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Biden's popularity is improving, but pollsters predict it will be short-lived
by Naomi Lim, White House Reporter |
 | March 08, 2022 07:00 AM

President Joe Biden's response to the Russia-Ukraine war has boosted his popularity, yet pollsters warn that the reprieve may be brief before November's midterm elections.

The bloody conflict between Russia and Ukraine, half a world away, has created "a short-term bottom" for public opinion of Biden, according to Suffolk University pollster David Paleologos.

"Prior to the State of the Union address, approval ratings in the high 30s were a regular occurrence," the Suffolk University Political Research Center director told the Washington Examiner. "Since the State of the Union, Biden's approval has settled into the low to mid-40s, suggesting a short-term bump."

"World events" were having a "positive impact" on Biden's public standing, Monmouth University Polling Institute Director Patrick Murray agreed.

"But it also means we are in a period of significant instability where it would be a fool’s errand to predict which way the wind blows next month, next week, or even tomorrow," he said.

Rumors of Biden's improving fortunes were started by a poll published last week that found the president's approval had recovered 8 percentage points after the State of the Union to 47%. The NPR, PBS NewsHour, and Marist research found, too, that satisfaction over Biden's handling of Russia and Ukraine had spiked 18 points to 52% thanks to Democrats and independents.

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Still at just 41.6 in the RCP average and 41 on Rasmussen. Not sure where this “improvement” is being seen.
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Polls mean nothing

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Polls mean nothing

Saying something repeatedly, doesn’t make it so. Saying polls mean nothing is an ignorant viewpoint…sorry if that offends but there is no nice way to say it. What you’re saying is akin to saying “data means nothing”. Polls are data. People often draw the wrong conclusions from data but that error does not invalidate the data itself.
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Saying something repeatedly, doesn’t make it so. Saying polls mean nothing is an ignorant viewpoint…sorry if that offends but there is no nice way to say it. What you’re saying is akin to saying “data means nothing”. Polls are data. People often draw the wrong conclusions from data but that error does not invalidate the data itself.

And thinking polls make any difference is just plain stupid. Go ahead and believe the manipulated lies all you want. Your false data is worthless.
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And thinking polls make any difference is just plain stupid. Go ahead and believe the manipulated lies all you want. Your false data is worthless.

I don’t think polls “make a difference”. Nor do I think temperature gages or measuring sticks make a difference. All they do is measure something…as do polls. What’s “stupid” is being unable to understand that. Data is data…a polling sample’s meaning is predicated on the nature of the sample. Once you know that, the data is properly contextualized and absolutely has meaning…though many misread what that meaning is because they are unwilling to examine the polls internal predicates. It is not the poll that is the problem, it’s the ignorant people who don’t know how to read and/or understand the poll.

Why do you think EVERY campaign conducts its own internal polls….and that these internal polls are generally balanced and good at defining voter sentiment? Simply, it’s because these people…on whatever side of the aisle, know these polls offer very valuable information. The fact that Gallup or Morning Consult deliberately skews its polling does not change this truth….in fact…their need to skew demonstrates that real polling DOES provide valid data. Even a skewed poll gives good data…as long as those reading that poll understand how to account for the “push” that has been deliberately inserted into said poll.

As Conservatives we can’t afford to go all “Ostrich” and ignore polls…we must be smart enough to understand what they ACTUALLY mean rather than what the poll administrator and the media claim it means.
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Fudged data is worse than no data, as the COVID Cops proved over the past 2 years.

You can take a bad poll and define trends from it as long as it’s methodology is consistent. People get confused because organizations generate push polls that come up with absurd results skewed…generally…to the Left. That can be useful too, though.
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You can take a bad poll and define trends from it as long as it’s methodology is consistent. People get confused because organizations generate push polls that come up with absurd results skewed…generally…to the Left. That can be useful too, though.

The only really useful political polls are the ones we'll never see, because they belong to the candidates and are private.  I don't trust any media polls, but I do agree they're worth skimming to get trends.
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The only really useful political polls are the ones we'll never see, because they belong to the candidates and are private.  I don't trust any media polls, but I do agree they're worth skimming to get trends.

I’m right there with ya on that…virtually every one of the public polls is intentionally skewed. Can’t trust any of them. But…you can filter the “skew” and pull valuable data from most polls. But yes, NEVER take them at face value.
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I don’t think polls “make a difference”. Nor do I think temperature gages or measuring sticks make a difference. All they do is measure something…as do polls. What’s “stupid” is being unable to understand that. Data is data…a polling sample’s meaning is predicated on the nature of the sample. Once you know that, the data is properly contextualized and absolutely has meaning…though many misread what that meaning is because they are unwilling to examine the polls internal predicates. It is not the poll that is the problem, it’s the ignorant people who don’t know how to read and/or understand the poll.

Why do you think EVERY campaign conducts its own internal polls….and that these internal polls are generally balanced and good at defining voter sentiment? Simply, it’s because these people…on whatever side of the aisle, know these polls offer very valuable information. The fact that Gallup or Morning Consult deliberately skews its polling does not change this truth….in fact…their need to skew demonstrates that real polling DOES provide valid data. Even a skewed poll gives good data…as long as those reading that poll understand how to account for the “push” that has been deliberately inserted into said poll.

As Conservatives we can’t afford to go all “Ostrich” and ignore polls…we must be smart enough to understand what they ACTUALLY mean rather than what the poll administrator and the media claim it means.
You contradict yourself over and over. Polls are good then polls are bad. The answer is polls mean nothing because they have bad information. Here's another piece of info for you, polls are designed to get a predictable out come. So go ahead and keep being a DCP sheeple and believing in your worthless polls.
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C'mon Man! The only people that this fools popularity is increasing with is OPEC, Iran, Venezuela, N. Korea and really biggly with China.