Surgeon general urges widespread mask use: 'It is not a suppression of your freedom'

[roamer_1]

Right.   And do you see anyone actually holding China accountable for the lives lost and damage done?  Me neither.

That's right. But that is little to do with Tumpy. There is a much bigger game afoot.

[240B]

Outside this morning. The neighborhood cat, which I call ghost-cat because it has a way of sneaking into my home and has done so many times, came slinking up in all her glorious orange. I petted her without thinking. But now I'm thinking, if I have COVID (which I don't) then didn't I just paint the cat with the virus? Guess if I had a mask on, everybody would still be safe.

Have read several articles about how pets cannot spread the virus. This is beyond STUPID reporting. It is ridiculous. Of course they can. The Left is pushing pets are no danger not to alarm their obviously ignorant base.

It is one thing to say that pets cannot contract COVID. OK. It is an entirely different conclusion to claim that pets cannot spread a virus. In fact, that is the exact Leftist argument against us. That even if we don't get the virus, we can still spread it. However, this apparently does not apply to animals. All of my animals will be fitted with masks today. That is the magic JuJu that stops COVID as we have all be told. If that cat had a mask, by force of law, it could not spread anything.

[XenaLee]

Outside this morning. The neighborhood cat, which I call ghost-cat because it has a way of sneaking into my home and has done so many times, came slinking up in all her glorious orange. I petted her without thinking. But now I'm thinking, if I have COVID (which I don't) then didn't I just paint the cat with the virus? Guess if I had a mask on, everybody would still be safe.

Have read several articles about how pets cannot spread the virus. This is beyond STUPID reporting. It is ridiculous. Of course they can. The Left is pushing pets are no danger not to alarm their obviously ignorant base.

It is one thing to say that pets cannot contract COVID. OK. It is an entirely different conclusion to claim that pets cannot spread a virus. In fact, that is the exact Leftist argument against us. That even if we don't get the virus, we can still spread it. However, this apparently does not apply to animals. All of my animals will be fitted with masks today. That is the magic JuJu that stops COVID as we have all be told. If that cat had a mask, by force of law, it could not spread anything.

Uhhhh.....

this is satire.... right?   

[Applewood]

https://twitter.com/LorenzoTheCat/status/1276965449331281920/photo/1

[Victoria33]

Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous. So far our city council voted against mandating wearing masks but they are advising and requesting that everyone wear masks when entering a business.  Today I went to the doctors and there was a sign on the door -- no mask no entry -- but there was a person without a mask in the waiting room.  All chairs were 6 ft. apart.  One of these days, this will all be over.   

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

[sneakypete]

It's probably not that few bother to read it, it's more likely that we/they had already read similar findings.   All it does is reiterate what we already knew.  Wearing the mask is just a 'feel-good' symbolic gesture to make everyone around you feel safer. It's a false sense of security and could end up doing more harm.  But we knew that.

@XenaLee

That is half the reason I wear my Lincoln Welding face shield.

The other half is I got tired of having to tell people I didn't even know that I am exempt from the state requirement to wear a mask because I have COPD. I was just about to the point where I was ready to start grabbing and holding people by the throat as I explained it,and decided to just do myself a favor and reduce stress by wearing the shield. It didn't affect my breathing in any way,and I already had it anyhow,so it seemed like the best solution.

[Smokin Joe]

That's right. But that is little to do with Tumpy. There is a much bigger game afoot.

Well, duh. We're at war and we don't even know it.

[mountaineer]

What Are We Doing to Our Children?
Jul 16
Written By Denise McAllister

The North Carolina governor has issued a decree that all students returning to school in the fall must wear a mask and social distance. This, despite the fact that 99.9 percent of children who get COVID don’t die from it and most don’t even have symptoms. Comparably, more children K–12 die from various other forms of the flu than from COVID, yet we are perpetuating a culture of fear among children in a form of politicized mass hysteria that treats COVID as if it were the Black Plague, which had a 100 percent mortality rate in its respiratory form across  ALL demographics.

