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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #200 on: May 21, 2021, 10:39:31 pm »
That picture resulted registered  a 6.0 on the Richter Scale at TOS.  Cruz is still the anti-Christ at that toilet of a site, and the owner doesnt even try to tone them down.

Well, then we will witness the complete destruction of our Republic and a dictatorship/marxism, socialism and perhaps communism.

Not saying that Cruz and Trump are the only games in town, but folks, in case no one hasn't noticed, there's not too many left capable of unseating the liberal stranglehold and inserting a renewed govt'.

All because people are stubborn, or refuse to look at reality, or can't admit that they were wrong.

Oh, but there's always next election cycle right?   :silly:
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #201 on: May 21, 2021, 10:39:52 pm »
Hey @corbe !

Hw about a poll of who is considered to be conservative enough to be the next GOP Candidate for POTUS/VPOTUS?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #202 on: May 21, 2021, 10:58:41 pm »
Principled conservatism would not tolerate stolen elections. Period. Take a powder, willya? Or a Midol.

I know that.

No principled conservative looked at the field and opposed Trump.

Anyone who opposed Trump after he was nominated was not a conservative, not by any meaningful measure.

And real principled conservatives, such as myself, of course, do not tolerate stolen elections.   RINOs do.   Never Trumpers do. 
The GOP is not the party leadership.  The GOP is the party MEMBERSHIP.   The members need to kick the leaders out if they leaders are going the wrong way.  No coddling allowed.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #203 on: May 21, 2021, 11:00:27 pm »
We'll have to satisfy ourselves by telling stories to the grandkids about what it was like living in a (relatively)free country. Maybe some of it will stick.

Those kids will be trained to turn you in.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #204 on: May 21, 2021, 11:52:10 pm »
As I said to CL, I really don't know what I'd do --- and if HR1 passes I probably would just take my marbles and go home, what the hell would be the point?

But, that pesky little "not even born in the US" precedent -- well, it truly is profoundly upsetting for me.

I'm hoping Cruz does the honorable thing and not force millions of Americans to make the kind of Sophie's Choice he'd force on us.  I say "honorable" because I watched Cruz several times, in different venues, address his citizenship in 2015-2016  --- and I am convinced to my soul he knows he's not a NBC.

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Let's cut to the quick here:  You want Cruz out because he pissed Trump off in 2016, never mind all the things Cruz has done since.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #205 on: May 22, 2021, 12:10:18 am »
I know that.

No principled conservative looked at the field and opposed Trump.

Anyone who opposed Trump after he was nominated was not a conservative, not by any meaningful measure.


Twenty friggin TRILLION dollars. Believe me, plenty of principled fiscal conservatives had plenty of reason not to endorse Tumpy.

Shutting off the country - Plenty of principled libertarian minded conservatives would have a tough time swallowing that.

Plenty of liberalism was written into law in those omnibus packages with his signature on them. So Plenty for Conservatives to be pissed about.

Because as it turns out, it's just SOSDD. Again.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #206 on: May 22, 2021, 12:11:32 am »
Let's cut to the quick here:  You want Cruz out because he pissed Trump off in 2016, never mind all the things Cruz has done since.

It's not that, @Cyber Liberty   Not all of it.

We need a candidate that is able to draw American registered voters from BOTH Parties.  He's been made a caricature by the mainstream media, and that will only hurt him because well...he's no Donald Trump.

Maybe DeSantis...because he's made Florida Great Again?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #207 on: May 22, 2021, 12:21:54 am »
It's not that, @Cyber Liberty   Not all of it.

We need a candidate that is able to draw American registered voters from BOTH Parties.  He's been made a caricature by the mainstream media, and that will only hurt him because well...he's no Donald Trump.

Maybe DeSantis...because he's made Florida Great Again?

Bad idea @DCPatriot If you try to draw from the liberals you will not have the Conservatives.

And the other way around. Take your pick. No more moderates.

As for swelling the ranks, how that has always happened on the Right is by appealing to the disaffected... Not appealing to the Democrats. The formula for that is orthodox Conservatism.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #208 on: May 22, 2021, 12:22:11 am »
It's not that, @Cyber Liberty   Not all of it.

We need a candidate that is able to draw American registered voters from BOTH Parties.  He's been made a caricature by the mainstream media, and that will only hurt him because well...he's no Donald Trump.

Maybe DeSantis...because he's made Florida Great Again?

Sorry @DCPatriot, if anyone tried to make Cruz a caricature it was Trump with "Lyin' Ted."  And if anyone *has been made* a caricature by the established media (they are in no sense "mainstream") it's Trump.

Having said that, Cruz might never fully recover from Trump's character assassination, and DeSantis might be the more electable of the two.  That's not a criticism of Cruz, it's a criticism of Trump.  Any leader who weakens his team in the long run to strengthen himself in the short run is a piss-poor leader.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #209 on: May 22, 2021, 12:22:17 am »
It's not that, @Cyber Liberty   Not all of it.

