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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #350 on: December 07, 2020, 02:09:59 pm »
If you have no fealty to the truth your loyalty is worthless. Ponder that.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #351 on: December 07, 2020, 02:14:45 pm »
If you have no fealty to the truth your loyalty is worthless. Ponder that.

You can't handle the truth, sir.   Don't drag the rest of us into your pernicious vision for America.  Stacy Abrams was wrong.  So are you.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #352 on: December 07, 2020, 02:52:01 pm »
You can't handle the truth, sir.   Don't drag the rest of us into your pernicious vision for America.  Stacy Abrams was wrong.  So are you.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #353 on: December 07, 2020, 02:52:57 pm »
You can't handle the truth, sir.   Don't drag the rest of us into your pernicious vision for America. 

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #354 on: December 07, 2020, 03:10:30 pm »
Hello pot...this is kettle...

Is there anyone else noticing that even post election we have a handfull of members here who are slamming Trump 10 X versus Biden or say any other democrat or liberal?  Hmmmm...
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #355 on: December 07, 2020, 03:13:34 pm »
Is there anyone else noticing that even post election we have a handfull of members here who are slamming Trump 10 X versus Biden or say any other democrat or liberal?  Hmmmm...

They're anxious to slam the lid on the Trump administration and get back to shoving their sh*t sandwich down our throats. Totally disconnected from reality.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #356 on: December 07, 2020, 03:27:50 pm »
Well of course.   The fraud didn't extend down ballot?   That's absurd on its face.

But let's back up a bit.  AG Barr didn't say there wasn't any fraud; indeed there may have been substantial fraud.  Nor did he say that the Justice Department was wrapping up its investigation.  What he said was,  almost a month following the election,  that there was no evidence of fraud at the kind of level that would change the results of the election.

In other words, it is time to accept reality.  Or,  I guess, one of two versions of reality.

The American tradition has long been to accept the results of the election as the verdict of the people,  a force,  polity,  greater than the tribal concerns of the parties.    Keep up the fight, but on the new battleground established by the results of the election.  After all,  the situation may well be reversed in two or four years.   

The new, subversive tradition was established by Stacey Abrams.    Never concede, never acknowledge the outcome of the vote,  and claim that the peoples' verdict was illegitimate and unworthy of respect.   Now Trump is following that playbook to the letter, with the same poisonous results, the same subversion of faith and confidence in democratic norms.   

I think all of us will likely agree that Abrams'  play was that of a selfish scumbag,  both dangerous and destructive of the fabric the holds our  polyglot nation together.   But only a handful here will say the same of the President,  and indeed will admonish the few of who do as disloyal to the tribe.

My loyalty is to the Republic, not Donald Trump.   If that's not you as well  then you ought to think long and hard of the consequences of such naked hypocrisy.   
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My loyalty, too, is to the Republic, but even more to a sense of fair play. I detest thieves of any stripe with a passion that cannot be expressed here. the theft of even one vote is intolerable, the theft of millions which is likely a capital crime, imho.

Barr said he hadn't seen evidence. Perhaps it hasn't been shown to him, perhaps because of his slow walking other investigations, no one will. His office has failed to charge even the most egregious violators, even those who have publicly admitted guilt. I no longer consider him a worthwhile source, and if it was up to me, his ass would be out the door fast enough there would be no chance of the handle contacting his backside. As just one of 330,000,000 plus employers, I'm seriously disappointed in his performance.

So, frankly, when it comes down to what he says, i don't give a shit. At least charge the bastards so Biden has to go on record pardoning them to save his cronies the sort of economic misery associated with providing a defense.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #357 on: December 07, 2020, 03:51:56 pm »
Well of course.   The fraud didn't extend down ballot?   That's absurd on its face.

But let's back up a bit.  AG Barr didn't say there wasn't any fraud; indeed there may have been substantial fraud.  Nor did he say that the Justice Department was wrapping up its investigation.  What he said was,  almost a month following the election,  that there was no evidence of fraud at the kind of level that would change the results of the election.

In other words, it is time to accept reality.  Or,  I guess, one of two versions of reality.

The American tradition has long been to accept the results of the election as the verdict of the people,  a force,  polity,  greater than the tribal concerns of the parties.    Keep up the fight, but on the new battleground established by the results of the election.  After all,  the situation may well be reversed in two or four years.   

The new, subversive tradition was established by Stacey Abrams.    Never concede, never acknowledge the outcome of the vote,  and claim that the peoples' verdict was illegitimate and unworthy of respect.   Now Trump is following that playbook to the letter, with the same poisonous results, the same subversion of faith and confidence in democratic norms.   

I think all of us will likely agree that Abrams'  play was that of a selfish scumbag,  both dangerous and destructive of the fabric the holds our  polyglot nation together.   But only a handful here will say the same of the President,  and indeed will admonish the few of who do as disloyal to the tribe.

My loyalty is to the Republic, not Donald Trump.   If that's not you as well  then you ought to think long and hard of the consequences of such naked hypocrisy.   

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #358 on: December 07, 2020, 03:52:30 pm »
Is there anyone else noticing that even post election we have a handfull of members here who are slamming Trump 10 X versus Biden or say any other democrat or liberal?  Hmmmm...

