So automatically he escalated the situation.
No.
The cop did when he pulled the gun with no evidence of an active threat.
A citizen reacting SLOWLY is not a threat, just a moron.
They make anyone an officer, these days....
Never said they were...but we as soldiers also know that we have to obey lawful orders from civilian police officers if we are stopped for any violation. We show up on civilian police blotters just like anyone else when we run afoul of the law. And any resistance to civilian law enforcement can result in military repercussions on our career.
I was no soldier.
And the orders were not lawful, not when the command was, under gun-point, to exit the vehicle with no statement of probable cause for the stop.
The "cops" escalated the situation, don't forget.
Driver fails to comply...won't stop...refuses commands...what are they supposed to do...ask pretty please? Wait til the driver runs them over to draw their weapoin?
They were supposed to get their asses out of the cop car, walk up to the citizen and SPEAK to him.
Not scream at him with weapons out. I'd have taken my sweet time to answer those unlawful orders, too.
And, btw, it's REALLY hard to run over someone approaching the SIDE of a car...the wheels don't roll that way. And if the suspect had fled the scene after coming to a stop, THEN the cops could have had a fun high-speed chase and OBVIOUS CAUSE to draw weapons. Since that's not what happened, don't try to bolster your arguments with hypotheticals.
If the "victim" is complicit in what ends up happening to them then they really aren't that much of a victim now are they?
The cops were in violation of standard procedure.
What LAW did the victim violate?
Rule of law is a cornerstone of conservatism. Sorry you don't comprehend that.
The CONSTITUTION is the basis of liberty. When "laws" violate the Constitution, they're not laws and don't need to be obeyed.
Which laws did the victim violate?
The cops violated the Fourth Amendment, engaged in assault under color of authority and otherwise abused their power.
The old description for that is "police brutality". Conservatives used to object to that. Actually, conservatives still object to it.
So was the law of that area. By the citizen. Bigly.
What law did he violate, in his brandy-new factory tinted SUV?
The driver continued for a mile after the lights were turned on. There was no tag visible. The officer had no idea what was going on. My first thought would be stolen vehicle. Watch enough shows like LivePD and you understand why.
There was a tag visible. It was in the rear window. The cop had a mile of looking at that end of the car, why didn't he see it? Needed an eye test?
The idiot 2LT (again repetitive I know) Kept trying to use his rank *chuckle* and his status as a member of the military to not comply. That ls complete and utter bullshit on the 2LT's part. He doesn't get special privilege to ignore local law enforcement simply because he's wearing a uniform. And you can clearly hear the officer tell him "I'm a veteran too".
I clearly heard the "cop" asking the victim what his rank was, indicating he was either ignorant of military insignia or deliberately trying to provoke the victim. Since he later claimed to be a veteran, he cannot claim to be ignorant. Hence he was deliberately provocative and hence responsible for escalating the situation, the opposite of what he was supposed to be doing. He deserved to lose his job.
Hopefully no rent-a-cop agencies will take him, either.
Again you're letting your personal bias from whatever bad run ins you've had with the cops completely kill any kind of common sense you should be applying to this situation. ANd it's really sad.
You want to assume this is personal to me in some way instead of treating what I said for what it is, an objective analysis.
Were the suspect's rights violated?
Yes.
That's what we need to know.
So if the one cop got himself fired for doing his job? What should happen to the 2LT for his actions during that stop that escalated it to the point it got to?
Nothing. He was the VICTIM.
Stop blaming him.
And there we have it. Your myopic view of law enforcement boiled down to it's purest form. It's not just this traffic stop you despise...you just hate law enforcement period.
Your line of argument isn't succeeding. You should try to inject more facts into your discussions.
You're one of those that would just rather give a middle finger to any police officer you see and chuckle;e to yourself about how cool you are for doing it.
See what I mean?
You're setting up some straw-critters, hoping that they'll bait your hooks.
They don't.
Only sheep like the taste of straw.