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Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« on: November 28, 2020, 12:12:39 pm »
The Post & Email by Dr. Jay Lehr & Tom Harris 11/27/2020

"HEATING OR EATING"

The power disaster unfolding in California will soon occur across the country if Joe Biden gets his way. Just as the former Vice-President plans for America as a whole, the Golden State is sweeping away the forms of energy that have been reliable for decades. Power outages are now commonplace in California. Last summer, the state suffered its first rolling blackouts in nearly 20 years. Imagine if this happened in Chicago in the middle of winter.

California’s trouble is explained by officials who now openly admit to an over-reliance on wind and solar power. The governor said there was not enough wind to keep the turbines going with cloud cover and nightfall restricting solar power. The Los Angeles Times reported:

All this is happening while California continues its intent to transition to 60% renewable energy by 2030 and 100% “climate-friendly energy” by 2045, as required by state law. Indeed, in their October 6th open letter to Newsom, the heads of the California’s Energy Commission, Independent System Operator and Public Utilities Commission wrote: “We are unwavering in our commitment to meeting California’s clean energy and climate goals.” And, Biden plans to go even further, committing to making the nation 100% renewable within 15 years.

California’s shift toward so-called green energy, which is actually anything but, is being echoed by politicians across the nation. The result, especially in states that don’t enjoy California’s mostly benign weather, is going to be that those in the poorest neighborhoods and those on fixed incomes may be forced to choose between heating or eating.

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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2020, 12:38:04 pm »
This is my last real nut to crack in the way of off-grid Independence. If I get things going up in the holler, that place will be water turbine driven for power with solar being a backup. But as it is now, even where I am I'm moving forward, with the solar system that will be back up up there, functioning down here as the primary power source, using the place here as a testing bed while I am still close to town. I will still have access to electric power from the grid, but I will not need it anymore.

Right now I still do need it. But if it becomes tenuous, even now I would be all right, providing that I had fuel enough to run the generators. I'm working on that too, converting one of my generators over the natural gas for a proper fallback generator. As for the rest, I already heat primarily with wood, and I can make light with fuel oil lanterns. So really all I need generators for now is for the freezing and refrigeration.

This is something I think everyone should consider, providing they live where they have the space to implement it. It isn't just because of biden, or just because of anything. but rather, to be as independent as possible in the face of any catastrophe that maybe looming on the horizon.

It doesn't have to be that complicated. But one of the primary thought processes that go into survival is the idea of usable alternatives, and that always being a useful consideration.

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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2020, 03:05:45 pm »
This will also bring poverty, job losses and reduced tax income to feed the bloated govt.

It will not be a pretty time for this country as the economy is stifled by believing fairy tales about renewables and horror stories about hydrocarbons.
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2020, 06:46:30 pm »
This is my last real nut to crack in the way of off-grid Independence. If I get things going up in the holler, that place will be water turbine driven for power with solar being a backup. But as it is now, even where I am I'm moving forward, with the solar system that will be back up up there, functioning down here as the primary power source, using the place here as a testing bed while I am still close to town. I will still have access to electric power from the grid, but I will not need it anymore.

Right now I still do need it. But if it becomes tenuous, even now I would be all right, providing that I had fuel enough to run the generators. I'm working on that too, converting one of my generators over the natural gas for a proper fallback generator. As for the rest, I already heat primarily with wood, and I can make light with fuel oil lanterns. So really all I need generators for now is for the freezing and refrigeration.

This is something I think everyone should consider, providing they live where they have the space to implement it. It isn't just because of biden, or just because of anything. but rather, to be as independent as possible in the face of any catastrophe that maybe looming on the horizon.

It doesn't have to be that complicated. But one of the primary thought processes that go into survival is the idea of usable alternatives, and that always being a useful consideration.

You have an advantage:  You are completely in control of the demand...
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2020, 10:01:13 pm »
You have an advantage:  You are completely in control of the demand...

