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Angry at the Failure of His Election Challenges, Trump Calls His Own SCOTUS Nominees Cowardly and Incompetent

Trump thinks the judiciary cannot be trusted to reveal the massive fraud that he says denied him a second term.

Jacob Sullum | 12.27.2020 5:30 PM

Explaining the need to swiftly replace the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Amy Coney Barrett this fall, Donald Trump said the Court likely would have to rule on disputes about the presidential election. "I think this will end up in the Supreme Court," he told reporters on September 23. "And I think it's very important that we have nine justices….This scam that the Democrats are pulling…will be before the United States Supreme Court. And I think having a 4–4 situation is not a good situation, if you get that. I don't know that you'd get that. I think it should be 8–nothing or 9–nothing. But just in case it would be more political than it should be, I think it's very important to have a ninth justice."

In Trump's view, a ruling against his campaign would be "more political than it should be," while a ruling in which Barrett voted the way the president who picked her wanted her to vote would be untainted by politics. That counterintuitive view looked even more dubious after Barrett's confirmation, when Trump warned the justices that siding with Biden in a post-election case would threaten their status and power. "If Sleepy Joe Biden is actually elected President," he tweeted, "the 4 Justices (plus1) that helped make such a ridiculous win possible would be relegated to sitting on not only a heavily PACKED COURT, but probably a REVOLVING COURT as well."

Trump thought Barrett should dance with the one that brought her. But in case that argument was not persuasive enough, he argued that it was in her personal and professional interest to prevent Biden from taking office. In the end, however, Barrett joined the rest of the Court, including Trump's two other nominees and three justices appointed by Republicans George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, in declining to hear two cases that sought to overturn Biden's victory.

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He's right. In the face of original jurisdiction, they turned down the case. Cowardice, dereliction of duty, and failure to uphold the very Constitution they are sworn to uphold.

If growing your own grain for personal use can be construed to be covered under the interstate commerce clause, then the court should have taken up the case. Any State affected by the outcome of a nationwide election altered by fraudulent or illegal activities in another State should have standing.
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I can't wait to see what Trump says about Bitch McConnell... who just blocked the $2000 relief bill.  Looks like the Bitch is sabotaging the GOP (again and as usual).   I wonder what his Chinese wife thinks about that.   I bet she's just fine with it.   :whistle:
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Trump is absolutely correct; they are cowards!


According to Article II Section 2 of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court has the following power: “The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;-to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;-to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;-to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;-to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State;-between Citizens of different States;—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.”
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I can't wait to see what Trump says about Bitch McConnell... who just blocked the $2000 relief bill.  Looks like the Bitch is sabotaging the GOP (again and as usual).   I wonder what his Chinese wife thinks about that.   I bet she's just fine with it.   :whistle:


The Turtle is back to his old tricks; I wonder what backroom deals he has already made?   888mouth
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The Turtle is back to his old tricks; I wonder what backroom deals he has already made?   888mouth

I'm sure it has something to do with keeping his status as majority leader.... but he's too dumb to know you can't trust the Democrats and/or the ChiComs to keep their word.   
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I'm sure it has something to do with keeping his status as majority leader.... but he's too dumb to know you can't trust the Democrats and/or the ChiComs to keep their word.
The term "useful idiot" comes to mind. A "tool" at best.
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The term "useful idiot" comes to mind. A "tool" at best.

This is exactly what happens when people keep voting in the same "useful idiot" and expecting a different result.
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This is exactly what happens when people keep voting in the same "useful idiot" and expecting a different result.
I wouldn't be so hard on the average voter. It's possible a truly fair election has become a rare thing these days.

Or put another way, I now believe the average election/re-election process is even more corrupt than I had earlier thought.

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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.

Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.

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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.

Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.




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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.

Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.

Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.




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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.

Actually the American people deserve a fair election devoid of fraud and corruption and a SCOTUS that doesn't rule out of fear and with political bias!!!
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.

