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Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
By Jordain Carney - 10/07/21 08:17 PM EDT

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11 Senate Republicans vote YES, along with 50 Democrats, to break a filibuster and hold a final vote on the short-term debt limit deal

Barrasso
Blunt
Capito
Collins
Cornyn
McConnell
Murkowsk
Portman
Rounds
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Thune

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/575881-here-are-the-11-gop-senators-who-helped-advance-the-debt-extension
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2021, 12:39:19 am »
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Lawmakers approved legislation that would provide the Treasury with approximately $480 billion in borrowing authority until Dec. 3.

The 50-48 vote, with no Republicans voting in favor, followed a bipartisan agreement that came after a weekslong standoff.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
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Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
By Jordain Carney - 10/07/21 08:17 PM EDT

Sahil Kapur
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11 Senate Republicans vote YES, along with 50 Democrats, to break a filibuster and hold a final vote on the short-term debt limit deal

Barrasso
Blunt
Capito
Collins
Cornyn
McConnell
Murkowsk
Portman
Rounds
Shelby
Thune

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/575881-here-are-the-11-gop-senators-who-helped-advance-the-debt-extension

The usual suspects.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 12:43:48 am »
The usual suspects.

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The usual suspects.
Beat me to it.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2021, 12:51:20 am »
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Lawmakers approved legislation that would provide the Treasury with approximately $480 billion in borrowing printing up new money authority until Dec. 3.

There, fixed it.  That comes to $8.42 billion per day for the next 57 days.  That's over $3,900 in new debt per fulltime worker in less than two months.  These people are insane.  Our worst enemy couldn't screw over this country as badly as these asshats have been doing for the last decade.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 06:05:29 am »
There, fixed it.  That comes to $8.42 billion per day for the next 57 days.  That's over $3,900 in new debt per fulltime worker in less than two months.  These people are insane.  Our worst enemy couldn't screw over this country as badly as these asshats have been doing for the last decade.

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You just think it is a problem because you don't understand money and how it's handled.

ALL they have to do is  award each full-time worker a one time bonus payment of $3900 to pay the debt off,and the problem is solved!

See how easy this is if you apply yourself?
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 11:44:32 am »
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Senate votes to push debt crisis off until December

The 50-48 vote, with no Republicans voting in favor, followed a bipartisan agreement that came after a weekslong standoff between Republicans and Democrats over government spending and long-term borrowing.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/senate-votes-push-debt-crisis-off-december

So who are we going to believe?  The Hill or Washington Examiner?
Can hatred of Mitch be so great we stop listening?

Seems to me that is how we got here is the first place....

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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 12:15:40 pm »
Ok Mitch Fans,  here, and you know who you are,    where are you?

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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 02:21:02 pm »
Ok Mitch Fans,  here, and you know who you are,    where are you?

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I could easily be wrong on this,but I honestly doubt Mitch,the Bitch" has many fans here. I SUSPECT most people are just dealing with the reality of him holding his position the best they can,and hoping for REAL change REAL soon.

After all,that fat old SOB can't stay in office forever. He is eventually going to either die or retire.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 02:46:21 pm »
@dfwgator

I could easily be wrong on this,but I honestly doubt Mitch,the Bitch" has many fans here. I SUSPECT most people are just dealing with the reality of him holding his position the best they can,and hoping for REAL change REAL soon.

After all,that fat old SOB can't stay in office forever. He is eventually going to either die or retire.

Real change will not come about until there is different leadership in both Houses.  MtB has been a detriment to the party and our country. Yes, he will eventually retire or die; as will Pelosi, Grassley, Feinstein and others. 

This again warrants strong consideration of term limits.  Age limits I believe would be warranted as well, but that could fall under a discrimination issue.

We not only need to implement strict voting/election laws but term limits as well for ALL members of Congress and SCOTUS.  That would resolve a lot of issues, but I think it's far too late.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2021, 02:56:35 pm »
Real change will not come about until there is different leadership in both Houses.  MtB has been a detriment to the party and our country. Yes, he will eventually retire or die; as will Pelosi, Grassley, Feinstein and others. 

