

In a state where private property is prohibited. Nobody even owns the house or apartment they live in.

Yet he manages to get away with it by using the power of the state to intimidate or even kill anyone that gets in his way.

Kinda makes the weasels that WE call "politicians" look like Santa by comparison,doesn't it?


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He does, if I was a military advisor, to Putin, I would avoid being near windows at all costs and have someone taste their food.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2557 on: April 29, 2023, 02:06:06 pm »
Has AOC, Biden, and the rest of the dims and envirowhacko community commented about Ukraine's environmental crime?  ./s.  :cool:


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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2558 on: April 29, 2023, 02:10:50 pm »
On the other hand, depending on timing, the attacks in Sevastopol may be a feint, an attempt to draw Russian attention one way while the preparations for an actual attack take place elsewhere.

Who knows?

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2559 on: April 29, 2023, 02:23:25 pm »
On the other hand, depending on timing, the attacks in Sevastopol may be a feint, an attempt to draw Russian attention one way while the preparations for an actual attack take place elsewhere.

Who knows?


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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2560 on: April 29, 2023, 06:45:39 pm »
Hopefully, this is true:



Russia's Wagner group could soon cease to exist, founder tells blogger
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-wagner-group-could-soon-cease-exist-founder-tells-blogger-2023-04-28/
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2561 on: April 29, 2023, 11:39:59 pm »
This strike suggests that whatever the Ukrainains (and NATO/US) are planning, it's going to happen in the south, perhaps targeting Melitopol for liberation, and even Berdiansk, if there is a similar Kharkiv/Izium/Lyman collapse of the Russian lines.

Based on the Kherson model, shaping ops appear to be underway:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65414836

Reference:

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3375218/dod-officials-detail-efforts-to-support-ukraine-defend-nato/

That certainly would seem to make sense. I don't buy the idea that it is a strategic feint, as if the counterattack is going to come in the east rather than the south, simply because the Russians have their own satellites that can tell generally where Ukrainian units are.

The goal of striking towards Melitopol or Berdyansk would be to sever the land bridge between Ukraine and Russia. That would leave the Kerch bridge As the only route for bringing supplies to Crimea by land, and that could be taken out again as well.

So that would leave all the Russia  forces in the west dependent upon whatever supplies are already present in Crimea, or could be brought in by sea.  Destroying fuel stockpiles in Crimea obviously raises the specter of rushing units in the West suffering fuel shortages.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2563 on: April 29, 2023, 11:51:05 pm »
The body of another child was pulled out from under the rubble in Uman, reported by the Ministry of Internal Affairs. A total of 23 dead.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2564 on: April 30, 2023, 02:57:52 am »
У російській Пермі горів військовий завод.

ЗА КОРДОНОМ  |  29.04.23 22:21


29 квітня, у російській Пермі загорілось оборонне підприємство "Мотовіліхінські заводи".  .  .



https://censor.net/ua/photo_news/3415304/u_rosiyiskiyi_permi_goriv_viyiskovyyi_zavod_foto



In Russian Perm, a military plant was burning.

April 29, in the Russian Perm, the defense enterprise "Motovilikhinsky plants" caught fire.

According to Censor.NET, with reference to Espresso TV, this is reported by local telegram channels.

The fire occurred around 20:00 local time. Upon arrival of the Russian Emergencies Ministry, it became known that the transformer substation caught fire.

Currently, the fire in Perm has been extinguished. The fire was extinguished by 37 Russian firefighters, 10 pieces of equipment. Source: https://censor.net/ua/p3415304



This same plant had a bad fire about a year ago.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2565 on: April 30, 2023, 04:24:22 am »
Perm is like, way out in the middle of nowhere, about twice as far from Ukraine as Moscow.  Is this even war related?  Just curious.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2566 on: April 30, 2023, 01:21:01 pm »
Perm is like, way out in the middle of nowhere, about twice as far from Ukraine as Moscow.  Is this even war related?  Just curious.

