Georgia: Legal Updates

[Hoodat]

Other things hurt him aside from his wooden demeanor.

For many of us, hearing him talking about ushering in a "New World Order" was enough.

I didn't order any "New World", did you?

In 1980, I dubbed him the Anti-Reagan.  That never changed.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Victoria33  I replied on that other thread.  You are correct about how mail-in ballots are counted, at least in AZ.

Can you explain to @Victoria33 how illegal mail-in ballots are counted?  I think she's confusing legal and illegal votes @Cyber Liberty

[Cyber Liberty]

Can you explain to @Victoria33 how illegal mail-in ballots are counted?  I think she's confusing legal and illegal votes @Cyber Liberty

Illegal votes are "illegal," and by definition the laws don't apply.  This is fine with the "win at all costs" Democrats, and they seem to be the ones in power, even when they are in the minority.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Illegal votes are "illegal," and by definition the laws don't apply. 

Thank you.

The laws and processes you so thoroughly presented were not applied to hundreds of thousands of mail-in votes @Victoria33   --- Hence, the fraud.

[Victoria33]

Can you explain to @Victoria33 how illegal mail-in ballots are counted?  I think she's confusing legal and illegal votes @Cyber Liberty

@Right_in_Virginia

I wrote where they go, Central Counting, not what happens after they get to Central Counting.  I have written that before, the whole process, you must have missed it. 

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

I wrote where they go, Central Counting, not what happens after they get to Central Counting.  I have written that before, the whole process, you must have missed it. 

You wrote about how a legal process works.  But you seem to have zero understanding of how illegal ballot harvesting, illegal ballot stuffing, and illegal software manipulation works.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I wrote where they go, Central Counting, not what happens after they get to Central Counting.  I have written that before, the whole process, you must have missed it. 

I can only repeat:  for hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots this did not happen.  NONE of the laws and procedures applied.  Bypassing both facilitated part of the massive voter and election fraud.  @Victoria33

[Victoria33]

You wrote about how a legal process works.  But you seem to have zero understanding of how illegal ballot harvesting, illegal ballot stuffing, and illegal software manipulation works.

@Hoodat

You don't get it.  If you know the legal way, you can find the illegal happening.  If you don't know the legal way, you are sunk.

[bigheadfred]

@Hoodat

You don't get it.  If you know the legal way, you can find the illegal happening.  If you don't know the legal way, you are sunk.

Is this one of those you can't tell your azz from a hole in the ground things?

[Victoria33]

I can only repeat:  for hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots this did not happen.  NONE of the laws and procedures applied.  Bypassing both facilitated part of the massive voter and election fraud.  @Victoria33

As I just wrote to another:  You don't get it.  If you know the legal way, you can find the illegal happening.  If you don't know the legal way, you are sunk.  When in 2000, Florida had the problem with Bush/Gore, I am the one who helped Florida because I knew the laws and the Secretary of State didn't, so I talked to her and we got it fixed.

Am through with this, about to watch Trump in Georgia.

[Hoodat]

Is this one of those you can't tell your azz from a hole in the ground things?

[Hoodat]

As I just wrote to another:  You don't get it.  If you know the legal way, you can find the illegal happening.  If you don't know the legal way, you are sunk. 

@Victoria33

I'm not a Rhodes Scholar, and I didn't earn an advanced degree at MIT.  But I do know that it is illegal as heck to clandestinely plant suitcases full of pre-filled ballots into election counting rooms, declare an end to counting until the following day, and then in the middle of the night continue counting by adding those planted ballots to the totals.  Not sure how a so-called 'expert' such as yourself can't see it.

I also know that it is illegal to bring thumb drives into a ballot counting area during a recount.  And it is illegal to count ballots from generic envelopes with no voter name, return address, etc., on the envelope - all of which occurred in Georgia with video evidence.  Again, not sure how that slips by you.

And finally, it is illegal for an executive officer to make changes to election law without legislative approval.  It is illegal to accept payments from State vendors.  And it is illegal to order that signatures not be checked during a recount, even though State Law requires it.  Yet for some unknown reason, it doesn't even show up on your expert radar.

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33  I'm not a Rhodes Scholar, and I didn't earn an advanced degree at MIT.  But I do know that it is illegal as heck to clandestinely plant suitcases full of pre-filled ballots into election counting rooms, declare an end to counting until the following day, and then in the middle of the night continue counting by adding those planted ballots to the totals.  Not sure how a so-called 'expert' such as yourself can't see it. I also know that it is illegal to bring thumb drives into a ballot counting area during a recount.  And it is illegal to count ballots from generic envelopes with no voter name, return address, etc., on the envelope - all of which occurred in Georgia with video evidence.  Again, not sure how that slips by you.  And finally, it is illegal for an executive officer to make changes to election law without legislative approval.  It is illegal to accept payments from State vendors.  And it is illegal to order that signatures not be checked during a recount, even though State Law requires it.  Yet for some unknown reason, it doesn't even show up on your expert radar.