That is not quite true - but I am willing to sacrifice and to walk in a different way from everyone else.... In that I must also govern myself - There is no reasonable or affordable way to get me 220v for instance. I must do without my big air compressor, my welder, my dryer and my electric stove.

I CAN have 220, just not without firing up the big jenny. So by and large, I will have to live within the means provided by what I am willing to shell out in a system.

That governance of self and willingness to do without should be the emphasis of 'complete control', and not the control itself.

And that is no small thing, by the way.... One could argue that to be the missing piece in American capitalism.


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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 10:25:38 pm »
This is my last real nut to crack in the way of off-grid Independence. If I get things going up in the holler, that place will be water turbine driven for power with solar being a backup. But as it is now, even where I am I'm moving forward, with the solar system that will be back up up there, functioning down here as the primary power source, using the place here as a testing bed while I am still close to town. I will still have access to electric power from the grid, but I will not need it anymore.

Right now I still do need it. But if it becomes tenuous, even now I would be all right, providing that I had fuel enough to run the generators. I'm working on that too, converting one of my generators over the natural gas for a proper fallback generator. As for the rest, I already heat primarily with wood, and I can make light with fuel oil lanterns. So really all I need generators for now is for the freezing and refrigeration.

This is something I think everyone should consider, providing they live where they have the space to implement it. It isn't just because of biden, or just because of anything. but rather, to be as independent as possible in the face of any catastrophe that maybe looming on the horizon.

It doesn't have to be that complicated. But one of the primary thought processes that go into survival is the idea of usable alternatives, and that always being a useful consideration.

Fuel for the generators  .... they will be limiting how much fuel you can buy as well.
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 10:46:28 pm »
Fuel for the generators  .... they will be limiting how much fuel you can buy as well.

The farm has 500 gallons of Premium non-ethanol gasoline on hand, and around 800 gallons of diesel (if I have the tank sizes right... something like that). There are 2 55's of kerosene out back here, not to mention several cases of white gas. If everything went to hell in a handbasket right now we'd be fine for a long, long time. Our major problem right now is being too close to town. I do not believe we can DEFEND what we have assembled for very long at all.

That is what the Holler is for... It's off the pavement, off the gravel, and at the very end of a hard to find two-track... Smack dab in the middle of hillbilly country, where every man-jack of them will rise to defend their mountains... Given the nature of catastrophe, gas will be gone in days, and thereafter, anything outside of a 10 mile radius is fairly immune to raiders. Too far to go, raid, and come back quickly... And after that, as abandonment begins, raiders will be moving with the herd basing from the highways up into the hills, as the herds move along toward bigger cities.

I am WELL out of the way of both of those scenarios, and can stay buttoned down with the family easy for a year, certainly for two, and maybe for three. Plenty of time.

But that is a distraction from what I meant - One should be as close to self governance, and autonomous independence as possible as a way of life, as that way of life assures, or at least, best guarantees survival of any catastrophe - Not just a zombie apocalypse.  happy77

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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 10:56:50 pm »
The farm has 500 gallons of Premium non-ethanol gasoline on hand, and around 800 gallons of diesel (if I have the tank sizes right... something like that). There are 2 55's of kerosene out back here, not to mention several cases of while gas. If everything went to hell in a handbasket right now we'd be fine for a long, long time. Our major problem right now is being too close to town. I do not believe we can DEFEND what we have assembled for very long at all.

That is what the Holler is for... It's off the pavement, off the gravel, and at the very end of a hard to find two-track... Smack dab in the middle of hillbilly country, where every man-jack of them will rise to defend their mountains... Given the nature of catastrophe, gas will be gone in days, and thereafter, anything outside of a 10 mile radius is fairly immune to raiders. Too far to go, raid, and come back quickly... And after that, as abandonment begins, raiders will be moving with the herd basing from the highways up into the hills, as the herds move along toward bigger cities.

I am WELL out of the way of both of those scenarios, and can stay buttoned down with the family easy for a year, certainly for two, and maybe for three. Plenty of time.