Any event like this hampers Russia's ability to execute its war on Ukraine.  The cause could be domestic sabotage, carelessness and fatigue brought on by increased quotas, or simply incompetence in general.  Either way, it is a setback for Putin.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2567 on: April 30, 2023, 03:21:28 pm »
Any event like this hampers Russia's ability to execute its war on Ukraine.  The cause could be domestic sabotage, carelessness and fatigue brought on by increased quotas, or simply incompetence in general.  Either way, it is a setback for Putin.

We are seeing similar events in this country almost daily, and 99.9% of the population can't see past what is statistically implausible.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2568 on: April 30, 2023, 08:47:41 pm »
We are seeing similar events in this country almost daily, and 99.9% of the population can't see past what is statistically implausible.

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The  sad,sad truth  is that we in the west know more about what is going on in Russia and Ukraine than the typical Russian does. They don't get to see the burning Soviet tanks and oil tank explosions on tv that we do,and they don't even get to hear about it unless someone in their family was injured in Ukraine and returned home to heal.

Kinda like we get VERY little positive info about the Republican Party in the American media,but worse.

Worse for the time-being,anyhow.
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2569 on: April 30, 2023, 10:19:49 pm »
Fire Breaks Out In Russia’s Only MLRS Factory

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https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=54798

I didn’t mean to do two big “Russian fire” stories back-to-back, but this seems like potentially big news:

    A fire broke out on the territory of the Motovilikha Plant defence holding in Perm, Russia.

    Source: Kommersant citing Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation and Motovilikha Plant

    Details: Photos of the fire were posted by Perm’s social networks. Smoke from the territory of the plant is visible from different locations in Perm.

    The Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation stated that a report of a fire on the territory of PJSC Motovilikha Plants was received at 20:08. After arriving on location, it was established that the transformer booth was on fire. 37 people and 10 pieces of equipment from the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia were involved in extinguishing the fire. The previous area of the fire was 10 square metres.

    Quote: “Today, a fire broke out at the transformer substation on the territory of the enterprise. The fire was promptly contained by the specialists of the Ministry of Emergency Situations who went to the spot,” the press office of the PJSC Motovilikha Plant reported.

Frankly, those giant plums of smoke don’t look particularly contained.

    The transformer station belongs to the VK-2 boiler house (MZ subsidiary – Teplo-M LLC). According to the media sources, the fire did not affect the power supply of the boiler house.

    As Kommersant writes, PJSC Motovilikha Plant, Russia’s only manufacturer of multiple rocket launcher systems, has been in the tender process since 2018. At the time of its introduction, the company’s registered debt amounted to about RUB 17.6 billion. The production activity of mashholding is concentrated in its subsidiary structures: Special Design Bureau CJSC is engaged in the manufacture of weapons, and the rest of the production is carried out by Motovilikha – civil engineering, LLC. The PJSC property complex is put up for auction.

Could be shoddy Russian safety protocols. Could be sabotage from anti-war Russian partisans. Could be Ukraine action, though Perm is some 2,300 kilometers from Kiev. Could just be Uncle Ivan torching the place for some Goodfellas-esque debt erasure.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2570 on: April 30, 2023, 10:31:59 pm »

"Uncle Ivan torching the place for some Goodfellas-esque debt erasure"

 :silly:

I gotta remember that one.



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« Reply #2571 on: April 30, 2023, 10:51:30 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2572 on: May 01, 2023, 10:49:13 am »
Russian soldiers are being thrown into holes in the ground and held captive as punishment for refusing to obey orders during Ukraine war

By STEWART CARR and RACHAEL BUNYAN
30 April 2023

Russian commanders are understood to be imprisoning their own troops in grilled holes underground as the struggling invasion resorts to extreme methods of discipline in Ukraine. Amid reports of drunkenness, soldiers are said to have been thrown in what has been called 'Zindans' - holes in the ground covered up with metal grilles. It is a stark shift in policy from the 'relatively light touch' which military commanders used in the early days of the war, even allowing dissenting troops to quietly go home if they wished.

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Re: Ukraine 3
« Reply #2574 on: May 01, 2023, 02:06:42 pm »
There were rumors a nuke was dropped last night, I'm guessing this explosion (conventional) is what they were referring to?