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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #75 on: May 20, 2021, 10:19:03 pm »

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #76 on: May 20, 2021, 10:20:06 pm »
To whom it may concern:

Some of you Senator Cruz freaks need to put a cork in it. 

He already had his 'prom' and although he got bleeped, he never got laid.

Ya'll got a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus than turning this joint into Cruz Central.




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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #77 on: May 20, 2021, 10:26:00 pm »
    I have not run across a single Briefer (ok, maybe 1) that believes the 2020 election was NOT stolen from Trump. 
    Hell, @Sled Dog they stole the '60 election from Nixon.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #78 on: May 20, 2021, 10:28:04 pm »
To whom it may concern:

Some of you Senator Cruz freaks need to put a cork in it. 

He already had his 'prom' and although he got bleeped, he never got laid.

Ya'll got a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus than turning this joint into Cruz Central.

Nope, not trying to turn this joint into Cruz central.  Just acknowledging his and Trump's capabilities.

What I am saying is that we ALL need to find a way to move forward together to defeat  the globalist/leftists. 

Either we're ALL on board with that, or we will remain right where we are and watch our Republic continue to crumble.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #79 on: May 20, 2021, 10:28:37 pm »
   I hope you weren't eating dinner or something @goatprairie
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #80 on: May 20, 2021, 10:30:30 pm »
Five years ago I was all on-board for Cruz. This time around (if there s a this-time-around, I will be hard pressed to vote for him. He voted for a whole lot of 'big.gov' since he made friends with Tumpy.

Might I could still vote for him, but I don't trust him anymore. He will have to convince me, and that is a pretty tall order...
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2021, 10:43:44 pm »
Let's review, shall we?  In 2016, there was a battle waging from the grass roots at the local level within each State against the GOPe.  Ted Cruz was in the trenches holding the standard for this grass roots movement fighting for every appointed delegate to represent this movement at the Convention and vote against consolidation of power at the national level.  Contrast that with Trump who did not get involved with delegate selection and let the GOPe seat his delegates for him.  All Trump cared about at the time was getting delegates who would vote his way on the first ballot.  He wasn't looking at intra-Republican politics.  He wasn't caring about delegates who were truly loyal to him.  He only needed that first ballot.

Cruz was fighting for the direction of the GOP, while Trump essentially struck a deal with the GOPe that they wouldn't stand in the way as long as he let them stack the Convention with delegates supporting their power grab.  And what was the biggest threat to the GOPe?  It certainly wasn't Trump.  It was Ted Cruz.

When the Convention arrived, those GOPe delegates voted for Trump on the first ballot just as they were obligated to do.  But when it came to changing the rules, every single one of them sided with the GOPe at the national level, further stripping power away from the local levels.

This isn't the first time we've had this conversation.  Yet for some reason, each and every time, you choose to play dumb.  Of course you would have found out the hard way if it had gone to a second ballot.  And who knows what other deals were cut between Trump and the GOPe.  As @corbe already pointed out, having Paul Manafort as a campaign chair - the man who on behalf of the GOPe single handedly killed off Reagan's 1976 bid - did not exude anti-establishment sentiments.  This was confirmed when Trump chose Mr. Establishment himself - Reince Priebus - as his chief-of-staff.

This is why you never heard Trump mention anything about draining the swamp until less than a month before the November election.  I am glad Trump got elected, but let's not lie about how that happened.

Thanks for thinking I really give a bleep.  I don't.   :shrug:

But, maybe you should work on getting over whatever's been eating you alive after all these years --- it can't be good for your health. 


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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2021, 10:56:04 pm »
Thanks for thinking I really give a bleep.  I don't.   :shrug:

But, maybe you should work on getting over whatever's been eating you alive after all these years --- it can't be good for your health. 



   WE always knew you didn't give a shit. @Right_in_Virginia

   Truth and Honor always wins over populist speculation, every time, a difficult concept for some, I know.
   I can't speak for @Hoodat  but I'd bet he sleeps soundly, also.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #83 on: May 20, 2021, 11:11:43 pm »
Doesn't mean a thing. Cruz has one of the sharpest minds in politics,but no balls at all. He will talk a good game,kick things into gear,and then back away.

It's what he does.
He's as good a conservative politician as we'll ever find. But part of our problem is the political calculation.

I am impressed that he and a few others swore off corporate donations. Thats a very good start.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #84 on: May 20, 2021, 11:19:09 pm »
Thanks for thinking I really give a bleep.  I don't.   :shrug:
 

Then why did you respond in the first place, Miss Not-give-a-bleep?

See how stupid you end up looking when you don't value truth?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #85 on: May 21, 2021, 01:16:42 am »


Right.

Which makes Ted Cruz a natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother's legal ability to confer citizenship upon her son, as per the law at the time of his birth.

Why do you people harp on this garbage?   The issue about that Kenyan that Hillary raised was relevant because he was raised as an anti-American muslim socialist in Indonesia and his man-named womb was not eligible to confer US citizenship on that little neglected fairy when he was born in Kenya because she was too young to do so as per the US immigration laws of the time.

