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« Reply #275 on: August 06, 2020, 03:56:10 am »
Well, not taking a side is surrender no matter how you slice it.... The time for passive aggressive action is passed.

Not if neither side is doing right. Lesser evil thinking is destitute.


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« Reply #276 on: August 06, 2020, 03:58:08 am »
The only thing I can figure @EdinVA is a that there are some few here who are part of the crowd who advocate letting it all crash and burn then rebuild from the ashes.

Never going to happen!


No, it is more about the exercise in futility. It stops nothing, and causes your side to accept an ever diminishing return.

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« Reply #277 on: August 06, 2020, 03:59:26 am »
Hmmm...Repubs pro life.....Dems pro death.....   How is that the same?

... And homo marriage is now accepted. A diminished return... A HUGE ass loss.

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« Reply #278 on: August 06, 2020, 04:00:34 am »
Well, his point the we all have to get involved and demand adherence to the constitution is well taken, but to late.
We are hanging on the cliff of socialism by our fingernails and now is not the time to engage in academics.

Keep kicking that can. The trajectory is predictable.

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« Reply #279 on: August 06, 2020, 04:01:05 am »
Repubs being pro life is fading fast.

Almost gone.

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« Reply #280 on: August 06, 2020, 04:02:10 am »
No, it is more about the exercise in futility. It stops nothing, and causes your side to accept an ever diminishing return.

Rationalizing a lack of action...

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« Reply #281 on: August 06, 2020, 04:02:30 am »
If they own your vote you have no say in what they do.

Simple as that.

FACTS. Plantations.

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« Reply #282 on: August 06, 2020, 04:04:05 am »
So what does a person do?  Sit around and bellyache about things, but DO NOTHING?  Seems like that's what I'm hearing here.  Not that there's anything wrong with that....LOLOLOL (Insert Seinfeld reference).

Seems that's what all y'all are doing to me. Repeating the same action over and over again expecting different results...

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« Reply #283 on: August 06, 2020, 04:05:01 am »
Doing what Republicans have been doing is how we got here. No principles. No spine. Lesser evil. The evil has reached critical mass now.

EXACTLY. There is no opposition.

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« Reply #284 on: August 06, 2020, 04:06:08 am »
Well, I happen to believe that if the Marxists win, it will be our last election and I will not surrender.

If you do not participate (vote) it is surrender and I will guarantee that you will NEVER get that vote back.

Emotion. You know, the Dems are saying the very same thing about Tumpy.

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« Reply #285 on: August 06, 2020, 04:06:12 am »
We all know you are rooting for Biden, so knock off the bullshit and just say so.  Get honest!  The truth shall set you free!  Is that too much to ask?  Or should I just kick back and let you insult the intelligence of our good Members?
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Er...................suggest you cease mentioning intelligence.
I told you and your fellow travelers long, long ago that Trump is irrelevant.
The essence of the problem is that we have lost the values/virtues of
the Statesmen who birthed our nation and surrendered to politics/politicians.
Obviously you've honed self-embarrassment into a skill !
 

 

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« Reply #286 on: August 06, 2020, 04:09:23 am »
People are asking the wrong question.  Seeking the wrong answer.

They want to be ruled. They desire a king. So they invent one. It is impatience. They want instant gratification.

You nor I or anyone was meant to be ruled over. By any other person.

We suffered long to pare that down to ONE person, and he ain't here yet.

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« Reply #287 on: August 06, 2020, 04:13:18 am »
To think we can affect change going forward by turning all levers of government and the courts over to the Socialists for a generation belies even a rudimentary understanding of how things are going to work if we lose this election.

Those levers are already in the hands of socialists.

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We will have no voice.  We will have no influence, we will have no place in the White House, no vote in either the house or the senate.  And if one voice should sneak through, the courts will stifle it.

Already the case. the ball has not moved even an inch to the right in thirty years. Always leftward.
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« Reply #288 on: August 06, 2020, 04:14:37 am »
Rationalizing a lack of action...

No, more like keeping your powder dry and saving ammo till you have a shot.

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« Reply #289 on: August 06, 2020, 04:33:20 am »
Well, his point the we all have to get involved and demand adherence to the constitution is well taken, but to late.
We are hanging on the cliff of socialism by our fingernails and now is not the time to engage in academics.

No @EdinVA the point is that 'Miricles do not cluster! We are not going to get another shot at this if we lose this one.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #290 on: August 06, 2020, 04:43:20 am »
No @EdinVA the point is that 'Miricles do not cluster! We are not going to get another shot at this if we lose this one.

What miracle?

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« Reply #291 on: August 06, 2020, 05:34:53 am »
Those levers are already in the hands of socialists.

No, not all.  You should pay attention to the change in the courts that's begun and the education the American people are getting and embracing from the President on the nature of the media and the enemy within, private education and homeschooling, prolife policies, the value of sovereignty, citizenship, the 2nd Amendment and America First on the world stage.

The socialists will blow up this bridge we're on and there'll be no going back.

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Already the case. the ball has not moved even an inch to the right in thirty years. Always leftward.

So what?  How does this justify not standing with those who want to stop it now?

