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Re: AZ Audit
« Reply #200 on: October 17, 2021, 07:40:48 pm »
Of course that looks really good.  Can't find it here....go find it somewhere....it has to be somewhere.

They already found plenty of fraud in Maricopa County.  More than enough of it to sway the election for the entire state.  But then you knew that already.


https://www.newsweek.com/trump-switches-arizona-audit-focus-pima-county-demands-loss-biden-decertified-1639613

Still posting the lies of left-wing news articles, I see.

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Re: AZ Audit
« Reply #201 on: October 17, 2021, 07:50:58 pm »
I guess the audit is like this thread.....dead quiet.

There is nothing in the news I could find except that DJT is now looking at PIMA county as a place of potential fraud.

Of course that looks really good.  Can't find it here....go find it somewhere....it has to be somewhere.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-switches-arizona-audit-focus-pima-county-demands-loss-biden-decertified-1639613

And all the alleged wrongdoings are getting nothing from anybody that I can see.  I searched the net and most articles are weeks old (and all saying what a sham the audit was.....again...don't agree....just saying that is what is out there).

Nothing new.

Time to stick a fork in it ?
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This is at the core of injustice: the innocent are prosecuted, the guilty walk free, despite evidence which proves their guilt because those who should be prosecuting them are in on the crime.
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« Reply #202 on: October 18, 2021, 04:19:30 pm »
The unfortunate reality is that despite incontrovertible anomalies which can be attributed to certain actors and which were of more than sufficient magnitude to change the results of the election, it is those who decide to prosecute or not prosecute a crime who decide whether anything will be done about that crime.
This is at the core of injustice: the innocent are prosecuted, the guilty walk free, despite evidence which proves their guilt because those who should be prosecuting them are in on the crime.
There is no other excuse for nonfeasance.

Stick a fork in it?

Oh, Hell, NO!

The only thing good men need do to let evil prosper is nothing.

A different conversation.....that we agree on.

The audit was just another "dust in the eye" effort.

However, the entire superstructure that supports this lack of transparency must be taken down.

Getting good prosecution means getting the right people in place.....something we seem to suck at doing.

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« Reply #203 on: October 18, 2021, 04:21:55 pm »
They already found plenty of fraud in Maricopa County.  More than enough of it to sway the election for the entire state.  But then you knew that already.


Still posting the lies of left-wing news articles, I see.



You don't see anything.

I only open your ignored posts as a reminder that you are not what I want to become.

Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ?  If not, then the article isn't a lie and Trump is going after PIMA county.

And that's a lie ?  Hilarious.


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« Reply #204 on: October 20, 2021, 12:00:03 pm »
If anyone can supply some good conservative analysis of the audit, I would be grateful.

All I can find on the net falls in line with the same stupid articles I've already posted (as being stupid....).

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« Reply #205 on: October 21, 2021, 02:35:32 am »
I only open your ignored posts as a reminder that you are not what I want to become.

A left-wing troll?


Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ?  If not, then the article isn't a lie

Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit.  Harrington didn't write the article.  But Harrington is correct in saying that Pima County needs to be audited.  The numbers there alone show an abnormal number of ballots that are not consistent with historical voting patterns.  The same type fraud that was proven to have occurred in Maricopa is highly probable to have occurred in Pima.

So it all comes down to whether or not you find election fraud acceptable.
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« Reply #206 on: October 21, 2021, 06:14:54 pm »
A left-wing troll?

You are not a left wing troll.

You are a moron.

Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit.  Harrington didn't write the article.  But Harrington is correct in saying that Pima County needs to be audited. 

Case in point.

I don't recall stating she wrote the article.  And I didn't.

I did ask you if she said what the articles stated.  Then that is true and claim of lies is garbage.

The numbers there alone show an abnormal number of ballots that are not consistent with historical voting patterns.  The same type fraud that was proven to have occurred in Maricopa is highly probable to have occurred in Pima.

Right over your head.

If those numbers were true, then there should have been as much emphasis on the PIMA as Maricopa from the start.

As I said, this looks like a freaking witch hunt.  And right now, there is nobody leading the charge for your POV. 

And the people who are out in front are sounding more and more like you.....fanatics.

So it all comes down to whether or not you find election fraud acceptable.

We know that you've proven it in your own mind. 

Good thing you don't matter.

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« Reply #207 on: October 21, 2021, 06:16:58 pm »
2nd call for any analysis from reliable conservative sources on the audit.

So far....nothing.

There is plenty of other B.S. on the net regarding the audit.  Talk about a pack of banshees.

Overall, it is seems to be becoming yesterday's news.

What's sad is that the issue of election integrity might well fade with it if we are not careful.

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Re: AZ Audit
« Reply #208 on: October 21, 2021, 06:24:53 pm »


If those numbers were true, then there should have been as much emphasis on the PIMA as Maricopa from the start.


Populations:
Maricopa county: 4.4 million people
Pima County: 1.04 million people.

The same percentage of fraud would yield roughly four times as many invalid votes in Maricopa as Pima County.

That might mean the difference between exposing fraud which could be of election changing consequence vs fraud which was only marginal. You cast your nets where the most fish are.

