BREAKING LIVE: Supreme Court Vote to END Roe v Wade in DRAFT OPINION by Justice Samuel Alito Leaked

[Kamaji]

Nope.  Sorry, it does no such thing.  Another unconstitutional reach of the Supreme Court.  Keep in mind that Amendment I does not guarantee Free Speech.  It only guarantees protection from the US Congress.  And by the Fourteenth Amendment, it is only that protection that applies equally to all.

Then the Second Amendment does not apply to the states, either.

You cannot have one and not the other.

[txradioguy]

"Holy moly, Justice Alito filed a concurring opinion in the New York concealed carry case in which he just got a fat shit all over Stephen Breyer's dissent.   This is amazing."

[Hoodat]

Then the Second Amendment does not apply to the states, either.

You cannot have one and not the other.

Again, incorrect.  Amendment II specifically states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Not so with Amendment I.  There is nothing in Amendment I that guarantees a right to free speech, free exercise, freedom from establishment, freedom of assembly, etc.  Read it for yourself.  There is no equal comparison between Amendment I and II.

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/GovKathyHochul/status/1539983183990620166

So what is the Legislature going to do?  Outlaw the US Constitution?

[Bigun]

There is still an opinion still to come that could have FAR more effect on our lives in this country than any of the others and I'm not talking about Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization .  I'm talking about West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency .

[Kamaji]

Again, incorrect.  Amendment II specifically states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Not so with Amendment I.  There is nothing in Amendment I that guarantees a right to free speech, free exercise, freedom from establishment, freedom of assembly, etc.  Read it for yourself.  There is no equal comparison between Amendment I and II.

If you say so, chief. 

[DCPatriot]

There is still an opinion still to come that could have FAR more effect on our lives in this country than any of the others and I'm not talking about Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization .  I'm talking about West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency .

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

[Bigun]

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

Here you go @DCPatriot:

West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency is all about the federal government's ability to create environmental regulations. The challengers are a group of 27 Republican attorneys general, many from states with traditions in the fossil fuel industry, including West Virginia.

Essentially, they argue that the executive branch of government – which includes the EPA – should not be allowed to set rules and regulations around greenhouse gas emissions. Rather, it should be Congress to do so...

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106375324/supreme-court-abortion-opinion-guns-epa-remain-mexico[/size]

IF they rule as I think they will, it would be the beginning of the end for the administrative state.

[cato potatoe]

So what is the Legislature going to do?  Outlaw the US Constitution?

I wish they would secede, and take their clown show to Canada. 

[DCPatriot]

Here you go @DCPatriot:
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106375324/supreme-court-abortion-opinion-guns-epa-remain-mexico

IF they rule as I think they will, it would be the beginning of the end for the administrative state.

Thanks, @Bigun

Seems like a no-brainer and would expect an 7-2 majority...or bigger.   

[Bigun]

Thanks, @Bigun

Seems like a no-brainer and would expect an 7-2 majority...or bigger.   

It SHOULD be 9-0 but you can bet your @$$ it won't be! @DCPatriot

[Hoodat]

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

There are four separate petitions:

20-1530: 

20-1531

20-1778

20-1780

[Hoodat]

If you say so, chief.

The Amendments themselves say so.

Amendment I - Congress shall make no law . . . . .

Amendment II - Right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The two are different.  There is nothing in Amendment I that says the right to free speech shall not be infringed - only that Congress can't infringe it.  States can make it illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie house.  The US Congress cannot.

[Kamaji]

The Amendments themselves say so.

Amendment I - Congress shall make no law . . . . .

Amendment II - Right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The two are different.  There is nothing in Amendment I that says the right to free speech shall not be infringed - only that Congress can't infringe it.  States can make it illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie house.  The US Congress cannot.

If you say so, chief

[Hoodat]

If you say so, chief

It's not me that says it.  It is what the Amendments say.  I choose to go by what they actually say, not by what you wish it said.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Nothing changes today": New York City Mayor Eric Adams responds to Supreme Court decision to overturn New York concealed gun law, adding "we cannot allow New York to become the wild, wild west."  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1540011419592163330

[Hoodat]

"Nothing changes today": New York City Mayor Eric Adams responds to Supreme Court decision to overturn New York concealed gun law, adding "we cannot allow New York to become the wild, wild west."

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[Kamaji]

It's not me that says it.  It is what the Amendments say.  I choose to go by what they actually say, not by what you wish it said.

If you say so, chief

[Kamaji]

Odds on whether the Dobbs opinion comes out today?

[Cyber Liberty]

Odds on whether the Dobbs opinion comes out today?

Is this the last day of the session?

[Wingnut]

Is this the last day of the session?

Whenever that day is that will be the day.

[Kamaji]

It's after 9am, and the S.C.'s server is still easy to get docs from, and there are no new opinions listed, so my guess is that today will not be the day.

[Hoodat]

I vote 'yes'.  It is rare for them to release decisions on Friday, much less announce it.  But they already announced decision(s) would be released today.

[Bigun]

[Kamaji]

Doesn't look like there'll be any opinions out today.