But that is a distraction from what I meant - One should be as close to self governance, and autonomous independence as possible as a way of life, as that way of life assures, or at lest, best guarantees survival of any catastrophe - Not just zombie apocalypse.  happy77

You and yours will be among the survivors @roamer_1    I don't anticipate we'll make it for very long.  Kicking myself again for not moving into the mountains while we had the chance. We'll be extinguished or put into a FEMA camp along with hundreds of thousands of others. 

Still saying U.N. troops are waiting in the wings to ensure the fall of our country.  Millions of us have lots of weapons and firepower, but not enough to win the battle that's coming.
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 11:15:33 pm »
I sailed wrote (accurately):
"It will not be a pretty time for this country as the economy is stifled by believing fairy tales about renewables and horror stories about hydrocarbons."

I'm guessing that it's gonna take two or three decades for the infatuation with "green-ness" to burn its way through society before folks begin to realize "this ain't workin'", and that the "old, polluting ways" were actually better. For everyone.

Even then, the communist powers-that-be who will be in full control by then won't care or heed the public's clamor to "make the infrastructure work again". After all, THEY'LL be warm in winter and cool in summer in their elite areas, while the rest of the "American comrades" suffer in the cold and sweat in the heat.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 11:18:06 pm »
You and yours will be among the survivors @roamer_1    I don't anticipate we'll make it for very long.  Kicking myself again for not moving into the mountains while we had the chance. We'll be extinguished or put into a FEMA camp along with hundreds of thousands of others. 

I don't know that we'll survive - It ain't in place just yet, and me being bunged up again is pushing it off even further... But while there are no guarantees, I definitely will hedge my bets... And you should too, any which way you can... Maybe that's a summer home in the Appalachians, or down in the Ozarks, or out here in the Rockies... Or knowing someone in one of those places where you can light and set a spell... Plenty of things for older folks to do, especially women folks with vast knowledge of gardening, putting up, sewing and patching, and knowledge of herbs and medicines... Such folks find themselves of great value, and them hillbillies respect and care for them...

So just being elder is no reason to throw in the towel... Even an acre of land and a trailer house somewhere is better than the alternative... And is a provision your whole family will flock to when the chips come raining down.  :beer:

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The governor said there was not enough wind to keep the turbines going with cloud cover and nightfall restricting solar power.

Nightfall restricts solar power?  They just now figured that out?
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2020, 11:24:35 pm »
Nightfall restricts solar power?  They just now figured that out?

Nothing can get by them.
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2020, 02:23:05 am »
The farm has 500 gallons of Premium non-ethanol gasoline on hand, and around 800 gallons of diesel (if I have the tank sizes right... something like that). There are 2 55's of kerosene out back here, not to mention several cases of white gas. If everything went to hell in a handbasket right now we'd be fine for a long, long time. Our major problem right now is being too close to town. I do not believe we can DEFEND what we have assembled for very long at all.

That is what the Holler is for... It's off the pavement, off the gravel, and at the very end of a hard to find two-track... Smack dab in the middle of hillbilly country, where every man-jack of them will rise to defend their mountains... Given the nature of catastrophe, gas will be gone in days, and thereafter, anything outside of a 10 mile radius is fairly immune to raiders. Too far to go, raid, and come back quickly... And after that, as abandonment begins, raiders will be moving with the herd basing from the highways up into the hills, as the herds move along toward bigger cities.

I am WELL out of the way of both of those scenarios, and can stay buttoned down with the family easy for a year, certainly for two, and maybe for three. Plenty of time.

But that is a distraction from what I meant - One should be as close to self governance, and autonomous independence as possible as a way of life, as that way of life assures, or at least, best guarantees survival of any catastrophe - Not just a zombie apocalypse.  happy77


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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2020, 02:25:52 am »
I sailed wrote (accurately):
"It will not be a pretty time for this country as the economy is stifled by believing fairy tales about renewables and horror stories about hydrocarbons."

I'm guessing that it's gonna take two or three decades for the infatuation with "green-ness" to burn its way through society before folks begin to realize "this ain't workin'", and that the "old, polluting ways" were actually better. For everyone.