I have to ask, What are we doing to our children? Some would say we’re protecting them. Others would add that we’re protecting any vulnerable adults they might come in contact with—despite growing evidence that young children are not contagious because the virus does not hang onto them like it does older people. We are also getting more evidence that people are not as contagious when they’re asymptomatic, as once believed, which means that standard protocol for any sickness would be sufficient—stay at home if you’re sick or if you immuno-compromised.

Instead of using common sense, we’re covering our young children and enshrouding them in an environment of fear, all the while calling it “kindness to others.” This could have damaging long-term effects on our children that far outweigh any threat from COVID.  ...

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[DB]

Right.   And do you see anyone actually holding China accountable for the lives lost and damage done?  Me neither.

China needs to pay dearly.

[jmyrlefuller]

What happened to the virus dies in the heat therefore summer months should kill it off?  Seems like it was wrong.

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

We do know it spreads in close quarters, in which weather is largely irrelevant. If you're close to a person, you'll breathe in their droplets before the sun has a chance to kill it, inside or out, which is why it was incredibly stupid for public officials to turn a blind eye to the riots and protests. BUT... the fomite hypothesis, the idea that it can be picked up on surfaces (which hasn't really been proven or disproven), might be affected. Untraceable infections from surfaces and wind stirring up the virus on the ground and allowing it to be inhaled might pick up in the winter months with less UV light.

[DB]

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

Once it got hot and dry in AZ it really picked up here. Hopefully monsoon will come along upping the humidity calming it down a little.

[jmyrlefuller]

Looking at the Worldometers charts, it appears Arizona seems to have begun to turn their situation around. Florida might have, but it's not quite clear yet. Texas is still having issues.

[DB]

If it's wrong, it should rule out any "second wave" talk.

We do know it spreads in close quarters, in which weather is largely irrelevant. If you're close to a person, you'll breathe in their droplets before the sun has a chance to kill it, inside or out, which is why it was incredibly stupid for public officials to turn a blind eye to the riots and protests. BUT... the fomite hypothesis, the idea that it can be picked up on surfaces (which hasn't really been proven or disproven), might be affected. Untraceable infections from surfaces and wind stirring up the virus on the ground and allowing it to be inhaled might pick up in the winter months with less UV light.

It is well known that with higher humidity it degrades how long viruses can linger in the air. It isn't understood why but there's a high correlation between humidity and viral infection rate.

[libertybele]

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

@Victoria33  I purchased a couple of silicone masks with some sort of adhesive on the side for a disposable filters and I purchased extra filters.  Woah, talk about hot and I had a hard time breathing, I could hardly wait to get out of the store so I could take it off.  Anyways, I would be interested in purchasing the filters you mentioned from England if you could provide that information, I would appreciate it.  I only have one anti-viral mask that I purchased years ago left.  So, all I currently have are the silicone masks that I can't breathe out of or the flimsy paper masks that are cheaply made and don't seem likely to do a whole lot.

[jmyrlefuller]

People here who think this is (...) a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

[DB]

@libertybele
@mystery-ak

liberty, there are reasons some people cannot wear a mask.  I am sure that is what you saw in the doctor's office when one person did not have a mask on.  There was a sign in my doctor's office this week which listed conditions for one not to wear a mask.

Other information:
Doctors/nurses in hospitals treating/close to patients that have a communicable disease, have always worn N95 masks and face shields, from the time they were available, plus a gown to protect their clothing, plus special gloves.  Cloth masks only stop "some" of nose/mouth excretions of the wearer, but that is better than nothing.

I had appointment with family doctor 3 days ago, and wore an N95 and a face shield. The doctor asked where I got the N95.  Told him I had a box full due to being an EMT.  He said I was lucky I had those.  He knows they work.