The Constitution does not define "natural born".

The Constitution DOES grant to Congress sole authority to define matters of immigration and naturalization.   The Congress, by the laws passed, have specified cases in which a person is automatically a US citizen upon birth and when the person is not.   The Constitution makes no mention of Magic Dirt.

Cruz, under law, was a natural born citizen.

Obama was never once naturalized and has never produced a valid US birth certificate.

You people childishly harping on the Magic Dirt of Canada! Oh, Canada! are serving both the Rodents and the RINO Traitors keeping that area under the Rodents' tails clean.

Good job, peeps.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #86 on: May 21, 2021, 01:24:32 am »
To whom it may concern:

Some of you Senator Cruz freaks need to put a cork in it. 

He already had his 'prom' and although he got bleeped, he never got laid.

Ya'll got a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus than turning this joint into Cruz Central.

Interesting if childish notion.

The FIRST time the Greatest President of the 20th Century ran for the GOP nomination was when?   He first ran as a presidential candidate in the 1968 primaries.

Yet here are some people super eager to dismiss Cruz because he lost ONE (1) presidential primary campaign, even though he came in a strong second to a juggernaut.

Y'all really really like Biden, don'tcha?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #87 on: May 21, 2021, 01:57:08 am »
Interesting if childish notion.

The FIRST time the Greatest President of the 20th Century ran for the GOP nomination was when?   He first ran as a presidential candidate in the 1968 primaries.

Yet here are some people super eager to dismiss Cruz because he lost ONE (1) presidential primary campaign, even though he came in a strong second to a juggernaut.

Y'all really really like Biden, don'tcha?

@Sled Dog

I have no problem with Ted Cruz, other than he's a loser.  He should have been been more exuberant about MAGA during Pres. Trump's term.

If the next GOP Nominee isn't MAGA at his or her heart, I'm sitting it out.

But, I have faith they will be.  The 75Million voters haven't gone anywhere.  And many Democratic voters are having Buyer's Remorse.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #88 on: May 21, 2021, 02:47:23 am »
Then why did you respond in the first place, Miss Not-give-a-bleep?

See how stupid you end up looking when you don't value truth?

I responded in the first place because I was truly perplexed by your comment @Hoodat -- it made (and makes) zero sense.   Had I known my one sentence would generate a full page litany of mistruths and wishful thinking, I would not have engaged.

I'll be more cautious with you in the future.  Promise.   happy77

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #89 on: May 21, 2021, 02:51:45 am »
@Sled Dog
I have no problem with Ted Cruz, other than he's a loser.  He should have been been more exuberant about MAGA during Pres. Trump's term.

Cruz was the last man standing in Congress to challenge the 2020 election results.  Is that really not enough?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #90 on: May 21, 2021, 03:33:38 am »
You people childishly harping on the Magic Dirt of Canada! Oh, Canada! are serving both the Rodents and the RINO Traitors keeping that area under the Rodents' tails clean.

Oh, do calm down @Sled Dog  How about you email Ted and let him know he's got to man-up and bring this issue to the courts.  I'd like a ruling on whether or not someone who was born (lived and obtained citizenship) in another country with only one American parent is eligible to be President of the United States.

Because if it's okay for Rafael, it's okay for this guy:     ​


BTW, no one serving the Constitution is serving "Rodents or RINO traitors" --- so you can give this nonsense a rest.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #91 on: May 21, 2021, 03:44:16 am »
Oh, do calm down @Sled Dog  How about you email Ted and let him know he's got to man-up and bring this issue to the courts.  I'd like a ruling on whether or not someone who was born (lived and obtained citizenship) in another country with only one American parent is eligible to be President of the United States.

Doesn't work that way @Right_in_Virginia .  The courts don't issue opinions just because someone asks them to, they decide between competing arguments.  Someone will have to take to the courts the position that he is *not* eligible; that's not Cruz's job, that's the D's job.

Might be best if you leave that up to them rather than making their case for them here.  Trump didn't take it to court, why do you want to?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #92 on: May 21, 2021, 04:03:13 am »
Doesn't work that way @Right_in_Virginia .  The courts don't issue opinions just because someone asks them to, they decide between competing arguments.  Someone will have to take to the courts the position that he is *not* eligible; that's not Cruz's job, that's the D's job.

Might be best if you leave that up to them rather than making their case for them here.  Trump didn't take it to court, why do you want to?

What the hell does Trump have to do with this @HoustonSam or is this more of your famous passive-agression?  Don't try to manipulate me, I don't like it.

I included why I want to do this in the part of my post you erased.   I hope it's clear enough for you this time.

I'd like a ruling on whether or not someone who was born (lived and obtained citizenship) in another country with only one American parent is eligible to be President of the United States.