It's like having a bunch of McStain mini-mes.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #359 on: December 07, 2020, 05:27:02 pm »
Is there anyone else noticing that even post election we have a handfull of members here who are slamming Trump 10 X versus Biden or say any other democrat or liberal?  Hmmmm...

Well I despise Stacy Abrams as a dangerous and destructive sore loser.   And you apparently are demanding we replicate her tactics and disrespect for the people.

I don't like it that Biden trounced Trump to the tune of seven million votes.   Perhaps we should consider just why that was and how to change things for the future.


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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #360 on: December 07, 2020, 05:51:27 pm »
Well I despise Stacy Abrams as a dangerous and destructive sore loser.   And you apparently are demanding we replicate her tactics and disrespect for the people.

I don't like it that Biden trounced Trump to the tune of seven million votes.   Perhaps we should consider just why that was and how to change things for the future.

Evidence has been presented to you many, many times that there are likely millions of illegal and "switched" ballots, so I have a cattle-sized salt block handy for reading posts like this one.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #361 on: December 07, 2020, 06:19:24 pm »
Evidence has been presented to you many, many times that there are likely millions of illegal and "switched" ballots, so I have a cattle-sized salt block handy for reading posts like this one.

And I should believe such evidence - why?   Forgive me for insisting on information from reputable sources.   Right wing kook media I will believe if and when their charges are echoed by the Wall St Journal,  National Review or credible actors like AG Barr.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #362 on: December 07, 2020, 06:22:58 pm »
And I should believe such evidence - why? 

To demonstrate that you have the ability to think, and that 'truth is something you value?
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #363 on: December 07, 2020, 06:24:56 pm »
To demonstrate that you have the ability to think, and that 'truth is something you value?

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #364 on: December 07, 2020, 06:29:01 pm »
It's like having a bunch of McStain mini-mes.

And oddly enough, they have only doubled down on their BS.   Hmm.....

seems that they are desperate to portray Trump as the loser here.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #365 on: December 07, 2020, 06:32:39 pm »
To demonstrate that you have the ability to think, and that 'truth is something you value?

Uh.... you realize who you are addressing here...

right?     :whistle:

(or did you forget the sarc tag...lol)

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #366 on: December 07, 2020, 06:39:04 pm »
And I should believe such evidence - why?   Forgive me for insisting on information from reputable sources.   Right wing kook media I will believe if and when their charges are echoed by the Wall St Journal,  National Review or credible actors like AG Barr.

And they think you're the fool for not believing frontpage or gateway pundit...they believe without question everything fed to them from epoch times.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #367 on: December 07, 2020, 06:39:43 pm »
To demonstrate that you have the ability to think, and that 'truth is something you value?

Do you value truth,  or only that "truth" that scratches your itch?   I reject kook media unless and until it is confirmed by sources I know to be reliable. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #368 on: December 07, 2020, 06:42:01 pm »
And they think you're the fool for not believing frontpage or gateway pundit...they believe without question everything fed to them from epoch times.

As you are (apparently) believing everything spewed at you from SeeBS, CNN (Commie News Network), and from all the other leftist Pravda substitutes.

Thing is.... we on the right (not you) know how much, how often and how consistently the leftist lamestream media lies.   You should probably try to catch up to that reality.


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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #369 on: December 07, 2020, 06:43:20 pm »
And I should believe such evidence - why?   Forgive me for insisting on information from reputable sources.   Right wing kook media I will believe if and when their charges are echoed by the Wall St Journal,  National Review or credible actors like AG Barr.

Do you believe the security video from State Farm Arena was faked?  See, you always ignore facts you find inconvenient.  Always have, always will.  There's an adage that applies, about leading a horse to water....
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #370 on: December 07, 2020, 06:44:16 pm »
Do you value truth,  or only that "truth" that scratches your itch?   I reject kook media unless and until it is confirmed by sources I know to be reliable.

Oh come on, man.    Admit the truth for once.    Hell, even Dementia Biden admits the absolute truth on rare occasions.   Truth is... you reject anything or anyone that says Trump didn't lose this election.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #371 on: December 07, 2020, 06:44:20 pm »
And they think you're the fool for not believing frontpage or gateway pundit...they believe without question everything fed to them from epoch times.

I am happy to read that crap,  but that's with full awareness they have a partisan axe to grind.   I do not see them as purveyors of "truth" unless and until confirmed.   Until then I will not join Trumpsters in their sugar rush.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #372 on: December 07, 2020, 06:45:49 pm »
And they think you're the fool for not believing frontpage or gateway pundit...they believe without question everything fed to them from epoch times.

I don't believe those sources either, along with other so-called "right wing" sources.  A "fool" refuses to believe hard evidence like the security cam video.

Your test for Foolishness needs some calibration.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #373 on: December 07, 2020, 06:46:12 pm »
Oh come on, man.    Admit the truth for once.    Hell, even Dementia Biden admits the absolute truth on rare occasions.   Truth is... you reject anything or anyone that says Trump didn't lose this election.

And you reject overwhelming evidence that he did. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #374 on: December 07, 2020, 06:47:43 pm »
And you reject overwhelming evidence that he did.

You're rejecting overwhelming evidence of voter/election fraud in Biden's favor.   So...

guess which one of us is correct.

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