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FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« on: October 08, 2020, 04:00:11 pm »
FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
By Zack Budryk - 10/08/20 11:53 AM EDT

A militia group planned to violently depose Michigan’s government and abduct Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D), the FBI said in a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit, obtained by the Detroit News. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

Federal prosecutors plan to make a fuller statement on the alleged plot later Thursday, according to the newspaper.


At least five men have been charged in connection with the alleged plot, identified as Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta, according to the affidavit.

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 04:05:06 pm »
The five guys were black, spoke with Jamaican accents and wore MAGA hats.

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 04:07:15 pm »
Adam Fox is an American professional ice hockey defenseman for the New York Rangers.

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 06:24:27 pm »
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“There has been a disturbing increase in anti-government rhetoric and the re-emergence of groups that embrace extremist ideologies,” Attorney General Dana Nessel said.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/7-additional-men-in-michigan-militia-group-charged-in-whitmer-kidnapping-plot

How would she know.... unless the Feds were illegally eavesdropping (spying) on these militia groups?   And apparently, anti-government (read: anti-leftist-government) rhetoric is no longer allowed in Amerika.

This could be just another over-reach by fascist leftists (like Whitmer).

This could have been just a bunch of guys emailing each other about what they would "like" to do.   But rest assured, if you are emailing in a similar manner, the feds know about it.  They're spying on us all.


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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 06:29:42 pm »
The five guys were black, spoke with Jamaican accents and wore MAGA hats.

I was thinking Juicy Smollet's attackers were involved.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 06:32:03 pm »
Pertinent comment from TOS....

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It’s funny how the FBI is right there when it’s a clique of nutsos associated with the Right. It’s almost prescient. Like the FBI is setting it up. Very strange.

Yet thousands of violent lefties can arrange medics and radio comms and uniforms and pyrotechnics illegal in those jurisdictions with millions in funding from a proven ex-Nazi and yet the FBI is totally clueless about it all.

Weird, huh?

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 08:19:35 pm »
Sorry but all I could think of after reading "FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor", is why?

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 08:25:04 pm »
I thought the same.  They didn't do a damn thing since even before the 2016 election!  Maybe we can get lucky yet with Whitmer.  Hopefully.   :beer:

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 08:53:23 pm »
Biden Blames Trump for Gretchen Whitmer Kidnap Attempt: ‘Why Can’t the President Just Say Stop?’

Joel B. Pollak 8 Oct 2020

Former Vice President Joe Biden blamed President Donald Trump on Thursday for a foiled kidnapping plot by a group of extremists who intended to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

The FBI arrested six named alleged co-conspirators and seven others on Thursday morning for conspiring to kidnap the governor.

Though it did not name a specific political ideology, the FBI’s criminal complaint alleges that the members of the group “talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient.” Two apparently met at a Second Amendment rally.

One member of the group, Brandon Caserta, was seen in an online video in front of an anarchist flag.



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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 09:00:03 pm »
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 09:28:57 pm »
They're trying to pin this on a militia, which (in Demspeak) necessarily means GOPers. The guy with the anarchist logo seems to belie that notion.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 09:32:47 pm »
Some funny twitter reaction:
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Governor Whitmer was almost kidnapped. They would have thrown her out of the vehicle after five minutes
1:11 PM · Oct 8, 2020


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I remember the short story by O. Henry - “The Ransom of Red Chief” in which outlaws kidnap the child of a rich rancher. The kid drives them crazy so they keep lowering their ransom request hoping to get rid of him, until in the end they pay the rancher to take the kid back.
4:27 PM · Oct 8, 2020


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It sounded to me like another one of those "plots" where the FBI did all the work of plotting & the "extremists" get all the credit/blame. That seems to be the only kind of plot they stop before it happens.
2:30 PM · Oct 8, 2020·


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I do not believe the kidnapping story. Do you?
2:37 PM · Oct 8, 2020·


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Nobody kidnaps politicians LOL.   What are they gonna do then?  Find someone to pay ransom?  No...everyone will be like....okay, fine, just keep her, we’re good.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:56 pm »
Good grief.
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Biden Blames Trump for Gretchen Whitmer Kidnap Attempt, Without Evidence: ‘Why Can’t the President Just Say Stop?’
Joel B. Pollak
8 Oct 2020


Former Vice President Joe Biden blamed President Donald Trump on Thursday for a foiled kidnapping plot by a group of extremists who intended to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

The FBI arrested six named alleged co-conspirators and seven others on Thursday morning for conspiring to kidnap the governor.

Though it did not name a specific political ideology, the FBI’s criminal complaint alleges that the members of the group “talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient.” Two apparently met at a Second Amendment rally.

One member of the group, Brandon Caserta, was seen in an online video in front of an anarchist flag. ...
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 09:38:20 pm »
Some funny twitter reaction:

What was that movie when Bette Midler was kidnapped?  That would be what would happen if Whitless was kidnapped by "K-mart".
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 09:43:00 pm »
I was thinking Juicy Smollet's attackers were involved.

