Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right

[Hoodat]

The consensus was inadequate "fire in the belly."  He simply didn't want to be POTUS badly enough to run the entire race.

IIRC his children were very young for his age.  He might have recognized that they would not have a lot of years with him so decided to focus on family instead.  That's just my personal speculation.

Thompson did play a President in a movie once.  But considering that Thompson would not have survived a second term, he may have had known health issues.

Here he is in his last movie that was released after his death:  https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1091876121?ref_=nm_rvd_vi_1

[corbe]

   I liked Fred too. Didn't he drop out right before Super Tuesday which everyone predicted he would come in 2nd or 3rd?  Perplexing to me also, at the time.

[libertybele]

Sweetie---you do understand that this was a contest for the most coveted prize on the planet --- do you not?  And the alliances shifted back and forth during the primaries, as they often do.  It was a big, beautiful slugfest. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-JwJcF9wg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhBquoaSQRg

As for Rubio, it wasn't the first time that he out and out lied.  The promises that he made to get him into the Senate seat ... well he absolutely lied and then joined the Gang of Eight.  He was before that the GOP's Golden Boy and his supporters quickly ditched him.  He didn't even win his own state.  Pretty pathetic.

Rubio can't be trusted.  He flip flops back and forth and goes whichever way the wind is blowing that day.  He's a RINO. Lost my vote.

[catfish1957]

   I liked Fred too. Didn't he drop out right before Super Tuesday which everyone predicted he would come in 2nd or 3rd?  Perplexing to me also, at the time.

I overwhelming remember how badly we conservatves hated McCain even before his dimocrat reacharound tactics. I see @roamer_1 liked Hunter.  I did too, but saw Duncan never ever getting close enough to getting any traction to challenge McStain. All of our eggs were in Fred's basket, and it did not end well. 

[catfish1957]

Rubio can't be trusted.  He flip flops back and forth and goes whichever way the wind is blowing that day.  He's a RINO. Lost my vote.

As far as I am concerned, Little Marco's greatest accomplishment was marrying a Miami Dolphins cheerleader.   

[corbe]

As far as I am concerned, Little Marco's greatest accomplishment was marrying a Miami Dolphins cheerleader.   

    I always thought she was his beard. @catfish1957

[catfish1957]

    I always thought she was his beard. @catfish1957

That's crossed my mind too.

[roamer_1]

I overwhelming remember how badly we conservatves hated McCain even before his dimocrat reacharound tactics. I see @roamer_1 liked Hunter.  I did too, but saw Duncan never ever getting close enough to getting any traction to challenge McStain. All of our eggs were in Fred's basket, and it did not end well.

I think Hunter would have done just fine. He'd already won WY, hands down, and had they not stifled him - literally kicking him out of the debates - in the Carolinas, he'd have risen.

Thompson was not all that conservative, but he was famous.

It is the same argument today - Cruz at least was the penultimate conservative - The point of the spear for the TEA Party... But Tumpy, who was not all that conservative, was famous.

I will never understand that pull toward meaningless fame.

[Hoodat]

.  .  .  and had they not stifled him - literally kicking him out of the debates - in the Carolinas  .  .  .

They did the same thing to Alan Keyes in Atlanta in 1996.  Except with Keyes, they slapped the hand cuffs on him and hauled him away in the back seat of a police car.

[roamer_1]

They did the same thing to Alan Keyes in Atlanta in 1996.  Except with Keyes, they slapped the hand cuffs on him and hauled him away in the back seat of a police car.

I have long admired Keyes. One of the finest orators I have ever known. And one of the few I respect out of the N.E. His Conservatism is never in question. Dubya's first election primary, I was all in for Keyes.

But, whether a device of the media, or IRL, he has a penchant for pageantry in the absurd. It gets him media attention, but I don;t think it useful. Too bad. He's one I would have voted for anytime, all the way along. I can't believe how he has been defamed. And that folks buy into that.

[txradioguy]

I think he found out he was sick.

That's what I was thinking too.  that's about the time he found out he had cancer.

[HoustonSam]

I have long admired Keyes. One of the finest orators I have ever known. And one of the few I respect out of the N.E. His Conservatism is never in question. Dubya's first election primary, I was all in for Keyes.