Even then, the communist powers-that-be who will be in full control by then won't care or heed the public's clamor to "make the infrastructure work again". After all, THEY'LL be warm in winter and cool in summer in their elite areas, while the rest of the "American comrades" suffer in the cold and sweat in the heat.


LEFTS..aren't happy unless they can ruin something in the same of 'health" or "climate'.  They are nuts.
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2020, 03:08:19 am »
Its never gonna happen, especially after what transpired in Japan, but im a lone(ish) voice calling for ma lot of new nuclear power plants.

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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2020, 03:13:18 am »
Its never gonna happen, especially after what transpired in Japan, but im a lone(ish) voice calling for ma lot of new nuclear power plants.

Nope. Not going with you on that... Make more mess than they are worth. Figure out a way to counteract the radioactive results for inert disposal, and how to clean up a meltdown in less than a decade and I could be sold on it. But not till then.

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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2020, 03:16:37 am »

I do that in small ways.  Knowing how to make one's own yeast from the air.  Vinegar, homemade yogurt from dried milk supply. Hard tack making. Beef jerky. Little things.

If you're doing the best you can, I have no trouble with that. Folks that live in inner cities cannot do much... But folks have forgotten how much can be grown on an average 1/2 acre yard. Our garden was less than half an acre for many many years, and my mother fed a family of 6 from that plot...


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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2020, 03:58:30 am »
Nope. Not going with you on that... Make more mess than they are worth. Figure out a way to counteract the radioactive results for inert disposal, and how to clean up a meltdown in less than a decade and I could be sold on it. But not till then.

Everyone is a NIMBY about it, I get it.  I wouldn't be all that comfortable with one next door, too.  But the advantages are so alluring.

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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2020, 04:07:47 am »
Everyone is a NIMBY about it, I get it.  I wouldn't be all that comfortable with one next door, too.  But the advantages are so alluring.

Yeah... So are hookers...  :laugh:

Gotta figure a little longer than the face of the thing. Wait till chernobyl gets in there deep enough to hit the aquifer... See how that works out.

It ain't 'my back yard'.... when one of them puppies goes off, you're talking hundreds of square miles destroyed for generations.

That ain't the sort of thing we should be messin with.

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2020, 04:15:19 am »
Yeah... So are hookers...  :laugh:

Gotta figure a little longer than the face of the thing. Wait till chernobyl gets in there deep enough to hit the aquifer... See how that works out.

It ain't 'my back yard'.... when one of them puppies goes off, you're talking hundreds of square miles destroyed for generations.

That ain't the sort of thing we should be messin with.

First off, I miss Thailand...

And the chernobyl thing is not on the table as a possibility.  Fukushima, well,  im sure they had assured everyone it was safe so I have no good counterpoint.  What can I say....maybe the best I can hope for is some lightly populated, geologically inactive places with easy egress...

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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2020, 04:25:41 am »
First off, I miss Thailand...


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You don't know me that well, so I'll lay off the lady-boy joke that immediately came to mind...

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And the chernobyl thing is not on the table as a possibility.  Fukushima, well,  im sure they had assured everyone it was safe so I have no good counterpoint.  What can I say....maybe the best I can hope for is some lightly populated, geologically inactive places with easy egress...

Sure just plant it out there for the rednecks to deal with... That's the ticket...

Nope. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If you can't fix it when it messes up, then better not to mess with it at all.

After all, what could possibly go wrong, right?
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2020, 04:32:07 am »
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You don't know me that well, so I'll lay off the lady-boy joke that immediately came to mind...


You don't know *me* that well  wink777

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2020, 04:33:43 am »
You don't know *me* that well  wink777

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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2020, 06:00:00 am »
Nationwide blackout???  Lol, Texas has its own power grid.
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Re: Get Ready for Nationwide Blackouts under Biden
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2020, 07:13:57 am »
Nationwide blackout???  Lol, Texas has its own power grid.
North Dakota is a net exporter, too.
Just as the Ukraine was of grain. (yep, we export a lot of that, too)
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