I will be getting a new mask from England.  My son found these being made by a company that started making them after the virus became bad there.  They are a triple cloth (the cloth is an English made cloth), and with a removable filter and another filter included in the order.  Tests done with an aerosol showed the mask does filter 90% of the aerosol released in the air near the mask.  At 3 ft. from an infected person, you are safe with this mask, and at 6 ft., you are safe with this mask.  This does not protect the eyes. 
Regular glasses help, but there are special glasses for this, but if one uses a face shield along with this new mask, the eyes are protected along with the nose and mouth.

People here who think this is a hoax, think this is a government move to make them do something they do not want to do, are ridiculous.  They are like children, "But Mommm, I don't want to do that."     

Here in Texas, we know how bad it is. We had 10,975 new cases yesterday, July 15.  Corpus Christi had 500 new cases yesterday.  Refrigerated trucks are here and more coming in to store dead bodies due to so many dying and one or more of these new trucks are going to Corpus Christi. 

I don't know what Gov. Abbott will do next, whether he will issue an executive order restricting people to their houses and shut down business as was done earlier.  I JUST SAW GOV. ABBOTT ON TV WHILE WRITING THIS:  HE SAYS HE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN TEXAS AGAIN.

Before masks became particularly political: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed

[DB]

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

A paper or cloth mask is strictly psychological. It is "doing something" to make people feel safer. There's lots of data regarding masks and virus spread prior to this event. None that I've seen supports the claim that these masks do squat. As the New England Journal of Medicine article above states.

[roamer_1]

@Victoria33  I purchased a couple of silicone masks with some sort of adhesive on the side for a disposable filters and I purchased extra filters.  Woah, talk about hot and I had a hard time breathing, I could hardly wait to get out of the store so I could take it off.  Anyways, I would be interested in purchasing the filters you mentioned from England if you could provide that information, I would appreciate it.  I only have one anti-viral mask that I purchased years ago left.  So, all I currently have are the silicone masks that I can't breathe out of or the flimsy paper masks that are cheaply made and don't seem likely to do a whole lot.

If you really are worried, go buy a painter's respirator and a roll of paper and charcoal filters. Twenty should cover the mask.

It has a skull cap you cinch down once the silicone mask is in place. It has an exahust port, so your exhalation moisture evacuates... I have literally been in one of those masks all day long. many a time. Way more comfortable, and far more effective.

[roamer_1]

Such extreme, prolonged and widespread measures have never been attempted for virus control in America's history. The idea that government is using this as a plot to seize power and kill off the notion of limited government is not only possible, not even just likely, but proven—as anyone who has watched a Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer or Andrew Cuomo press conference can attest. Denying this is what is ridiculous.

That's right.

[bigheadfred]

I got an email from Sam's Club they will start mandatory masks for shoppers 7/20. Heard Wallyworld will do the same.

[Cyber Liberty]

I got an email from Sam's Club they will start mandatory masks for shoppers 7/20. Heard Wallyworld will do the same.

Yeah, I got that too.  Yaay!  Free spit masks!

[libertybele]

If you really are worried, go buy a painter's respirator and a roll of paper and charcoal filters. Twenty should cover the mask.

It has a skull cap you cinch down once the silicone mask is in place. It has an exahust port, so your exhalation moisture evacuates... I have literally been in one of those masks all day long. many a time. Way more comfortable, and far more effective.

Only problem is, Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, Amazon and the local paint shops have been out of stock for months. 

[Smokin Joe]

Once it got hot and dry in AZ it really picked up here. Hopefully monsoon will come along upping the humidity calming it down a little.

Maybe it hitch hikes on dust....

[roamer_1]

Maybe it hitch hikes on dust....

It migrates through children's nightmares and wafts into existence in the shadows of demons. It is impervious to heat and light, and cold and dark... It swims in oceans and is found on the highest peaks. And the only hope we have is in a magical elixer called 'vaccine', made from the dust of a thousand unicorn farts...

We are well and truly all going to die.

[roamer_1]

Only problem is, Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, Amazon and the local paint shops have been out of stock for months.

Yeah, yeah... My local paint house has em... out back... you know, for painters. If you have kith or kin that is in the business... well, you know...