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Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?

Here’s what 19-year-old Lance Cpl. William Bee felt flying into southern Afghanistan on Christmas Day 2001: purely lucky. The U.S. was hitting back at the al-Qaida plotters who had brought down the World Trade Center, and Bee found himself among the first Marines on the ground.

“Excitement,” Bee says these days, of the teenage Bee’s thoughts then. “To be the dudes that got to open it up first.”

In the decade that followed, three more deployments in America’s longest war scoured away that lucky feeling.

For Bee, it came down to a night in 2008 in Afghanistan’s Helmand province. By then a sergeant, Bee held the hand of an American sniper who had just been shot in the head, as a medic sliced open the man’s throat for an airway.

“After that it was like, you know what — ‘F—k these people,’” Bee recounted, of what drove him by his fourth and final Afghan deployment. “I just want to bring my guys back. That’s all I care about. I want to bring them home.”........

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-afghanistan-8d6d6d9e1e7cddbd49caf0b52a40c2e8
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 09:30:40 pm »
For 20 years, it has prevented terrorists from using Afghanistan as a global base, which was the only purpose of the mission from 2001 to 2008.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 10:39:52 pm »
No.

That's my answer.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 10:43:35 pm »
No.

That's my answer.
Nothing follows.

Remember your answer when the next 9/11 event happens because Taliban terrorists with the full blessing of the new Afghan Jihadist government got hold of some Pakistani nuke.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 10:46:18 pm »
For 20 years, it has prevented terrorists from using Afghanistan as a global base, which was the only purpose of the mission from 2001 to 2008.

Obsolete.  Now they have Portland and Chitcago.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 10:53:37 pm »
I will abstain. Ask the guys who were there.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 10:54:31 pm »
Obsolete.  Now they have Portland and Chitcago.

And Dearbornistan!
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2021, 11:59:45 pm »
And Dearbornistan!

Indeed.  Dearborn used to be a decent area and I used to work for FoMoCo headquarters there years ago.  It's such a shame, a lot of history in that area has been ruined and is now a schitzhole. For that matter, I wouldn't move back to Michigan if you paid me.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2021, 12:59:15 am »
Remember your answer when the next 9/11 event happens because Taliban terrorists with the full blessing of the new Afghan Jihadist government got hold of some Pakistani nuke.
Um, I'm with @Fishrrman on this, it's not that we shouldn't have responded it's twenty years of our soldiers lives, blood, limbs and sanity that was totally not worth it. Today we have, and have had, the means to keep track of these animals and destroy them without losing one hair of one soldier let alone a life. They get new leaders we drone them to allah, build a new training base? wait till they have a nice group of fanatics and obliterate it. Wash, rinse, repeat. As for some terrorist getting a Pakistani nuke? They don't need a base or presence in Afghanistan or Iraq for that to be a risk.  I recall from the start it was we are fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here, and apparently we should stay there forever spending our children's lives and our taxes to prop up and save people that have shown no desire to save themselves?

No, no more! Let other countries step up and pay the cost in lives, no more American lives on the ground. It's time to shift to death and destruction of  mutthommad's boy's from the sky. And the only problem I see is the democrats traitorous actions of keeping our borders wide open to allow the terrorists open access to America. We need a border wall, but not like Trump was building, it was better than nothing but we need a wall like Israel's and our troops manning it not dying in someone else's country fighting someone else's religious war.

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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2021, 01:12:21 am »
Obsolete.  Now they have Portland and Chitcago.

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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2021, 01:17:22 am »
I will abstain. Ask the guys who were there.

Excellent comment.  I  personally don't like HIND SIGHT questions.  Everybody has an answer then, but NOT BEFORE.  This is one of those, coulda, shoulda, whoulda  questions.  My pet peeves.  Nothing is resolved, or changed. Just my issue. 
Like, 'Could this have been prevented'?  Could more have been saved.. if'?   

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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2021, 01:23:12 am »
Um, I'm with @Fishrrman on this, it's not that we shouldn't have responded it's twenty years of our soldiers lives, blood, limbs and sanity that was totally not worth it. Today we have, and have had, the means to keep track of these animals and destroy them without losing one hair of one soldier let alone a life. They get new leaders we drone them to allah, build a new training base? wait till they have a nice group of fanatics and obliterate it. Wash, rinse, repeat. As for some terrorist getting a Pakistani nuke? They don't need a base or presence in Afghanistan or Iraq for that to be a risk.  I recall from the start it was we are fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here, and apparently we should stay there forever spending our children's lives and our taxes to prop up and save people that have shown no desire to save themselves?

No, no more! Let other countries step up and pay the cost in lives, no more American lives on the ground. It's time to shift to death and destruction of  mutthommad's boy's from the sky. And the only problem I see is the democrats traitorous actions of keeping our borders wide open to allow the terrorists open access to America. We need a border wall, but not like Trump was building, it was better than nothing but we need a wall like Israel's and our troops manning it not dying in someone else's country fighting someone else's religious war.


Jeh Johnson a muslim and black, has been made head of DHS again by biden. Jeh was the head under obama. Lloyd Austin  is a woke general, who is sec. of defense, and supports BLM and gays, and black pushes c.r.t. on soldiers, is purging all conservatives from military.
Forcing military to get vaccines with or without FDA approval.

 https://banned.video/watch?id=611845d24d3ef950d2c4e4f1




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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2021, 01:40:45 am »

Jeh Johnson a muslim and black, has been made head of DHS again by biden. Jeh was the head under obama. Lloyd Austin  is a woke general, who is sec. of defense, and supports BLM and gays, and black pushes c.r.t. on soldiers, is purging all conservatives from military.
Forcing military to get vaccines with or without FDA approval.

 https://banned.video/watch?id=611845d24d3ef950d2c4e4f1

Mayorkas is gone?
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2021, 02:12:37 am »
Jeh Johnson is the one who put kids in cages.
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Re: Longest war: Were America’s decades in Afghanistan worth it?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2021, 02:30:52 am »
Mayorkas is gone?

Opposition To COVID Measures Defined As Terrorism By Biden DHS. (That is the same muslim, obama had as head oF DHS. )

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Fauci wants us to take BOOSTER shots forever! 

https://banned.video/watch?id=611845d24d3ef950d2c4e4f1