How did the FBI get a line on these guys? Did they put an ad in the papers for a wheelman?

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2020, 09:52:40 pm »
FBI: Militia group planned to kidnap Gov. Whitmer & overthrow government, 13 men charged

Maybe they were the gang that couldn't shoot straight but they planned some bad stuff.  Whitmer is a nitwit in my book but I'm glad they never got to her. 
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 09:56:27 pm »
How did the FBI get a line on these guys? Did they put an ad in the papers for a wheelman?

They core guys were from Ohio.  They began communicating with a group in Michigan to recruit/combine forces.  There was a lot of electronic communication going back and forth.  The Feds picked up on it.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2020, 10:26:24 pm »
They core guys were from Ohio.  They began communicating with a group in Michigan to recruit/combine forces.  There was a lot of electronic communication going back and forth.  The Feds picked up on it.


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Wow! This is big. Brandon Caserta, one of the ringleaders of the group of men arrested for a plot where the group planned to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, hated President Trump too!

"Trump is not your friend dude"

He says Trump is "a tyrant" & calls President Trump an "enemy".
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 11:04:07 pm »
They're trying to pin this on a militia, which (in Demspeak) necessarily means GOPers. The guy with the anarchist logo seems to belie that notion.

Yes, but something stinks about this 'story'.   They supposedly were going to target LEOs.  Right-wingers don't do that.   Righties are on the side of the LEOs.  It's the radical left that target LEOs. Whoever cooked up this 'story' seems to have fogotten about that fact.

But yeah, it smells like BS.   All so they can now blame Trump...?
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2020, 12:45:32 am »
Deep state garbage. She is acting as a tyrant. They should've deposed her themselves. But instead, they are aiding and abetting, while Trump sits in quarantine and does nothing.

But he also continues to allow Cuomo buddy Tony Fauci to dictate policy forevermore.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2020, 12:58:37 am »
https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/delawares-democrat-governor-2019-pardoned-defendant-michigan-kidnap-plot

Delaware’s Democrat governor in 2019 pardoned defendant in Michigan kidnap plot

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Delaware Gov. John Carney, an ally of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, confirmed Friday that last year he pardoned one of the men charged this week by federal prosecutors in a violent plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

Barry Gordon Croft Jr., one of several men charged Thursday in federal court in Michigan, was pardoned in April 2019 for a two-decade old conviction for possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, assault and burglary, according to court records first reported by the Delaware News Journal.

The governor’s office issued a statement confirming the pardon, saying it had been recommended by the state’s Board of Pardons.

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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2020, 01:54:12 am »
Sorry but all I could think of after reading "FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor", is why?

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Mine was almost identical. It was "Ok,so they kidnap her. So what? What are they going to do with her once they have her?S

Hold her for ransom? ROFLMAO!

Such a CLEVER plan! Those boys need to be locked up to keep them from hurting themselves.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2020, 01:57:25 am »
They core guys were from Ohio.  They began communicating with a group in Michigan to recruit/combine forces.  There was a lot of electronic communication going back and forth.  The Feds picked up on it.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2020, 04:51:15 am »
Deep state garbage. She is acting as a tyrant. They should've deposed her themselves. But instead, they are aiding and abetting, while Trump sits in quarantine and does nothing.

But he also continues to allow Cuomo buddy Tony Fauci to dictate policy forevermore.
If Trump interfered in State politics without a clear reason which could be Constitutionally validated (and considerable public outcry to do so, the Pelosi Gang would fill in the blanks on their Impeachment form document and be waving it on CNN within the hour.  Michiganders voted for this hot mess in the Governor's Mansion, it is up to them to remove her or mute her effects by legal or lawful means, under the Michigan Constitution.

From that viewpoint, Trump is completely right staying out of the internal affairs of ANY State not in open rebellion to the Federal compact. In the meantime, despite the cries of "Conspiracy Theory", the Deep State continues to expose itself.

I have little doubt that the unnamed arrested may have been CIs or agents provacateurs, and the attempt to spin Anarchist groups into Right Wing Militias is likely supporting evidence of that. Hopefully, few will be fooled.
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Re: FBI says it foiled plot to kidnap Michigan governor
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2020, 02:37:53 pm »
If Trump interfered in State politics without a clear reason which could be Constitutionally validated (and considerable public outcry to do so, the Pelosi Gang would fill in the blanks on their Impeachment form document and be waving it on CNN within the hour.  Michiganders voted for this hot mess in the Governor's Mansion, it is up to them to remove her or mute her effects by legal or lawful means, under the Michigan Constitution.
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IMO, no support for it other than my cynicism, some of the excesses by Cuomo (I need 40,000 ventilators immediately!), Whitmer, and others have been trolling Trump to overstep his Constitutional authority.
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