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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2021, 07:01:13 pm »
@skeeter

NOT going to happen. The RINO Role in politics is to act as a spoiler. They get the alleged Republican "True Believers" all fired up,and then walk away at the last minute when it is too late for any other group to gain any traction.

Then they get together with the Dims in closed back rooms,and laugh,and laugh,and laugh!

It really doesn't much matter who's name comes up, there are a number of Briefers prepared to shoot them down and declare they won't ever vote for him/her.  Just read up this thread.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2021, 07:05:35 pm »
If any Republican has any ideas how to apply competitive free market principles to lower the cost of Government and to make America efficient and competitive, I'd like to hear them?

Telling me that Ted Cruz is great does nothing to convince me he is the person I want to vote for in the next primary.

I am tired of watching the decades pass and nothing substantially improving for working Americans.

Again, research is paramount. Cruz's background and his voting record speaks volumes.  You shouldn't go  by articles and others trying to sway your opinion.

I have been listening to, researching and watching Cruz since  before   he won his Senate seat. He has written two books.  His first book "a Time for Truth" I found to be very enlightening and I honestly finished it in about 2 days; I couldn't put it down.  I haven't had a chance to read his second book yet.

Lot's of information and opinions get posted in here, but IMHO one needs to do their own research.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2021, 07:07:19 pm »
It really doesn't much matter who's name comes up, there are a number of Briefers prepared to shoot them down and declare they won't ever vote for him/her.  Just read up this thread.

It's a shame., but they are entitled to their steadfast opinion.  Some would never ever admit that they were wrong.  Their loss.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2021, 07:24:20 pm »
What is he selling?  What is he offering?  Why should I vote for him?
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Yet this is beyond the usual suspects who ceaselessly bang their Political Drum when
matters of Principle are the issue.
Cruz is no more a representative of Principled Conservatism than Slick Willie Clinton was.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2021, 07:26:07 pm »
I still agree with the article........

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2021, 07:30:50 pm »
I'm in the market for a Republican that wants to incorporate competitive free market principles to solutions.

The biggest free market principle of all is for government to get the hell out of the way.  Impossible to do though when government spending exceeds 19% of GDP.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2021, 07:38:59 pm »
I still agree with the article........

For the most part, I do as well.  888high58888
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2021, 07:40:33 pm »
Cruz is no more a representative of Principled Conservatism than Slick Willie Clinton was.

@libertybele  See what I mean?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2021, 07:41:42 pm »
It starts at the state level, and that starts with shoring up our utterly decrepit voting system state-by-state.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2021, 07:41:52 pm »

President Trump, however, however, was ruthlessly opposed, undermined, betrayed, slandered, and blocked on his honorable and responsible foreign policy and national security goals to restrain NATO, improve relations with Russia, and pull U.S. combat forces out of both Iraq and Afghanistan over these next four years and by the time of the next national election in 2024, he will be 78—as old as Joe Biden is now. Undoubtedly, the efforts to destroy and discredit Trump will continue unabated from now until then.

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https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/19/ted-cruzs-time-is-coming-to-lead-a-resurgent-right/

No, that last line is wrong.

The effort to create a historical Big Lie about EVERYTHING Trump succeeded in doing and attempted to do will not ever stop.

Have the Rodents stopped lying about GW Bush?   No, even though they mostly ignore him.

Have the Rodents stopped lying about GHW Bush?  No.

Have the Rodents for even one minute ever stopped lying about Ronald Reagan, who defeated their beloved Mother Russia?  No.   And they never will.

The Rodents even still tell lies about how Republicans are racist, how Republicans started some unknown War of Northern Aggression and how Jim Crow was a Republican construct.

Rodents are born to lie, and lying is all they know how to do, and they do even that poorly.

So they're not going to stop lying about President Trump, not ever.  They hate him even more than they hated Reagan, even more than they hate (b)lack people and almost as much as they hate Americans.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2021, 07:43:46 pm »
Cruz is the only man in America who stood up to the GOP Establishment at their 2016 Convention.