Because if it's okay for Rafael, it's okay for this guy:     ​





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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #93 on: May 21, 2021, 05:34:23 am »
   You've made it plain enough @Right_in_Virginia that only an idiot could not figure it out.    /s
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #94 on: May 21, 2021, 05:51:04 am »
Funny how Cruz is remember early on and forgotten as soon as any Rino fake conservative shows up in the battle (yeah, Ann Coulter you can kiss my grits). Duncan Hunter was treated the same.... want a conservatve, grow some roots TBRers instead of being some populist butt sniffers. I am also hesitant on Cruz now days like Roamer is... He has kissed a few rings more than I like and spit at some more conservative than himself without cause, but not to the point of not voting for him (at this moment, but I have my eye on him pretty heavy).
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #95 on: May 21, 2021, 06:17:40 am »
To anyone who plans to vote in the 2024 election:

Simple yes or no, please: If Cruz were the Republican nominee, would you vote for him?


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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #96 on: May 21, 2021, 09:29:34 am »
Doesn't work that way @Right_in_Virginia . The courts don't issue opinions just because someone asks them to, they decide between competing arguments. Someone will have to take to the courts the position that he is *not* eligible; that's not Cruz's job, that's the D's job.

Might be best if you leave that up to them rather than making their case for them here.  Trump didn't take it to court, why do you want to?

@HoustonSam

I ain't no lawyer and I don't even play one on teebee,but isn't it possible for Cruz himself to file an appeal of some sort to a court to get a legal determination of his ability to become the President of the US?

One of the few things NOBODY has ever accused him of being is stupid,so IF he was ever serious about a run for the WH,wouldn't you think he would have already done this IF he would be eligible?

Just imagine how much such a document would help his fundraising.

Since he has never done this,it leads me to believe either he can't legally become president,or he has no genuine desire to become president.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #97 on: May 21, 2021, 09:32:44 am »
To anyone who plans to vote in the 2024 election:

Simple yes or no, please: If Cruz were the Republican nominee, would you vote for him?

@AllThatJazzZ


A VERY reluctant "yes". There is just something about him I don't trust.

But given that his most likely opponent would be Harris,he would probably get my vote.

This is all irrelevant,though. Trump will be running again,and he WILL get MY vote.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2021, 11:48:20 am »
@HoustonSam

I ain't no lawyer and I don't even play one on teebee,but isn't it possible for Cruz himself to file an appeal of some sort to a court to get a legal determination of his ability to become the President of the US?
I'm not either @sneakypete , but the answer is "no."  Courts are not in the business of issuing opinions simply on request, someone has to argue one side and someone else has to argue the other side. That's one of the limitations on court authority - they don't get to throw their weight around just because they want to or because one person asks them to.

For example when a President needs an opinion on whether or not a policy would be Constitutional, he doesn't call over to SCOTUS and ask them for a ruling; he asks his AG for an opinion.  SCOTUS waits until a case, argued by both sides, works its way up to them.  Cruz could ask some former R AGs for an opinion but that would make it look like he needs legal help on the issue; he doesn't, it's not a serious legal question, it's just an irrelevant distraction in keyboard warriorism.

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One of the few things NOBODY has ever accused him of being is stupid,so IF he was ever serious about a run for the WH,wouldn't you think he would have already done this IF he would be eligible?
No, because he can't do it.  He has to wait until someone else takes it to court arguing against him.
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Just imagine how much such a document would help his fundraising.

Since he has never done this,it leads me to believe either he can't legally become president,or he has no genuine desire to become president.
He legally can become president, and his desire appears to be genuine.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #99 on: May 21, 2021, 12:45:52 pm »
What the hell does Trump have to do with this @HoustonSam or is this more of your famous passive-agression?  Don't try to manipulate me, I don't like it.
Trump had electoral skin in the game against Cruz, but he didn't push the confected nonsense you continue to raise @Right_in_Virginia .  And neither did Beto O'Rourke during the most recent TX Senate campaign.  You're in some pretty rare territory, continuing to press irrelevant distractions that neither Conservatives nor Liberals find convincing.
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I included why I want to do this in the part of my post you erased.   I hope it's clear enough for you this time.
Do you think Cruz is going to name a Jordanian prince as his running mate, or that either party might actually nominate one for President of the US?  How about we talk about real situations rather than meaningless and obtuse hypothetical cases.  You're free to argue for an amendment to US Citizenship law, write to your representatives in Congress.  But when you do, make your case clearly and honestly rather than cynically appealing to anti-Arab sentiment by showing an unidentified man dressed as an Arab.  I guess "Canada = Iran" wasn't ridiculous enough, now it's "Cruz = dissident Arab prince."

And just to be absolutely clear about it, no Hamzah bin Hussein is not constitutionally eligible to become POTUS because his mother renounced US citizenship when she married Hussein.  And if that's too obscure for you furthermore he has not lived in the United States for 14 years, as required by Article II Section 1.

It really is not difficult to find these things out with just a few minutes of honest effort, and consequently it isn't difficult to make an honest, credible argument instead of posting reactive bullshit.  Why don't you try that?
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