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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2021, 08:33:56 pm »
I'm really hoping that ALL conservatives can move forward.  It's going to take ALL of us to defeat the GOPe and the global leftists.  Every dang one of us.  What we need is leadership.  I see Cruz as that leader; but he's not going to be able to do it himself.  It's going to take millions of us courageous conservatives, and people like Trump, Paul, Jordan, Hawley and others backing him!  :patriot:  Not implying that I think he'll run in 2024, but he does have an awesome ground game and Trump is a Master of the Political Game.  I think that their recent meeting was significant  ... and yes ... I think they've got plans as to who they're going to launch!   happy77
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2021, 08:34:55 pm »
The purpose of the man in charge of the political campaign is to get the man who hired him elected.

Manafort performed that duty to the dismay of all phony Principled Conservatives and other RINOs and Rodents around.

I do not hire an auto mechanic to steer my car.   Trump didn't, either.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2021, 08:36:45 pm »
:laugh:  No, it's not.  Unless you believe in 2016 the GOPe was all in for Donald Trump.   :silly:

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!  :rolling:

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2021, 08:42:27 pm »
   Their Party Chairman became his Chief of Staff, tragically.  Another 'bad' Donald deal.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2021, 08:45:16 pm »
   Their Party Chairman became his Chief of Staff, tragically.  Another 'bad' Donald deal.

Yep ... that was then.  75,000,000 million of us need to find a way to move forward and conquer.    :patriot:
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2021, 08:57:20 pm »
Yep ... that was then.  75,000,000 million of us need to find a way to move forward and conquer.    :patriot:


   I agree @libertybele
   It's Trump in the drivers seat now and it all depends on what he does or who he endorses.






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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2021, 09:03:32 pm »

   I agree @libertybele
   It's Trump in the drivers seat now and it all depends on what he does or who he endorses.






*I wish I shared your optimism, I swear I do!

...hmmm  I don't see Trump leading the way all by himself, I see him doing some rallies for the person that he decides to back and I see Cruz also leading the way and figuring out a path forward ...maybe even inserting a new gov't. 

Well, I'm trying to have some optimism (not truly in my personality, I'm more of a realist) ...  I think the two of them have the ability to make some big changes.  Whether or not it happens depends on how much support "We the People" give them and if we can get idiots to stop voting for establishment politicians like Romney.

On the flip side it ALL  hinges on whether or not election integrity and the electoral process can be revitalized and implemented.

That's a lot of ifs @corbe
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #57 on: May 20, 2021, 09:05:35 pm »
Instead of engaging in another ridiculous circular firing squad like last time I hope we can stay focused on the real objective here.

Wouldn't that be nice.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #58 on: May 20, 2021, 09:07:53 pm »
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Cruz is no more a representative of Principled Conservatism than Slick Willie Clinton was.

You've said some silly assed shit, but this tops them all.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #59 on: May 20, 2021, 09:09:39 pm »
You've said some silly assed shit, but this tops them all.

You just need to remember that "Principled Conservatism" is the magic shield the Never Trumpers hide behind to pretend that they're the real conservatives, even if they helped prevent Trump's success and supported the 2020 electoral coup.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2021, 09:13:53 pm »
    I have not run across a single Briefer (ok, maybe 1) that believes the 2020 election was NOT stolen from Trump. 
    Hell, @Sled Dog they stole the '60 election from Nixon.
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« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2021, 09:23:52 pm »
:laugh:  No, it's not.  Unless you believe in 2016 the GOPe was all in for Donald Trump.   :silly:

Let's review, shall we?  In 2016, there was a battle waging from the grass roots at the local level within each State against the GOPe.  Ted Cruz was in the trenches holding the standard for this grass roots movement fighting for every appointed delegate to represent this movement at the Convention and vote against consolidation of power at the national level.  Contrast that with Trump who did not get involved with delegate selection and let the GOPe seat his delegates for him.  All Trump cared about at the time was getting delegates who would vote his way on the first ballot.  He wasn't looking at intra-Republican politics.  He wasn't caring about delegates who were truly loyal to him.  He only needed that first ballot.

Cruz was fighting for the direction of the GOP, while Trump essentially struck a deal with the GOPe that they wouldn't stand in the way as long as he let them stack the Convention with delegates supporting their power grab.  And what was the biggest threat to the GOPe?  It certainly wasn't Trump.  It was Ted Cruz.

When the Convention arrived, those GOPe delegates voted for Trump on the first ballot just as they were obligated to do.  But when it came to changing the rules, every single one of them sided with the GOPe at the national level, further stripping power away from the local levels.

This isn't the first time we've had this conversation.  Yet for some reason, each and every time, you choose to play dumb.  Of course you would have found out the hard way if it had gone to a second ballot.  And who knows what other deals were cut between Trump and the GOPe.  As @corbe already pointed out, having Paul Manafort as a campaign chair - the man who on behalf of the GOPe single handedly killed off Reagan's 1976 bid - did not exude anti-establishment sentiments.  This was confirmed when Trump chose Mr. Establishment himself - Reince Priebus - as his chief-of-staff.