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« Reply #292 on: August 06, 2020, 06:26:14 am »
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Smokin, a serious reflection.
Man's earliest structured culture/society arose in Sumer (Mesopotamia) almost years 6,000 past, headed by a Monarch, the norm of rule across the globe till the eve of the Great War.
Many successive cultures continued to improve Man's condition by the application
of creative ideas to daily life; among them the rules of Agriculture, the discovery of
the elements of Nature as a means of improving Man health thereby extending his life
and the application of the order of Mathematics enabling him to construct bridges,
roads and tunnels, as well as structures, extending his reach/vision.
As Plato knew, a spiritual awareness was required for creativity to flourish, yet none
of our forebears were motivated by riches, as history attests.
Yet what about us who proclaim our greatness, daily. What proof is offered supporting this???
Why it's the testament of the 'fat wallet', doncha know!
I raise this, not as an argument, but rather because I sense a sea change in attitude is
bubbling below the surface and playing a role in the sturm und drang that plagues us
for a lot longer that we realize/understand.

 
It is sad that a man's "success" is measured by the thickness of his wallet rather than the number who will genuinely weep at his passing, but then, who decided what success is? Rich people? 

Yet daily, we hear (despite all their means of making such things quiet) how miserable and messed up their lives often are. So, if you wish, keep that scoreboard.

I'll take the small rowboat I first gave a girlfriend a ride in over a yacht that has parking problems.

I prefer an older vehicle I know well and don't slavishly fret over like someone who spends a fortune for the newest, latest, most exotic. Mine may not go fastest, but I'd bet I'll beat them off the light at least 8 times out of ten, and still get around when it snows.

My house is humble. It doesn't take an army to clean and maintain, and is not the stuff of awe, but within these walls infused with laughter are memories of Christmas' Past, of elders and children loved, of triumph and disaster, of prayers to Almighty God over every meal. It is home.

My day to day attire, too, is humble, for I find beauty in function and durability. I'll not balk at helping a friend over fretting about 'ruining' a suit or tie or fancy shoes, because me wearing those is a rare event indeed.

I know what it is with these arms to hold a brand new life, and to say goodbye to one. I have beheld tremendous joy, and abysmal woe, all for reasons which made the pecuniary scoreboard irrelevant. I have, as an adult, played in the creek, as a child would, with no need of fancy gadgets, just things found at hand, and been happy.

I have been to enough places to learn to find beauty almost anywhere I go, from desolate wastes, to verdant gardens, to marvel at the great constructs of man, yet be at home with the most humble of them. I have held the bones of those before me, and seen the promise of some who follow, swam in waters, fresh and salt, breathed air below the level of the sea and from mountaintops where it is thin, and marveled at the wonder (and sometimes fury) of God's creations.

In all this I find greater love, not for the art, but the Artist, as I, another of His creations, am at play in a wondrous universe of His devising.
 
And while I appreciate all humans' efforts to rival or copy such, will never know the wonder at a tall building that I do at a mountain, never the awe of crafted pools I have felt canoeing in a salt marsh at sunset, nor sound such a marvel as a beating heart.

 I don't care how they keep score. I am rich indeed.
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« Reply #293 on: August 06, 2020, 06:27:20 am »
Repubs being pro life is fading fast.

And still half as fast being fiscally conservative.  Roamer's uniparty theory isn't a 100% correct yet, but it won't be long.
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« Reply #294 on: August 06, 2020, 06:37:12 am »
I ain't looking for "I todya so!".

I want definition.
I see where you are going, let the light go out so people will recognize it when it next shines in the darkness...

But these, rather than be in awe of and desirous of the light would quench it because you didn't bring enough for everyone.

Remember teachers acting as if it was our job to provide gum for the rest of the class if we wanted to chew a bit? That's where this shit began.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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« Reply #295 on: August 06, 2020, 06:38:47 am »
You're pretty optimistic.

There's probably a 50% chance Biden doesn't make it to election day...
Hillary isn't the VP nominee yet... :pop41:
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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« Reply #296 on: August 06, 2020, 06:51:25 am »
You're certifiable!
Not so fast!

The real governing isn't done from the Oval Office. That's just where bucks stop.

Real government is the product of countless anonymous bureaucratic functionaries crafting "policy" behind closed doors, promulgating all the little ins and outs of the nuts and bolts of grinding through the parsecs of red tape carefully woven around the rules about getting anything done. for the outsider, it is a Gordian knot of obstructions and fees, always fees, and penalties if you didn't do it 'just so', only 'just so' is something different every time you talk to someone else from that office--inevitable, because the person you last talked to is on maternity leave/transferred/is on vacation/retired/left to take a job with Megacorp because they KNOW all those miserable little rules and can navigate the red tape, or simply 'stepped away from their desk and is unavailable at this time'.

It is this leviathan, this quagmire, this insatiable blob of government at a cellular level which is really Government. Even when the rules are decreed from on high, these are the levels which ultimately decide that that decree does not apply to your situation...Every center of government in Oz was connected, little munchkin, by the yellow brick road. It takes a lot of gold and goldbrickers to maintain.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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« Reply #297 on: August 06, 2020, 06:52:42 am »
You feel it because it’s absolutely true. The left has gone to war and there’re only a handful of figures opposing them, trump among them. He loses and it is over. The left will be off the chain.
If that happens, then the nature of the war will change. 1861 will look like a picnic in the park.
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« Reply #298 on: August 06, 2020, 07:34:07 am »
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 Trump is irrelevant.
The essence of the problem is that we have lost the values/virtues of
the Statesmen who birthed our nation and surrendered to politics/politicians.


Edited to remove an ad hominem wrapper around a seminal core.

You have the problem correct, and it has been thus since half the States were forcibly 'repatriated' into a monolithic Union.

But the first step I'd take is that voting would go back to 21 year old citizens who were taxpayers or who had served in the Armed Forces honorably or were in active duty.
Let those with skin in the game decide.
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« Reply #299 on: August 06, 2020, 07:35:15 am »
No, more like keeping your powder dry and saving ammo till you have a shot.
"...until you see the whites of their eyes!"
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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