Should Donald Trump run in 2024?

[roamer_1]

COVID was indeed the worst-case scenario for Trump,  and really there was no way for Trump to win on that, regardless of what he did.    He was cruising to re-election,  any Democrat would have told you that,   before the China Virus came down like Manna from Heaven for the Democrats.

Whatever. It is what it is. I stood with him at the beginning when he was calling it for the bullsh*t it was - But he wound up folding like a 2 dollar lawn chair and allowing the bastards to lead him down the garden path, with a ring in his nose.

I will agree he had few ways out. I will even allow that he may have been buffaloed. There may be reasons. There are no excuses. his actions destroyed millions and opened the way for medical despotism.

That should not be rewarded.

[catfish1957]

I am willing to concede that to some degree... That does not remedy the insane decision to shut it off. He shut it the f**k OFF.

I have been absolutely consistent in that. And proven to be right. NONE of what they have done has helped a damn thing and much of it, especially in urban centers where it was carried forward to the nth degree, likely exacerbated the problem. Social distancing did NOTHING. Masks did NOTHING. And with that shot all to hell, there is no reason at all to shut it down.

That is where I stood then, that is where I stand now - Because it is TRUE.

????? 

Early mortality rates (lethality) was 8-10% in certain areas. I used to have job that had epidemiological reporting to the CDC many years ago.  I knew, practiced, and understood public health guidelines, and disease vector controlling.

God, I hope you aren't in charge if we ever have an Ebola outbreak.

[roamer_1]

From a man who one of his first comments was "I only hire the best"

Trump absolutely sucked in this department.

Think about how many actual conservatives went through his revolving door, spun out into the ether... He freaking wrecked the right.

[LMAO]

I'll give it a try if the opportunity presents itself!

If you get the opportunity, prepare to be entertained.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957

Off topic a bit, but if want to witness Olympic style  mental gymnastics find a leftist who believed Trump should have been impeached during the 2020 Covid period for the deaths and ask if they believe that standard should be now applied to Biden

I have asked a couple who held that view try to explain why it’s different for Biden and it’s Gold medal performance watching them spin

The MSM's hypocricy in COVID dealings Biden v. Trump is epic. We were subjected to Trump death counts on screen for the last 9 months of 2020.  All that miraculously disapperared when Biden took office.  Even though the fact is now more cases have occured on Biden's watch than Trumps.  You sure won't hear that reported on CNN.

[catfish1957]

Think about how many actual conservatives went through his revolving door, spun out into the ether... He freaking wrecked the right.

Wish I could find the article, but I do remember he broke statistics like shortest time per cabinet member, among others.  Trump learned a valuable lesson that what flies in business often gets mucked in the mud of the nasty business of poltics.

[LMAO]

You sure won't hear that reported on CNN.

According to their ratings and viewership levels, there’s a lot that people won’t  hear reported on CNN

[roamer_1]

????? 

Early mortality rates (lethality) was 8-10% in certain areas.

I don't think that's true. I think that was largely fear porn. Reasonable statistical analysis put this in a pretty mild range as pandemics go.

I used to have job that had epidemiological reporting to the CDC many years ago.  I knew, practiced, and understood public health guidelines, and disease vector controlling.

Public health guidelines weren't for shit. Nether were vector controls. What a sh*t show.

God, I hope you aren't in charge if we ever have an Ebola outbreak.

You needn't worry. I will leave the bleating sheep behind and do my own thing - Just as I did this time. Other than destroying my business, and making it damn hard to get things, this whole plandemic has had nearly no impact upon my life and the living of it. I just left that crazy ass townies to their panic and turned left out the driveway instead of right (toward town).

[catfish1957]

According to their ratings and viewership levels, there’s a lot that people won’t  hear reported on CNN

Saw a graphic here somewhere that showed Rogan's podcast is viewed more than the combined viewership of Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.
I don't align with Rogan's politics, but he is a great interviewer.  Again, pretty much the Johnny Carson of times.

[DefiantMassRINO]

2024 GOP Presidential primaries need to be more like Fight Club, and less like Debate Team, to toughen up the final nominee.

GOP has too many airport windsocks and wet noodles.

[roamer_1]

Wish I could find the article, but I do remember he broke statistics like shortest time per cabinet member, among others.  Trump learned a valuable lesson that what flies in business often gets mucked in the mud of the nasty business of poltics.

That's right - But the point in that is the conservatives were ushered in and right the hell back out again (into the ether), but the moderates and Goldman Sachs boys flourished in his administration.

[catfish1957]

GOP has too many airport windsocks and wet noodles.

And Cheneys and Kitzingers.

[dfwgator]

From a man who one of his first comments was "I only hire the best"

Trump absolutely sucked in this department.

He was quite naïve about how things work in DC.

[dfwgator]

Think about how many actual conservatives went through his revolving door, spun out into the ether... He freaking wrecked the right.

What "actual conservatives"?

[catfish1957]

He was quite naïve about how things work in DC.

The hiring of Fauci will go down as the worst presidental hire in history, even if this country lives another 10,000 years.

[roamer_1]

What "actual conservatives"?

Betsy DeVos comes to mind. Sessions. And MT's own Ryan Zinke (who I backed to the 9's)

Here's a list... Figure it out for yourself. I am not going to take the time to itemize the record of all of em to show it.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/

[roamer_1]

The hiring of Fauci will go down as the worst presidental hire in history, even if this country lives another 10,000 years.

TRUE DAT.

[dfwgator]

The hiring of Fauci will go down as the worst presidental hire in history, even if this country lives another 10,000 years.

I thought Fauci was already there,  Trump just didn't fire him.

[catfish1957]

I thought Fauci was already there,  Trump just didn't fire him.

lol...someone hired this piece of shit.

[dfwgator]

lol...someone hired this piece of shit.

Fauci has served under six US presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan

[catfish1957]

Fauci has served under six US presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan

I'll stop digging.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

The hiring of Fauci will go down as the worst presidental hire in history, even if this country lives another 10,000 years.

Thank you, Mike Pence.

[Wingnut]

I'll stop digging.   

Nice!

After all,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2cux_6Rcw

[Right_in_Virginia]

I thought Fauci was already there,  Trump just didn't fire him.

Trump wanted to sideline Fauci...and fire him after Jan 20th.

Mike Pence using his media allies protected Fauci.  Pence even refused --- flat out refused --- Trump's request to pull Fauci off the talk shows.

[DCPatriot]

If you are right, the ultimate narcissist in him will dictate that he milks every moment in the limelight until that point. 

I personally think he will run.  His ego won't let him not.

Come on, @catfish1957 Gimme a break.

"Ego" has nothing to do with it.  More than half the country would vote for him if given the opportunity.

His ability to stay awake and focus for 18 hours each day may have been affected simply by his age.  He alone will know.

He'll have to learn to dictate responsibility, that's for sure.

But having him as POTUS going in as a Lame-Duck?  Priceless!!