That's going to be a challenge, since the new Republicans will only support the biggest jackass, and then blame everyone else for noticing.

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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.

Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
How about this?


REGARDLESS of what Trump wants, there are at least 75,000,000 voters out here who want elections to be conducted without fraud. That is part and parcel of the duty of the SCOTUS, to uphold fair elections: anything different from one legal voter, one vote, is to deny equal protection under the law.

Considering the Constitution specifies that the Legislatures of the several States shall set their election laws, the changing of those laws by non Legislative actors, from Mayors and Governors to election board supervisors is a de facto violation of that Constitutional delegation of power. All of the jurisdictions in which fraud has been pointed out also changed those rules unconstitutionally to enable that fraud.
SCOTUS has a DUTY to rule on that fundamental and egregious violation, not only of the Constitution, but of the Rights of every legal voter involved in a national election.

I still cannot understand why any American would want anything less than an honest election.

Unless, that is, they are so wrapped up in getting something they want that the process has no meaning for them and the Rights of the rest of us are of no matter. If that is the case, sir, I can dispassionately state that you are my enemy, and an enemy of this Republic.

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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.

What is needed @FeelNoPain is the free press envisioned by our Founders  --- one who observes our political process and speaks truth to power rather than cover its lies and promote them as truths.


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That's going to be a challenge, since the new Republicans will only support the biggest jackass, and then blame everyone else for noticing.

One last time, genius:  It is not good strategy to insult the more than 75,000,000 Americans you're going to be begging to vote for your candidate someday.

I suspect you think your hyperbole adds inches, if not feet, to your stature --- but it actually strongly suggests you don't know what the bleep you are talking about and wins you a dismissal from rational Americans.  You'd do better to stay aware of this @cato potatoe .



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Only those who do not grasp the full, chilling affect of this Supreme Court's decision on the last hope of the rule of law in this country would ridicule the President's opinion of their action.  Unfortunately, these same souls are aligned with those unable to see the precedent this decision sets affecting more than one administration, one presidency, one man.

The decision, in full:

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The State of Texas’s motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution. Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.

Seven members of the US Supreme Court pissed on the Constitution in one sentence and forever changed its established role. 

To claim a state - plus 20 who joined the suit - do not have standing in the Electoral College is incomprehensively incorrect --- they are the ones who automatically do.  Further, to deny a plaintiff-state a hearing in its court of original jurisdiction is a capricious, blatant and stunning repudiation of Article III, Section II of the United States Constitution.

In one sentence the US Supreme Court declared itself a political entity and the very words of the US Constitution moot upon demand.   This should make the blood of every American run cold.


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SCOTUS failed to do their job, miserably so.

But hey, who here actually believes we live in a country with justice as a possible outcome?  Really?

I believe SCOTUS has REVERSED roughly 25 times or so decisions they have made from prior years and priors SCOTUS courts.  What does that tell you exactly?  It should tell you they are not infallible.  They screw the pooch with some level of regularity on some rather important issues!

There is no doubt there was massive cheating with the POTUS election.  That mechanism has not been dealt with, so expecting something different in 2024 is very naive.  In fact, that being the way things are, there are folks who will not bother voting in Georgia knowing their vote does not matter in Georgia.  Fair and honest elections may well have gone the route of an extinct species.  Poof!  Gone!!!

Look at Venezuela and Russia, and that is where we have been headed for some time.

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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
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As Termination Day beckons for Trump, an augury.
He will go his merry way while making a daily donkey's ass of himself, as Trump fades.
But his Toddler Posse will spend the next 1460 days raging/ranting over the "Stolen Election";
wearing out any remaining patience that Plain People have.
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Angry at the Failure of His Election Challenges, Trump Calls His Own SCOTUS Nominees Cowardly and Incompetent

Trump thinks the judiciary cannot be trusted to reveal the massive fraud that he says denied him a second term.


He is 100 percent right on this.
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