Yeah, Trump didn't do that.  After all, the entire primary season that year consisted of Trump, Cruz and 15 worthless RINOs who were enlisted solely to ensure the selection of Jeb! as the Loser Nominee of the Year.

Cruz may have stood up against the RINOs.

Trump certainly did.   
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2021, 07:46:15 pm »
It starts at the state level, and that starts with shoring up our utterly decrepit voting system state-by-state.

 :amen:  Without election reform at the state level there is zero chance of any GOP being seated period. The left will seat whomever they want in play
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2021, 07:47:44 pm »
@libertybele  See what I mean?

I have the advantage to be able to utilize the 'ignore' feature.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2021, 07:53:03 pm »
If any Republican has any ideas how to apply competitive free market principles to lower the cost of Government and to make America efficient and competitive, I'd like to hear them?

I'll refer you to someone who wasn't a Republican but who had all the best ideas on how to make America efficient and competitive.

His name was James Madison and his magnum opus was the Constitution of the United States.

When the Constitution is followed, there's no problem with the drug prices charged by Medicare and the VA.  There is no healthcare authorized under the Constitution.

When the Constitution is followed, the Congress does not dictate to schools, not at any level, what the curriculum should be nor how much they will receive from the federal treasury to promote said curriculum.  The Constitution does not permit the  Congress to fund or interfere in education.

When the  Constitution is followed, the chances of the Socialist Security Ponzi Scheme going bankrupt is amazingly small, because the Constitution does not permit the creation of any form of national federal retirement scheme for non-federal employees, so there couldn't be a Socialist Security Ponzi Scheme to go bankrupt with.

Get the picture?

Conservatives know the roadmap.  The difficulty is getting the country back on the tracks.

If Ted Cruz tries to move the country back onto the Constitutional Rails, then he's the one to vote for.   

it's not the government's job to DO things for US.   Even a liberal like JFK knew that, before the other socialists had him shot.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2021, 08:03:11 pm »
Yeah, Trump didn't do that.  After all, the entire primary season that year consisted of Trump, Cruz and 15 worthless RINOs who were enlisted solely to ensure the selection of Jeb! as the Loser Nominee of the Year.

Cruz may have stood up against the RINOs.

Trump certainly did.

RINOs, yes.  GOPe, no.  Trump's delegates at that Convention were GOPe delegates.  If it had gone to a second ballot, most would have jumped ship.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2021, 08:06:10 pm »
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Principled Conservatism dates from the era of Pericles, having evolved from Natural Law.
Wise Men such as Burke, Hume and in our time, Kirk; affirmed this while asserting that
Conservatism and politics are core antagonists having little, if anything, in common.
Yet this is beyond the usual suspects who ceaselessly bang their Political Drum when
matters of Principle are the issue.
Cruz is no more a representative of Principled Conservatism than Slick Willie Clinton was.

The clowns claiming the Principled Conservative crown of True RINOism are all happy the Rodents stole the election of 2020, but aren't willing to admit the election was stolen.

So much for THOSE "principles".
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2021, 08:06:57 pm »
RINOs, yes.  GOPe, no.  Trump's delegates at that Convention were GOPe delegates.  If it had gone to a second ballot, most would have jumped ship.

No doubt there were some 'shenanigans' that took place at the Convention.   Yes it angered me as well.

Right now we have to figure out how to possibly make some headway at the local and State level, unseat the establishment on both sides of the aisle... or possibly just insert a new gov't from scratch. 
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2021, 08:07:10 pm »
RINOs, yes.  GOPe, no.  Trump's delegates at that Convention were GOPe delegates.  If it had gone to a second ballot, most would have jumped ship.

Study up on how the First Republican President won the nomination of 1860.