@Hoodat

Of course I know all that is illegal.  I know it is because I know the law so I know WHY it is illegal.

[libertybele]

@Hoodat

Of course I know all that is illegal.  I know it is because I know the law so I know WHY it is illegal.

Yes, you obviously know election laws and I don't have any doubt that there was monumental fraud and corruption that took place throughout the country.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Hoodat

Of course I know all that is illegal.  I know it is because I know the law so I know WHY it is illegal.

I agree with you in your posts about the law (I downloaded the AZ Statutes you sent me!).  The problem arises if one does not acknowledge what happens when those laws are broken.  A reader might get the mistaken impression one has a blind eye to the fact that laws get broken repeatedly, even more so when lawbreakers are allowed to get off with less than a slap on the wrist.

As with everything else in life:  Balance!

What @libertybele says:

Yes, you obviously know election laws and I don't have any doubt that there was monumental fraud and corruption that took place throughout the country.

[Smokin Joe]

Illegal votes are "illegal," and by definition the laws don't apply.  This is fine with the "win at all costs" Democrats, and they seem to be the ones in power, even when they are in the minority.

@Right_in_Virginia I believe the contention by the truck driver (in PA) was that the ballots had been delivered to the counting center, not a precinct.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Right_in_Virginia I believe the contention by the truck driver (in PA) was that the ballots had been delivered to the counting center, not a precinct.

Correct.  It was a pallet in his contracted truck, not a "truckload," and the trailer was stolen before it could reach any destination.  Nobody knows where it went.  Oh, the origin of the transport was New York!  But, even though he managed to get a waybill (that the post office did not want to give him) and he swore out a affidavit under oath, it's all just another Trump lie.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia I believe the contention by the truck driver (in PA) was that the ballots had been delivered to the counting center, not a precinct.

He contended a helluva lot more than that.

[Cyber Liberty]

He contended a helluva lot more than that.

Yes he did, and I found his testimony compelling.

[Smokin Joe]

He contended a helluva lot more than that.

Yes, he did, I was just sticking to where the ballots were bound.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, he did, I was just sticking to where the ballots were bound.

That's the problem I have...we don't have any idea where they ended up, the man's entire trailer was stolen with the pallet of ballots still in it.  It could be in Guam for all we know.  The ballots were never "found" in the normal sense of the word.

[Smokin Joe]

That's the problem I have...we don't have any idea where they ended up, the man's entire trailer was stolen with the pallet of ballots still in it.  It could be in Guam for all we know.  The ballots were never "found" in the normal sense of the word.

He had a destination he was supposed to take the load to, that would be the place to start.

[Cyber Liberty]

He had a destination he was supposed to take the load to, that would be the place to start.

They would not let him make the delivery (I think it was Harrisburg).  He waited all day, and he had to bitch like mad at the Postal Supervisors just to get a waybill.  He was heavily incentivized to get one, because without it he would have not been paid, and probably fired from the contract to boot.  He was ordered to go to Lancaster County, but I have no idea why.  Is there a counting center there? 

Point is, the Post Office made damned sure we'd never find out where the stolen trailer ended up.

[Smokin Joe]

They would not let him make the delivery (I think it was Harrisburg).  He waited all day, and he had to bitch like mad at the Postal Supervisors just to get a waybill.  He was heavily incentivized to get one, because without it he would have not been paid, and probably fired from the contract to boot.  He was ordered to go to Lancaster County, but I have no idea why.  Is there a counting center there? 

Point is, the Post Office made damned sure we'd never find out where the stolen trailer ended up.

https://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/1022/Current-Election-Results

Note,

Ballots delivered by the USPS 11/4/2020 to 11/6/2020

on that page.

Population 545,000 +/-  might not be enough to hide the fraud they needed to pull out of the rabbit.

But it is only 60 miles or so to Philly....About an hour to get the trailer and /or contents where they wanted them, and tens of thousands of ballots could be stuffed in the box.

[Cyber Liberty]

https://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/1022/Current-Election-Results

Note,  on that page.

Population 545,000 +/-  might not be enough to hide the fraud they needed to pull out of the rabbit.

But it is only 60 miles or so to Philly....About an hour to get the trailer and /or contents where they wanted them, and tens of thousands of ballots could be stuffed in the box.

Since he was ordered to take the load to Lancaster County, then I'd guess that's the last place the fraudulent ballots ended up.