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For the last time, they were counting mail-in votes.... 


Here is the #1 true fact:


Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden fair and square.  Maybe if Trump ran a better campaign he would have won especially in Georgia and Arizona.

Well, your facts are far different than mine @kevindavis    End of discussion.
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Sure He ran such a crappy campaign he gained 12 million voters over 2016. And that with the fraud.

He did but he motivated more people to vote against him than for him. He got lucky with Hillary.

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For the last time, they were counting mail-in votes.... 


Here is the #1 true fact:


Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden fair and square.  Maybe if Trump ran a better campaign he would have won especially in Georgia and Arizona.

I don’t believe that #1 true fact at all.
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For the last time, they were counting mail-in votes....  Here is the #1 true fact:  Trump lost to Sleepy Joe Biden fair and square.  Maybe if Trump ran a better campaign he would have won especially in Georgia and Arizona.

You're very unimformed @kevindavis   ---  And, yet you post "facts".   88devil

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I don’t believe that #1 true fact at all.

I'm with @Lando Lincoln .  The idea that Biden won "fair and square" is not credible given what we all saw.
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Sure He ran such a crappy campaign he gained 12 million voters over 2016. And that with the fraud.

You are of course right @skeeter but there are those that will never, ever see President Trump as anything but a bad orange man.  So be it.

As I have stated many, many times, one can chose to be on the side that tries to move this country in a positive direction, or one can be on the side that continues the destruction of our country.
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He did but he motivated more people to vote against him than for him. He got lucky with Hillary.
A guy who can barely stay awake during his own rallies received a historic number of votes because voters just hated the guy who brought us a booming economy & secured the border etc etc, because they blamed him for a virus coming out of a "Chinese wet market".

You go ahead and continue to swallow that one.

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I'm headed to the "Lounge"   happy77  :beer:  Time for pie, cake, ice cream, popcorn.... :pop41:
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This is exactly why this “election was stolen bs” is so dangerous and counterprocductive.

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You have that completely backwards. What is "dangerous and counterproductive" is to let them get away with it.
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Sure He ran such a crappy campaign he gained 12 million voters over 2016. And that with the fraud.


Two different elections.
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Sure He ran such a crappy campaign he gained 12 million voters over 2016. And that with the fraud.

@skeeter   @kevindavis

Who knew that "new math" and "RINO math" were the same thing?

Learn something new every day.....
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So all 5 f'n swing states at the same GD time start reversing their electoral trend at the exact moment all 5 states paused counting?  Geez are you that freakin' naive?

You represent the Mike Pence and Liz Cheney wing of our party well.  Congrats.

Am I to understand you do not accept that Biden was entitled to all of those mail-in ballots?

Y'know when you think of it, those who imply that of course the vote totals turned around after the mail in ballots started being counted are tacitly admitting there was fraud.

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Two different elections.
YES. During the second one we had a record and knew Trump intended to follow up on his promises.

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He did but he motivated more people to vote against him than for him. He got lucky with Hillary.


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You must work for Snopes.

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Facts can be such squiggly,wiggly things,it's easy for them to slip from your fingers.
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Two different elections.

First election




Second election

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He did but he motivated more people to vote against him than for him. He got lucky with Hillary.

So Joe Biden, who stayed hidden in his basement for months on end somehow ran a better campaign than Hillary Clinton?  And Biden somehow excited more voters to show up and vote for him even though Trump was drawing even bigger crowds at his rallies than in 2016?  Yeah, right.
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Facts can be such squiggly,wiggly things,it's easy for them to slip from your fingers.
@sneakypete apparently some here have hooves for hands.

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So Joe Biden, who stayed hidden in his basement for months on end somehow ran a better campaign than Hillary Clinton?  And Biden somehow excited more voters to show up and vote for him even though Trump was drawing even bigger crowds at his rallies than in 2016?  Yeah, right.

@Hoodat

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Magic,ah tells ya!
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So Joe Biden, who stayed hidden in his basement for months on end somehow ran a better campaign than Hillary Clinton?  And Biden somehow excited more voters to show up and vote for him even though Trump was drawing even bigger crowds at his rallies than in 2016?  Yeah, right.

Joe Biden was more likable than Hillary, yes.

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A guy who can barely stay awake during his own rallies received a historic number of votes because voters just hated the guy who brought us a booming economy & secured the border etc etc, because they blamed him for a virus coming out of a "Chinese wet market".

You go ahead and continue to swallow that one.

A lot of people had problems with Trump's personality.

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@skeeter   @kevindavis

Who knew that "new math" and "RINO math" were the same thing?

Learn something new every day.....
The Democrats use toilet paper math to count votes...12=96 and all that. In the end, it all ends up the same...covered with ...
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A lot of people had problems with Trump's personality.
And then there were those of us who recognize that being loveable and all that doesn't get the job done, especially when dealing with some of the most notorious badasses on the planet.

How's that foreign policy working so far, now?
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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