BTW, since the Principled Conservative True RINO jackoffs attempted to steal the nomination in the years before the primaries by rigging the rules in favor of Jeb!, there was no way Trump was not going to have all the delegates he needed on the first ballot, so your point really doesn't mean anything.

And there is no distinction between RINO and a member of the GOPe.   Traitors smell as rotten, no matter the name.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2021, 08:09:06 pm »
1860?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2021, 08:10:26 pm »
1860?

It's called "history".

It means things.

Do you know who the GOP's nominee was in 1860?   Do you know who the GOP expected to win the first ballot and get nominated? 
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2021, 08:12:10 pm »
It's called "history".

It means things.

Do you know who the GOP's nominee was in 1860?   Do you know who the GOP expected to win the first ballot and get nominated?

Do you know the rules in place today were not in effect in 1860?
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2021, 08:19:49 pm »
RINOs, yes.  GOPe, no.  Trump's delegates at that Convention were GOPe delegates.  If it had gone to a second ballot, most would have jumped ship.

   That's the way I saw it too @Hoodat and we knew Manafort (the guy that denied Reagan in 76) was in charge of Trump's campaign. 
   Politics aint bean bag, like they always say but Cruz was never compromised or made deals to get that far, like his victorious opponent did.

   I'd have to admit that seeing that crappy cornyn beat his dem opponent by 10%+ and Cruz struggling the election before barely beating beto by 2% points me in the direction of Trumpers having the same butthurt toward him as I do toward them.    :beer:
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2021, 08:22:39 pm »
Do you know the rules in place today were not in effect in 1860?

Do you know that people haven't changed in the least, and the rules in place in 2016 were rigged, purposely, to allow a specific and totally unqualified boob who couldn't catch the please clap if the rules were intended to best allow the voting Republicans to cast their ballots and force the candidates themselves to earn their delegates?

Tell me you're aware of the RINO corruption that was going to saddle the nation with yet another treasonous and useless freakin' poison oak BUSH, thereby guaranteeing a Hillary win in 2016?

The rules were more difficult for the candidates in 1860, the candidates could only secure their delegates on the first casting of the ballot, then the delegates could vote as they wished.    Seward failed to secure the necessary majority (2/3 of the vote, I believe it was), and in the meantime, the agents for Lincoln were busy working the delegates and getting them to promise to Lincoln on the second casting.

So, yeah, the rules were different, but in both 1860 and 2016 the GOP managed to nominate the best man for the times to do the job.

Back to the present.  I'm certain the GOPe is still playing games with the rules to prevent another real conservative from getting nominated.  These are the people that gave us McStain and then Romney, after all.   But if Cruz and DeSantis have a  knock-down drag-out fight over conservative principles...a POLITE fight, the Americans will take notice and one or the other will walk away with the nomination without alienating the other's voters.   

The Principled Conservatives will still be out of sorts, because they don't know what a Conservative is...they're still tugging on their pony tails and asking how a conservative president will "help" them, little realizing that REAL conservatives help themselves, and help others, but never asks the government to steal their freedom, which is what government "assistance" does, always.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2021, 08:24:18 pm »
   That's the way I saw it too @Hoodat and we knew Manafort (the guy that denied Reagan in 76) was in charge of Trump's campaign. 
   Politics aint bean bag, like they always say but Cruz was never compromised or made deals to get that far, like his victorious opponent did.

   I'd have to admit that seeing that crappy cornyn beat his dem opponent by 10%+ and Cruz struggling the election before barely beating beto by 2% points me in the direction of Trumpers having the same butthurt toward him as I do toward them.    :beer:

The purpose of the man in charge of the political campaign is to get the man who hired him elected.

Manafort performed that duty to the dismay of all phony Principled Conservatives and other RINOs and Rodents around.

I do not hire an auto mechanic to steer my car.   Trump didn't, either.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2021, 08:32:53 pm »
What a peculiar thing to deny.

 :laugh:  No, it's not.  Unless you believe in 2016 the GOPe was all in for Donald Trump.   :silly: