GOP dilemma — how to keep Trumpers yet regain anti-Trumpers

[txradioguy]

Blah blah blah. If he's as conservative as they come then there is no such thing as conservative.

And it's clear from your blather that you have no idea what a Conservative is if it dropped from the sky...landed on your face and started to wiggle.

[txradioguy]

Don't worry about this  guy  @Killer Clouds   Our very own @txradioguy doesn't like new members who challenge his friends.

Keep on truckin' ....   

That's awfully rich coming from the very person that wanted to and still wants to purge every member from here that doesn't kiss Trump's bright orange ass.

Sit down.  You have no room to critique anyone here.

[HoustonSam]

Like was said earlier if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's duck.

roamer_1 has been around here for a long time and he's made serious and substantial contributions.  On the other hand you, @Killer Clouds, have a lot of catching up to do before anyone goes out of their way to read your opinions.

Credibility isn't advanced on credit, you have to pay in cash as you go.

[roamer_1]

Helping the enemy is a classic signature of the Principled Conservative.

I haven't helped the enemy - I just haven't helped !YOU! and your feckless movement....

[roamer_1]

The Americans stopped the coronation of the Drunken Harridan.   

And more Americans voted for Donald Trump than any presidential candidate ever in history, including the current mindless occupant seated at the Resolute Desk.

And, no, the Americans aren't expecting any help from the self-proclaimed Principled Conservatives to restore America to it's glory.   Principled Conservatives are neither.

In other words, You ain't got sh*t.

[HoustonSam]

I haven't helped the enemy - I just haven't helped !YOU! and your feckless movement....

Lock and load buddy, I've been waiting on you.......

[roamer_1]

The understanding that whining doesn't move mountains, but moles can.

What's the first step in steering the Titanic away from the iceberg?

Making sure a Drunken Harridan doesn't get to give the orders.

What's the next step the new captain has to take?

Ordering helm to port (well, starboard actually, but the real Titanic struck on the starboard side)  AND having a crew willing to obey his lawful orders.

So the first step was taken.   The Titanic takes miles to turn, and not only the Rodents but the Whiners (ahem!) were the mutineers and the helm thus never responded. 

Thanks, Principled Conservatives, we can move forward without you from here.

Those treasonous idiots want to go immediately, in just one election, from the totalitarian regime of Obama to Libertarian Paradise.   They tend to forget that even the Founders had their traitors, who passed the Alien and Sedition Act, etc.

And, naturally, because the Principled Conservatives are at heart traitors to liberty, they insist on perfection and want to be the sand in the bearings to stop all movement until their sick idea of perfection is reached.   They profit by their treason, so they won't call it treason.

Excuses. Poor little Tumpy... He can't help it...
He's the leader. HE is supposed to put together a coalition to forward his agenda.
He utterly failed.
Blame it on everybody else, right? Not the guy at the top. You know, where the buck stops...

[roamer_1]

Theater.

Theater?    Traitor McStain's one vote stopped Trump from successfully repealing the unconstitutional MessiahCare scam that devastated American health care.

That's not theater, that's betrayal.

Traitor McStain opposed GW Bush's tax cuts.

That's not theater, that's betrayal.

That Ass Romney is the ONLY Senator to ever vote for the impeachment of a president from his own party.

And the basis for impeachment was not only proven to be a malicious lie, it was known to be a malicious lie before the impeachment was started in the House.

This isn't theater from the Left's heroes, it's treason.

RIIIGHT. McStain... The guy YOU voted for for president.
Didja vote for Romulus too?

See the flaw?
 

[txradioguy]

Helping the enemy is a classic signature of the Principled Conservative.

And here we have another example of someone incapable of comprehension of what actually constitutes a conservative and what doesn’t. 

[roamer_1]

You mean by the numbers of millions of new jobs?  Or the numbers of Invaders kept on the other side of our borders?

Maybe you're referring to the numbers of dollars the Europeons had to pay NATO to cover their debts?

You mean the millions of jobs destroyed by the lockdowns?
Where are those invaders NOW?? == The problem with governing by EO
Europe did not pay NATO. They paid a pittance and promised to pay NATO.

[roamer_1]

The Americans didn't win "nothing".

We won four years of Hillary Isn't President, and we're still in that wonderful era.   Whoever has their hand shoved up Biden's backside isn't Hillary.   It's Obama.

Riiiight... Continuing with the 'We're better than Democrats... Kinda' meme.
Y'all spend my grandkid's money just like democrats, that's for sure.

[roamer_1]

The conversation has to acknowledge WHY the deficit isn't being addressed.

And Trump is not that reason.

Of course. Tumpy is NEVER to blame.
Of course it's his fault. He's the guy at the top.
When my company messed up, Nobody was interested in my saying 'it's not my fault'.
Of course it was my fault. Mine before anyone else, because I run the joint.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Let's not encourage nOObs to draw bans?  J/S.  He was already warned by a Mod.

Was it done privately @Cyber Liberty

[Right_in_Virginia]

That's awfully rich coming from the very person that wanted to and still wants to purge every member from here that doesn't kiss Trump's bright orange ass.  Sit down.  You have no room to critique anyone here.

@txradioguy
 
Calm down you damn drama queen.  Stop your damn lying and do not tell me what I do and do not have room to critique.

Let me know if you have any questions.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Of course. Tumpy Ronnie is NEVER to blame.
Of course it's his fault. He's the guy at the top.
When my company messed up, Nobody was interested in my saying 'it's not my fault'.
Of course it was my fault. Mine before anyone else, because I run the joint.

Fixed it for you.

[roamer_1]

Why is it that Trump's self-glorifying pro-Trump/damn the R party stance was admirable, while roamer_1's objective pro-Conservativism/damn the R party stance isn't?

Thank you for that @HoustonSam ... And you're exactly right. 

[roamer_1]

The primary accountability for the Federal Debt lies with Congress, not with any President.  That's simply a Constitutional fact.

But that last "fire chief" had nary a single word to say about fire prevention; he can't determine the budget, but he can certainly use the bully pulpit, and he completely failed to do so.

The way I see it, He signed his name. He owns every dime. Had he VETOED, even ineffectually, that'd be different.

[roamer_1]

Look n00b...I'm not sure if you think you're amassing cool points or hoping to boost your cred with certain people around here...but you're just looking like a trollish bleep.

@roamer_1 is as conservative as they come.  He doesn't need to justify himself to some recently arrived schmuck who's only claim to fame here so far is picking fights with long term rock ribbed conservatives.

Just a word of advice...sit back and listen and learn and start using your brain before you hit send on your next post.  The mods won't be as nice nor will they give you the advice I've given you.

Just because someone doesn't think that Trump isn't the second coming or the most Conservative POTUS we've ever had (he isn't)...doesn't mean that person is a raging Liberal...I know that might be hard for the two working brain cells you have left to comprehend...but that's thats reality outside the small cloistered world of political discussion boards.

Thanks for that @txradioguy ... And that's right - I don't mind playing on the team when te team is worth playing for. The point at hand is that the Republican Team, and the Tumpy Team, judged solely by the numbers, Does not have the merit to warrant that fealty.

I am a team player for Conservatism, and nothing else.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1 has an in-depth, principled, and consistent understanding of Conservatism, which he has described here more than once.  Informed by writers from Burke to Kirk, he recognizes that a Conservatism of politics only is no Conservatism at all, and he insists on the complete, genuine article, not a veneered populism.

Right now he's the subject of considerable derision around here because he refuses to yield, but that is also in the nature of Conservatism - it refuses to yield.  Of course you are free to disagree with him - sometimes I do - but he has more than earned his bona fides.

And that is high praise coming from you @HoustonSam , and an honor. 

[roamer_1]

Lock and load buddy, I've been waiting on you.......

I seen it. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

The way I see it, He signed his name. He owns every dime. Had he VETOED, even ineffectually, that'd be different.

Come on, man!  You need to cut Reagan some slack here; you're being much too harsh.

[roamer_1]

Fixed it for you.

You fixed nothing... and on you go trying to tear RWR down... Knock yourself out - You ain't gonna get it done.

[roamer_1]

Because roamer_1 is about as conservative as Geraldo Rivera or Traitor Joe.

I am standing PRECISELY in the principles of Conservatism.

[txradioguy]

I am standing PRECISELY in the principles of Conservatism.

What a lot of these newcomers and n00bs to the Republican party don't seem to understand is that Conservatism isn't just a political philosophy...it's a way of life.  It's a set of standards and values we apply to our every day life and how we interact with the world.

A philosophy will change and evolve over time...your standards and values generally do not.

Those of us that have taken on Conservatism as our way of live have changed very little in our political belief system since we embraced it.

You get that...I get that and a few others get that.  But a lot of folks think Conservatism is whatever is popular at the time.

It just doesn't work that way.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I am standing PRECISELY in the principles of Conservatism.

Except when an affable president blows the lid off the national debt and fails to implement one policy or executive order to advance social "morality"   ---   Because the strongest, eternal principle of your branch of conservatism is style over substance.