This again warrants strong consideration of term limits.  Age limits I believe would be warranted as well, but that could fall under a discrimination issue.

We not only need to implement strict voting/election laws but term limits as well for ALL members of Congress and SCOTUS.  That would resolve a lot of issues, but I think it's far too late.

So consider this... you run off pelosi and mcconnell and get aoc and romney to replace them..... will  you be any better off?

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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2021, 02:58:37 pm »
So consider this... you run off pelosi and mcconnell and get aoc and romney to replace them..... will  you be any better off?

That's the problem. They are all corrupt, every single last one of them.

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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2021, 03:05:07 pm »
So consider this... you run off pelosi and mcconnell and get aoc and romney to replace them..... will  you be any better off?

I understand that completely. AOC is young, with term limits, she at least would only be in office for a limited time.  Romney the same.

I absolutely feel that this country does not have enough true conservatives running to oppose the liberal/marxists and is a huge problem and has been for quite sometime.

Our education system has ensured the liberal indoctrination of our students.   That is another issue that needs to be focused on -- Glenn Beck has been working on that through various different angles and has also come out with a series of books called the "Tuttle Twins" teaching the truth about history to youngsters.  Limbaugh came out with the "Rush Revere" series.

The liberals have been quietly winning on that front for decades; one that I think may be too late to change, however, the silver lining of the pandemic is home schooling.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
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Senate votes to push debt crisis off until December

The 50-48 vote, with no Republicans voting in favor, followed a bipartisan agreement that came after a weekslong standoff between Republicans and Democrats over government spending and long-term borrowing.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/senate-votes-push-debt-crisis-off-december

So who are we going to believe?  The Hill or Washington Examiner?
Can hatred of Mitch be so great we stop listening?

Seems to me that is how we got here is the first place....

They voted for it BEFORE they voted against it.  This is why legislators are absolutely worthless when it comes to executive leadership.  (See Obama, Biden, Kerry, McCain, Gore, etc.)
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2021, 03:13:30 pm »
So consider this... you run off pelosi and mcconnell and get aoc and romney to replace them..... will  you be any better off?

Absolutely.  The point of term limits is to limit the duration of blackmail that is currently in use for all our politicians.  Pelosi has dirt on every single legislator that has been there since the 80s, which means she has had control over them for over three decades.  Term limit those bitches out, and start fresh.
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2021, 03:16:25 pm »
I understand that completely. AOC is young, with term limits, she at least would only be in office for a limited time.  Romney the same.

I absolutely feel that this country does not have enough true conservatives running to oppose the liberal/marxists and is a huge problem and has been for quite sometime.

Our education system has ensured the liberal indoctrination of our students.   That is another issue that needs to be focused on -- Glenn Beck has been working on that through various different angles and has also come out with a series of books called the "Tuttle Twins" teaching the truth about history to youngsters.  Limbaugh came out with the "Rush Revere" series.

The liberals have been quietly winning on that front for decades; one that I think may be too late to change, however, the silver lining of the pandemic is home schooling.

For as long as I can remember, we have elected people to office and then beat the hell out of them for their entire term.  We accuse them of being bought out, traitors,and just plain old crooks and a whole host of other pretty crude things.  It has been going on so long, we have a self fulfilling prophecy, only crooks will run for office.
And now it has bled over into the same accusations being thrown about each of us..... They are not the problem, we are the problem.

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2021, 03:24:24 pm »
For as long as I can remember, we have elected people to office and then beat the hell out of them for their entire term.  We accuse them of being bought out, traitors,and just plain old crooks and a whole host of other pretty crude things.  It has been going on so long, we have a self fulfilling prophecy, only crooks will run for office.
And now it has bled over into the same accusations being thrown about each of us..... They are not the problem, we are the problem.