There were enough questionable votes in Maricopa County alone to question the results, over three (almost four) times the margin of "victory".
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« Reply #209 on: October 21, 2021, 06:27:47 pm »
Populations:
Maricopa county: 4.4 million people
Pima County: 1.04 million people.

The same percentage of fraud would yield roughly four times as many invalid votes in Maricopa as Pima County.

That might mean the difference between exposing fraud which could be of election changing consequence vs fraud which was only marginal. You cast your nets where the most fish are.

There were enough questionable votes in Maricopa County alone to question the results, over three (almost four) times the margin of "victory".

I get that.

What I am saying is that since it wasn't at least raised and then put on the back burner, it looks like a hunt.

We know there is fraud.  If we look long enough and in enough places....we'll find it.

That gets you painted as stupid.

Which is what is going on.

Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?

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« Reply #210 on: October 21, 2021, 06:32:06 pm »
I get that.

What I am saying is that since it wasn't at least raised and then put on the back burner, it looks like a hunt.

We know there is fraud.  If we look long enough and in enough places....we'll find it.

That gets you painted as stupid.

Which is what is going on.

Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?

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Re: AZ Audit
« Reply #211 on: October 21, 2021, 06:33:19 pm »
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Re: AZ Audit
« Reply #212 on: October 21, 2021, 06:35:48 pm »
Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?

You have been provided many, many links.  I think the problem is you consider all "conservative" sources bad, because you ignore them and then repeat the same tired leftist cliches.

You remind me of another Member we had some time ago.  Considered himself a lover of Jazz.
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« Reply #213 on: October 21, 2021, 07:47:49 pm »
Hey @HikerGuy83!  Do you need a rest from TBR for calling Members "stupid?"

You can do whatever you like.

However, if you read my post closely, you'll realize I didn't call anyone, in particular, stupid.

If you need me to further clarrify I will.

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« Reply #214 on: October 21, 2021, 07:50:59 pm »
You have been provided many, many links.  I think the problem is you consider all "conservative" sources bad, because you ignore them and then repeat the same tired leftist cliches.

You remind me of another Member we had some time ago.  Considered himself a lover of Jazz.

1. I have not.

2. I have quoted sources that care conservative myself so you drop the prejudiced crap.

3. I don't quote leftist cliche's.  I state what I think is real.  And the audit has made fools of the GOP, and the banshees are in high gear.

4. The fact that you don't seem to like it when conservatives (or in this case fanatics) are called out isn't my problem.

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« Reply #215 on: October 21, 2021, 07:59:02 pm »
Jazzhead reborn.
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« Reply #216 on: October 21, 2021, 08:00:29 pm »
You are not a left wing troll.

You are a moron.

. . .

And the people who are out in front are sounding more and more like you.....fanatics.

That gets you painted as stupid.


Moron...fanatic...painted as stupid.  Your denial rings rather hollow.  So how 'bout you just knock off the personal attacks?  I don't care that you prevaricated when I asked you to stop calling people, I'll just get impatient if you do that after this post.

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« Reply #217 on: October 21, 2021, 08:01:45 pm »
Jazzhead reborn.

"Jazzhead Revisited."  If we pitch it to the BBC as high brow drama they might just buy it...
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« Reply #218 on: October 21, 2021, 09:01:33 pm »
Jazzhead reborn.
Meh, more like recycled.

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« Reply #219 on: October 21, 2021, 09:05:59 pm »
Moron...fanatic...painted as stupid.  Your denial rings rather hollow.  So how 'bout you just knock off the personal attacks?  I don't care that you prevaricated when I asked you to stop calling people, I'll just get impatient if you do that after this post.

Capisce?

Don't really care what you get.

You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.

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« Reply #220 on: October 21, 2021, 10:15:11 pm »
Don't really care what you get.

You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.

Now THAT is an offer you can't refuse @Cyber Liberty
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« Reply #221 on: October 21, 2021, 10:28:05 pm »
Don't really care what you get.

You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.

Now that's just silly.  Why deprive our good members of a chew toy?

I am most distressed I wasted so much time trying to explain AZ politics to you, and you have rubbished my attempts. 
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« Reply #222 on: October 21, 2021, 10:36:12 pm »
Don't really care what you get.

You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.


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« Reply #223 on: October 22, 2021, 12:35:47 am »
I don't recall stating she wrote the article.  And I didn't.

I did ask you if she said what the articles stated.  Then that is true and claim of lies is garbage.

Here is what you posted:

Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ?  If not, then the article isn't a lie

Your conclusion is irrational.  You concede that Harrington did not write the article, yet you argue that an article not written by Harrington is true because Harrington told the truth.  Like I said, logic is not your strong suit.

Here is the part of the article I am referring to:

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The former president and his supporters have not provided evidence substantiating this extraordinary allegation

This is pure unadulterated bovine excrement.  The Election 2020 thread alone contains mountains of evidence substantiating this - evidence that you willfully choose to ignore.
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« Reply #224 on: October 22, 2021, 12:43:18 pm »
You can do whatever you like.

However, if you read my post closely, you'll realize I didn't call anyone, in particular, stupid.

If you need me to further clarrify I will.

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