But, whether a device of the media, or IRL, he has a penchant for pageantry in the absurd. It gets him media attention, but I don;t think it useful. Too bad. He's one I would have voted for anytime, all the way along. I can't believe how he has been defamed. And that folks buy into that.

I always liked him too, and I agree he needed to find an off switch for the dramatic pretense.  He seemed to lack self-awareness about it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I always liked him too, and I agree he needed to find an off switch for the dramatic pretense.  He seemed to lack self-awareness about it.

I don't know if you were a denizen of FR back in the day, but they had a Member, "clintonsaliar" who worked for Keyes for years.  We've had dinner with her a couple of times.

[HoustonSam]

I don't know if you were a denizen of FR back in the day, but they had a Member, "clintonsaliar" who worked for Keyes for years.  We've had dinner with her a couple of times.

I began lurking there during Bush/Gore 2000, but never posted until Trump/Cruz, then quickly left and found this place.  I don't recall that Freeper name.

[Hoodat]

Keyes is one of three GOP Presidential candidates I gave money to directly.  The other two were Jack Kemp and Rick Santorum.

[libertybele]

I think Hunter would have done just fine. He'd already won WY, hands down, and had they not stifled him - literally kicking him out of the debates - in the Carolinas, he'd have risen.

Thompson was not all that conservative, but he was famous.

It is the same argument today - Cruz at least was the penultimate conservative - The point of the spear for the TEA Party... But Tumpy, who was not all that conservative, was famous.

I will never understand that pull toward meaningless fame.

I agree with you about Hunter, I think he would have made a great president.   

As for Cruz, he's a constitutional conservative and has an audio graphic memory so he's pretty difficult to beat in a debate.  I still like him and maybe he and Greene would make a formidable team. 

[Bigun]

I don't know if you were a denizen of FR back in the day, but they had a Member, "clintonsaliar" who worked for Keyes for years.  We've had dinner with her a couple of times.

Yep! I've broken bread with her once or twice as well. @Cyber Liberty

I've also had the good fortune to be in the audience at events where Ambassador Keyes was the keynote speaker. He would have made us a great president! @roamer_1

[Smokin Joe]

I think Hunter would have done just fine. He'd already won WY, hands down, and had they not stifled him - literally kicking him out of the debates - in the Carolinas, he'd have risen.

Thompson was not all that conservative, but he was famous.

It is the same argument today - Cruz at least was the penultimate conservative - The point of the spear for the TEA Party... But Tumpy, who was not all that conservative, was famous.

I will never understand that pull toward meaningless fame.

I think it is a combination of name recognition and laziness.

It could be summed up as the unwillingness of those who aren't political junkies to do a little digging and find out about someone they haven't necessarily heard of, versus of jumping on a bandwagon with a brand they recognize.  People do the same thing shopping or going out to eat, they go with the known product (with all the trade-offs involved) rather than take a chance on a lesser known one.

 If you think about that, though, in the political arena, that phenomenon limits the field to those who have had airtime in the Mass Media, and the Mass Media are in the enemy camp, so the only airtime the best of the best will get will be negative or none.

We need a new paradigm.

But then, if the mass media is bitching about something, that trips a flag that I need to look into it...those jackasses can give me a heads up, but I damn sure won't let them feed me opinions (or even "facts" after all the fackchecking I have run afoul of).

[roamer_1]

Yep! I've broken bread with her once or twice as well. @Cyber Liberty

I've also had the good fortune to be in the audience at events where Ambassador Keyes was the keynote speaker. He would have made us a great president! @roamer_1

 

Another on that knew Keyes directly was Eternal Vigilance from FR. I miss that guy. I had direct communication with him more than a time or two.

[Smokin Joe]

I agree with you about Hunter, I think he would have made a great president.   

As for Cruz, he's a constitutional conservative and has an audio graphic memory so he's pretty difficult to beat in a debate.  I still like him and maybe he and Greene would make a formidable team.

I liked Hunter, too.

Cruz/Greene could be a potent force.

[roamer_1]

I think it is a combination of name recognition and laziness.