We need a candidate that is able to draw American registered voters from BOTH Parties.  He's been made a caricature by the mainstream media, and that will only hurt him because well...he's no Donald Trump.

Maybe DeSantis...because he's made Florida Great Again?
ANY candidate in opposition to what we have in the White House will be made a caricature by the MSM.
Most of them are Communist Lite, pander to the Left, or are globalist stooges.
That leaves darned few to work with, and whomever is nominated, or even in the running for a nomination will be splattered with crap by the MSM like folks downwind of an explosion in a dungheap. Expect it, it's what makes the MSM "relevant" to their viewers.

Frankly, damned few watch  that dreck for anything but the adrenaline rush (better wake-up than coffee, except I prefer coffee), if at all, who would consider voting for anyone even remotely resembling a Conservative.

The MSM is the narrative-reinforcing echo chamber of the Left, replete with the same phrases and buzzwords and story angles within a 10 minute cycle between commercials. So I really, really, don't give a damn what the MSM has to say.

They are revealed, time and again, as liars who have fabricated sources, stand in front of blocks aflame and call what is going on a "mostly peaceful protest" and at best are a sick parody of anything resembling an outlet for information. Anyone who is going to wake up and vote on the Right can see that.  The rest just haven't been mugged enough (or maybe they like it).
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #210 on: May 22, 2021, 12:24:33 am »
Let's cut to the quick here:  You want Cruz out because he pissed Trump off in 2016, never mind all the things Cruz has done since.

Nailed it!
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« Reply #211 on: May 22, 2021, 12:25:55 am »
Sorry @DCPatriot, if anyone tried to make Cruz a caricature it was Trump with "Lyin' Ted."  And if anyone *has been made* a caricature by the established media (they are in no sense "mainstream") it's Trump.

Having said that, Cruz might never fully recover from Trump's character assassination, and DeSantis might be the more electable of the two.  That's not a criticism of Cruz, it's a criticism of Trump.  Any leader who weakens his team in the long run to strengthen himself in the short run is a piss-poor leader.

Every nasty snide remark the left aims at Ted Cruz is courtesy of the Trump campaign back in 2015-16.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #212 on: May 22, 2021, 12:26:25 am »
Bad idea @DCPatriot If you try to draw from the liberals you will not have the Conservatives.

And the other way around. Take your pick. No more moderates.

As for swelling the ranks, how that has always happened on the Right is by appealing to the disaffected... Not appealing to the Democrats. The formula for that is orthodox Conservatism.

Exactly!
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #213 on: May 22, 2021, 12:26:33 am »
The MSM is the narrative-reinforcing echo chamber of the Left, replete with the same phrases and buzzwords and story angles within a 10 minute cycle between commercials. So I really, really, don't give a damn what the MSM has to say.

They are revealed, time and again, as liars who have fabricated sources, stand in front of blocks aflame and call what is going on a "mostly peaceful protest" and at best are a sick parody of anything resembling an outlet for information. Anyone who is going to wake up and vote on the Right can see that.  The rest just haven't been mugged enough (or maybe they like it).

And here I fully credit Trump, Sara Huckabee Sanders, and of course Kayleigh McEnany, for treating the media exactly like what they are.  Whoever is the R nominee in 2024 needs to continue with no apology this aspect of Trumpism.
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« Reply #214 on: May 22, 2021, 12:28:01 am »
Every nasty snide remark the left aims at Ted Cruz is courtesy of the Trump campaign back in 2015-16.

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« Reply #215 on: May 22, 2021, 12:30:30 am »
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I'd probably leave it blank and vote down ticket @Cyber Liberty

But I really don't know.  It's way too early.  Let's see what happens with HR 1.

That’s pretty damn hypocritical coming from one of the loudest voices on TBR during the 2016 elections chastising people for either leaving the presidential vote blank or writing in Cruz. 

Good job RIV…Kamala Harris appreciates your vote in 2024. 
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Remember Reagan's First Commandment..............................

Yup sure do. 
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #217 on: May 22, 2021, 12:31:14 am »
Bad idea @DCPatriot If you try to draw from the liberals you will not have the Conservatives.

And the other way around. Take your pick. No more moderates.

As for swelling the ranks, how that has always happened on the Right is by appealing to the disaffected... Not appealing to the Democrats. The formula for that is orthodox Conservatism.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #218 on: May 22, 2021, 12:36:54 am »
Sorry @DCPatriot, if anyone tried to make Cruz a caricature it was Trump with "Lyin' Ted."  And if anyone *has been made* a caricature by the established media (they are in no sense "mainstream") it's Trump.

Having said that, Cruz might never fully recover from Trump's character assassination, and DeSantis might be the more electable of the two.  That's not a criticism of Cruz, it's a criticism of Trump.  Any leader who weakens his team in the long run to strengthen himself in the short run is a piss-poor leader.

Rather, Cruz may never recover from what he did to overcome that character assassination. My own grief against him was signing onto all that spending. That ain't a TEA Party guy. Which is what he was.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #219 on: May 22, 2021, 12:38:13 am »
Bad idea @DCPatriot If you try to draw from the liberals you will not have the Conservatives.

And the other way around. Take your pick. No more moderates.

As for swelling the ranks, how that has always happened on the Right is by appealing to the disaffected... Not appealing to the Democrats. The formula for that is orthodox Conservatism.
And there it is!

(Americans have been saying this since the TEA party movement and before.)

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #220 on: May 22, 2021, 12:38:58 am »
It's not that, @Cyber Liberty   Not all of it.

We need a candidate that is able to draw American registered voters from BOTH Parties.  He's been made a caricature by the mainstream media, and that will only hurt him because well...he's no Donald Trump.

Maybe DeSantis...because he's made Florida Great Again?

DeSantis, DeSantis, DeSantis .... he's relatively new in the political arena. 

There are some things about him that shouldn't be overlooked:

#1 He has authorized the Department of Health to detain and quarantine at random anyone that they deem to be a health risk.

#2 The unemployment system was royally screwed up. Granted he may or may not have inherited the little gem, but after spending millions, promising it was fixed, appointing people and then firing them, then appointing yet another person, the system still absolutely fails.

#3 He has come across like he's the saviour of the Everglades and is supposedly restoring it, stopping the dumping into the Caloosahatchee river, etc.   He has not.  We have worse run off now than we've ever had.  Unless he's willing to fight big Sugar's money, the issue will never be resolved.  Those of us who've lived down here awhile know he's full of b.s.

#4  Before being a governor he had absolutely zero political experience.  No other record to really check. 

Sure, DeSantis seems better than most.  He's doing some good things.  That doesn't make him the perfect candidate. For one, his personality is very lack luster and he   ....'um's a lot and doesn't make him sound real intelligent.

He's not all that.

Unfortunately, we now have all of 3 possibilities; Trump, Cruz or DeSantis?  Wow.  It's truly sad.  Noem is out because of her stance on  illegal immigration and favors a pathway for citizenship.

So @DCPatriot I think we need to start realizing the GOP has no perfect candidate.

Trump is aging and had his chance early on to build that wall when he had a FULL majority, Cruz is supposedly hated, and DeSantis is very new with flaws.  Helluva choice don't ya think?

Time for reality to set in.  The GOP's prospects of gaining ground in 2022, especially if HB 1  passes is slim to none, them winning in 2024 is even slimmer.  The GOPe will certainly keep people buffaloed (for those willing to buy into the hype) with Mittens front and center running for an impossible win.

Feel better?

IMHO, the absolute best shot is to revamp the electoral process at the local and state level and get behind BOTH Trump and Cruz. IF that's even going to be a reality. I have nothing more than my gut to go on, but I think the two of them are going to work together to seat someone.   

Continuing to moan and belly ache about Trump and Cruz and the kung fu fight (when I don't think either of them is going to run) is going to get the GOP absolutely nowhere. 

Again, and you can put me on ignore, or do whatever, for the repeat, but either we ALL come together and figure a way forward OR we can continue to watch our Republic crumble. 

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #221 on: May 22, 2021, 12:40:56 am »
And here I fully credit Trump, Sara Huckabee Sanders, and of course Kayleigh McEnany, for treating the media exactly like what they are.  Whoever is the R nominee in 2024 needs to continue with no apology this aspect of Trumpism.

That's fairly said.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #222 on: May 22, 2021, 12:41:29 am »
Rather, Cruz may never recover from what he did to overcome that character assassination. My own grief against him was signing onto all that spending. That ain't a TEA Party guy. Which is what he was.
I would be backing him to the 9's if he'd remained what he was.

Fair point well made.  But in pure mass electability terms, FAR more people remember Trump's character assassination than Cruz's failure at fiscal discipline.  And most Conservatives lack your uncompromising rigor my friend.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #223 on: May 22, 2021, 12:42:50 am »
And here I fully credit Trump, Sara Huckabee Sanders, and of course Kayleigh McEnany, for treating the media exactly like what they are.  Whoever is the R nominee in 2024 needs to continue with no apology this aspect of Trumpism.


...hmmm @SamHouston ... 2 possibilities for 2024 - Sanders and McEnany!  Thoughts??
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #224 on: May 22, 2021, 12:47:48 am »
Fair point well made.  But in pure mass electability terms, FAR more people remember Trump's character assassination than Cruz's failure at fiscal discipline.  And most Conservatives lack your uncompromising rigor my friend.

Perhaps, but Cruz's natural base is TEA. He was the TEA Party's golden boy. He was the tip of the spear. You cannot tell me they didn't take notice just like me.