This is why you never heard Trump mention anything about draining the swamp until less than a month before the November election.  I am glad Trump got elected, but let's not lie about how that happened.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2021, 09:28:24 pm »
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!  :rolling:

The only thing the GOPe was all-in for was consolidating their power.  Look how little money they spend on the 2016 election, yet they achieved the biggest power-grab rules changes ever at their Convention.  They didn't give a damn about Trump other than his proxy delegates.  But they were terrified of Cruz and his grass roots delegates.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2021, 09:36:30 pm »
Globalism - offshoring of industries, jobs, and opportunities that also threaten our nation's supply chain security.

Corporate welfare (2008/2009)

If the GOP wanted to throw working Americans a bone, they'd lower the effective Federal Payroll tax rate (Fed Income + FICA + Medicare) for wage earners to be the same as the long-term capital gains tax rate.

American consumers and employers are also paying a surtax via non-competitive industries - pharmaceuticals, media, communications.

The BEST thing government could do for you is substantially lower spending and begin to reel in all those Benjamins they've been printing. Lowering taxes does nothing if spending remains.

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« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2021, 09:37:54 pm »
The BEST thing government could do for you is substantially lower spending and begin to reel in all those Benjamins they've been printing. Lowering taxes does nothing if spending remains.

Yep.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #65 on: May 20, 2021, 09:41:35 pm »
You've said some silly assed shit, but this tops them all.

    @Absalom is so 'Principled' he gives us Nevers a bad name.


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« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2021, 09:42:33 pm »
I'm really hoping that ALL conservatives can move forward.  It's going to take ALL of us to defeat the GOPe and the global leftists.  Every dang one of us.  What we need is leadership.  I see Cruz as that leader; but he's not going to be able to do it himself.  It's going to take millions of us courageous conservatives, and people like Trump, Paul, Jordan, Hawley and others backing him!  :patriot:  Not implying that I think he'll run in 2024, but he does have an awesome ground game and Trump is a Master of the Political Game.  I think that their recent meeting was significant  ... and yes ... I think they've got plans as to who they're going to launch!   happy77

Five years ago I was all on-board for Cruz. This time around (if there s a this-time-around, I will be hard pressed to vote for him. He voted for a whole lot of 'big.gov' since he made friends with Tumpy.

Might I could still vote for him, but I don't trust him anymore. He will have to convince me, and that is a pretty tall order...

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2021, 09:44:15 pm »
    I'm just glad @Wingnut is still sleeping off last night.
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« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2021, 09:49:35 pm »
Five years ago I was all on-board for Cruz. This time around (if there s a this-time-around, I will be hard pressed to vote for him. He voted for a whole lot of 'big.gov' since he made friends with Tumpy.

Might I could still vote for him, but I don't trust him anymore. He will have to convince me, and that is a pretty tall order...


    I understand that @roamer_1 it's called Pollical Expediency and it makes me sick also.
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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2021, 10:02:48 pm »

    I understand that @roamer_1 it's called Pollical Expediency and it makes me sick also.

That's right.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2021, 10:04:33 pm »

    I understand that @roamer_1 it's called Pollical Expediency and it makes me sick also.

Yes, I can see that among certain circles Cruz was a Fave so long as he wasn't going to beat Trump and Trump wasn't expected to beat Hillary.

Now that Cruz would most likely win the nomination and the general election if elections weren't being stolen by the Rodents, Cruz is now out of favor with those Principled Conservatives who don't have any principles and aren't conservative.

Rank political opportunism, yes.
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2021, 10:06:12 pm »
Five years ago I was all on-board for Cruz. This time around (if there s a this-time-around, I will be hard pressed to vote for him. He voted for a whole lot of 'big.gov' since he made friends with Tumpy.

Might I could still vote for him, but I don't trust him anymore. He will have to convince me, and that is a pretty tall order...

Well, with that being stated, obviously I need to heed my own words and do some research.  Obviously things have changed.

Thank you @roamer_1 
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Re: Ted Cruz’s Time Is Coming to Lead a Resurgent Right
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2021, 10:12:15 pm »
To whom it may concern:

Some of you Senator Cruz freaks need to put a cork in it. 

He already had his 'prom' and although he got bleeped, he never got laid.

Ya'll got a better chance of shaking hands with Jesus than turning this joint into Cruz Central.

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« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2021, 10:12:19 pm »
   As the latest Straw Poll here proved, A significant majority of Briefers are equally divided among Desantis and Cruz, proving once again this is where I belong,
   I could work for either/both.
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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2021, 10:15:21 pm »
Well, with that being stated, obviously I need to heed my own words and do some research.  Obviously things have changed.

Thank you @roamer_1

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