It could be summed up as the unwillingness of those who aren't political junkies to do a little digging and find out about someone they haven't necessarily heard of, versus of jumping on a bandwagon with a brand they recognize.  People do the same thing shopping or going out to eat, they go with the known product (with all the trade-offs involved) rather than take a chance on a lesser known one.

 If you think about that, though, in the political arena, that phenomenon limits the field to those who have had airtime in the Mass Media, and the Mass Media are in the enemy camp, so the only airtime the best of the best will get will be negative or none.

We need a new paradigm.

But then, if the mass media is bitching about something, that trips a flag that I need to look into it...those jackasses can give me a heads up, but I damn sure won't let them feed me opinions (or even "facts" after all the fackchecking I have run afoul of).

That's all right. And why I give fame little quarter. It don't matter who you pick, if he is on  the right, the media will crucify him. What seems to be the tell for a Conservative is when the PTB on the RIGHT crucify him, or drop him in the memory hole. That's probably the guy I could vote for.

[roamer_1]

I agree with you about Hunter, I think he would have made a great president.   

As for Cruz, he's a constitutional conservative and has an audio graphic memory so he's pretty difficult to beat in a debate.  I still like him and maybe he and Greene would make a formidable team.

That's about the earliest I remember YOU @libertybele ... way back in the day on Pissant's crew, all in for Hunter. @XenaLee , probably too... I met a whole lot of good Conservatives in that crew.

[Smokin Joe]

Yep! I've broken bread with her once or twice as well. @Cyber Liberty

I've also had the good fortune to be in the audience at events where Ambassador Keyes was the keynote speaker. He would have made us a great president! @roamer_1

I had the privilege of meeting Dr. Keyes in North Dakota. Great talk, and I wish I'd had more to donate at the time. I still have his autograph tucked away. (It was kinda funny to see the reactions of the gents doing security when I walked up, bearded white man in a surplus camouflaged jacket--the going mass media description of a "white supremacist" at the time--and extended my hand and thanked him for coming out and wished him well.)
My only reservation with Dr. Keyes was over "reparations" (although had we just cut a check then, it would have disarmed the whole concept) because  I still don't see how making people who never owned a slave (and often, whose ancestors didn't either) pay people who never were slaves can right a wrong that happened in an entirely different context a century and a half ago.

Most of those who did own slaves lost most, if not everything they had in the aftermath of the war or the war itself, so I don't see what the descendants gained. They didn't even get 40 acres and a mule, and lots of them moved west to the territories and started over, by the sweat of their own brow.

[Smokin Joe]

That's all right. And why I give fame little quarter. It don't matter who you pick, if he is on  the right, the media will crucify him. What seems to be the tell for a Conservative is when the PTB on the RIGHT crucify him, or drop him in the memory hole. That's probably the guy I could vote for.

Well, when you consider the 'R' after some of those names is just a 'D' on stilts, you're right.

If the Left dislikes someone, they might be my kind of people. If the Left and the GOPe don't like them, then I really take a look.

[Bigun]

I had the privilege of meeting Dr. Keyes in North Dakota. Great talk, and I wish I'd had more to donate at the time. I still have his autograph tucked away. (It was kinda funny to see the reactions of the gents doing security when I walked up, bearded white man in a surplus camouflaged jacket--the going mass media description of a "white supremacist" at the time--and extended my hand and thanked him for coming out and wished him well.)
My only reservation with Dr. Keyes was over "reparations" (although had we just cut a check then, it would have disarmed the whole concept) because  I still don't see how making people who never owned a slave (and often, whose ancestors didn't either) pay people who never were slaves can right a wrong that happened in an entirely different context a century and a half ago.

Most of those who did own slaves lost most, if not everything they had in the aftermath of the war or the war itself, so I don't see what the descendants gained. They didn't even get 40 acres and a mule, and lots of them moved west to the territories and started over, by the sweat of their own brow.

"What the income tax does is lead the people of this country down a path to where actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government. The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system.

In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they won‘t, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation."

   ALAN KEYES IS MAKING SENSE Television Show Monday, Jan. 28, 2002