Repeal the 17th Amendment!
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2021, 03:51:55 pm »
Repeal the 17th Amendment!

So you want senators to be appointed by the governor/state legislature rather than the people?
How would that fix things?

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So you want senators to be appointed by the governor/state legislature rather than the people?
How would that fix things?

Hell YES, I do !!!  The purpose of the Senate is to represent the States.  It was part of the system of checks and balances that our Founding Fathers intended.  The 17th Amendment ended the State's representation in our bicameral legislature.  Now we have two Senators from Georgia who were aided with massive amounts of campaign cash coming from California.  That makes their constituency those big money out-of-state donors instead of the State of Georgia itself as our Founders intended.

The Georgia Legislature is better suited to know how the State of Georgia is represented in our Congress than George Soros a bunch of Hollywood leftists.  There's no reason why Senators from States like Montana, Wyoming, or West Virginia should be holding seats on maritime subcommittees.  But you can bet your ass that they are raking in campaign cash from shipping lobbyists and ILA fat cats.
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Re: Here are the 11 GOP senators who helped advance the debt extension
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2021, 05:11:49 pm »
So you want senators to be appointed by the governor/state legislature rather than the people?
How would that fix things?


Different direct constituency, different view on what is best for the country.  That way, the Senate acts as a check on the populist tendencies of the House, rather than simply acting as a super-House.

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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2021, 05:19:42 pm »
Hell YES, I do !!!  The purpose of the Senate is to represent the States.  It was part of the system of checks and balances that our Founding Fathers intended.  The 17th Amendment ended the State's representation in our bicameral legislature.  Now we have two Senators from Georgia who were aided with massive amounts of campaign cash coming from California.  That makes their constituency those big money out-of-state donors instead of the State of Georgia itself as our Founders intended.

The Georgia Legislature is better suited to know how the State of Georgia is represented in our Congress than George Soros a bunch of Hollywood leftists.  There's no reason why Senators from States like Montana, Wyoming, or West Virginia should be holding seats on maritime subcommittees.  But you can bet your ass that they are raking in campaign cash from shipping lobbyists and ILA fat cats.

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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2021, 05:31:36 pm »
Different direct constituency, different view on what is best for the country.  That way, the Senate acts as a check on the populist tendencies of the House, rather than simply acting as a super-House.

I am not convinced that the congressional focus in on what is best for the country.... Their focus in their party.

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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2021, 05:33:55 pm »
Hell YES, I do !!!  The purpose of the Senate is to represent the States.  It was part of the system of checks and balances that our Founding Fathers intended.  The 17th Amendment ended the State's representation in our bicameral legislature.  Now we have two Senators from Georgia who were aided with massive amounts of campaign cash coming from California.  That makes their constituency those big money out-of-state donors instead of the State of Georgia itself as our Founders intended.

The Georgia Legislature is better suited to know how the State of Georgia is represented in our Congress than George Soros a bunch of Hollywood leftists.  There's no reason why Senators from States like Montana, Wyoming, or West Virginia should be holding seats on maritime subcommittees.  But you can bet your ass that they are raking in campaign cash from shipping lobbyists and ILA fat cats.
So what is to prevent soros to buy the governor?  State legislators?  And totally disregard the state with no accountability what so ever....  I just see it as moving the chairs on the deck of the sinking ship.

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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2021, 05:36:10 pm »
I am not convinced that the congressional focus in on what is best for the country.... Their focus in their party.

You're entitled to your own opinion.

I said different "view" on what's best for the country, so I'm not vouching for whether one is "better" for the country or not.  Right now Senators by and large act like super-Representatives because they are beholden to the same populist tendencies as the House of Representatives is.  That means they are much more likely to go in lock-step with the House.

The one thing to keep in mind is that if the Senators are elected by the state legislatures again, that could cut both ways, because a party that was intent on getting a lock on a state's two senators would then only have to focus on getting a hold on 50% +1 of the state's legislative seats, and not on convincing a majority (or plurality) of the state's residents/voters.