Surgeon general urges widespread mask use: 'It is not a suppression of your freedom'

[roamer_1]

What makes you think they aren't obeying?  Don't tell me you're believing the press!

See my post above this one. Yet to see if businesses bow to the governors dictate, but I bet they will.

[libertybele]

Well we got the axe today.... Our dem governor has ruled that any county with more than four active cases (which is pretty well every county), mask wearing is mandatory in businesses, with the businesses being fined $300 for first incident, and $500 for every incident thereafter.

Flathead county has a total of 100 cases, and most of those are imported by folks coming in to their summer homes.

Sonsabitches are gonna make me do it... whether I damnwell want to or not. Well screw em. I wont anyhow.

Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous. So far our city council voted against mandating wearing masks but they are advising and requesting that everyone wear masks when entering a business.  Today I went to the doctors and there was a sign on the door -- no mask no entry -- but there was a person without a mask in the waiting room.  All chairs were 6 ft. apart. 

One of these days, this will all be over.   

[XenaLee]

Yes, it seems a bit ridiculous. So far our city council voted against mandating wearing masks but they are advising and requesting that everyone wear masks when entering a business.  Today I went to the doctors and there was a sign on the door -- no mask no entry -- but there was a person without a mask in the waiting room.  All chairs were 6 ft. apart. 

One of these days, this will all be over.   

Ehh... I hate to break it to ya, but.... it won't be 'over' until a DemocRat wins the presidency.   Which means that for another four years we will have to endure the left's constant and ongoing attempts to melt down the economy using Corona virus...so they can "dump Trump".  They'll be working towards 2024 as soon as their tears (finally) dry on November 4.  I have no illusions that it will all go away.  And if or when they do win back the WH, we'll all still be doubly screwed as a nation.   Sorry.

[Cyber Liberty]

See my post above this one. Yet to see if businesses bow to the governors dictate, but I bet they will.

Just show them the Griz beard and demand "Just where should I put it, pal?"  Really, I don't see the point in this shit, but there I was, going into Tractor Supply for birdseed.  Did our baby quail deserve their feed?  We were out.

[sneakypete]

See my post above this one. Yet to see if businesses bow to the governors dictate, but I bet they will.

@roamer_1

Of course they will. They have no choice. The government is the one who OWNS THEIR BUSINESS LICENSES. THEY don't own them,they just buy a permit each year to be ALLOWED TO OPERATE a business at that stated address,doing that type of business.

They are completely at the mercy of the state.

[libertybele]

@roamer_1

Of course they will. They have no choice. The government is the one who OWNS THEIR BUSINESS LICENSES. THEY don't own them,they just buy a permit each year to be ALLOWED TO OPERATE a business at that stated address,doing that type of business.

They are completely at the mercy of the state.

True.  But are they then going to create a department to go around and make sure businesses are complying?? That's a lot of restaurants, bars, grocery stores, retail shops, etc., to check on or are they going to be real a-holes and give an 800# so people can report businesses not complying.  IOW they would have to have a way to reinforce the mandate.

I find it interesting as time has gone on, retailers, offices, doctors, libraries, etc., have all implemented CDC guidelines around here as far as social distancing but yet our city council voted against a mask mandate. Now that our number of cases have increased more people are wearing masks, but I'd say 30% still don't wear a mask.  Today, Walmart announced that ALL people must wear masks or no entry -- we'll see how their business fares around here. There is nothing at my neighborhood Walmart that I need that I can't get elsewhere.

[Applewood]

True.  But are they then going to create a department to go around and make sure businesses are complying?? That's a lot of restaurants, bars, grocery stores, retail shops, etc., to check on or are they going to be real a-holes and give an 800# so people can report businesses not complying.  IOW they would have to have a way to reinforce the mandate.

I find it interesting as time has gone on, retailers, offices, doctors, libraries, etc., have all implemented CDC guidelines around here as far as social distancing but yet our city council voted against a mask mandate. Now that our number of cases have increased more people are wearing masks, but I'd say 30% still don't wear a mask.  Today, Walmart announced that ALL people must wear masks or no entry -- we'll see how their business fares around here. There is nothing at my neighborhood Walmart that I need that I can't get elsewhere.

in this state the powers that be don't need a mask police per se.  They have people reporting on anyone and any business that doesn't comply.  So far, I don't believe it's an organized "secret police," but maybe that is coming. 

[libertybele]

in this state the powers that be don't need a mask police per se.  They have people reporting on anyone and any business that doesn't comply.  So far, I don't believe it's an organized "secret police," but maybe that is coming.

Gottcha. I was surprised that our city council voted the mandate down but glad to see that some of the people who live here full time and have been around awhile still have some clout and most are conservative. 

[roamer_1]

One of these days, this will all be over.   

No it will not. They have found their unicorn - The perfect way to bring everyone to heel, a perfect way to get nervous nancys to inform on their neighbors, a perfect control over businesses..

This won't ever be over till it is put down hard.

[Cyber Liberty]

in this state the powers that be don't need a mask police per se.  They have people reporting on anyone and any business that doesn't comply.  So far, I don't believe it's an organized "secret police," but maybe that is coming.

Karens.  They have Karens to report, we've already seen it.

[Cyber Liberty]

No it will not. They have found their unicorn - The perfect way to bring everyone to heel, a perfect way to get nervous nancys to inform on their neighbors, a perfect control over businesses..

This won't ever be over till it is put down hard.

I think it's going to be put down, I hope.  Good and hard.

[roamer_1]

I think it's going to be put down, I hope.  Good and hard.

I hope so too, though people are sheep.

As for me, I will just have to hunker down again again. he pantry ain't all the way full. not by a long shot, but here I am eating it down sommore. I can easy go a couple months, and by then I should be past harvest. Looks like I'll be doing it old school this time.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Of course they will. They have no choice. The government is the one who OWNS THEIR BUSINESS LICENSES. THEY don't own them,they just buy a permit each year to be ALLOWED TO OPERATE a business at that stated address,doing that type of business.

They are completely at the mercy of the state.

Not if all of em, or a lot of them fail to comply. But that is probably too much to ask for.

[sneakypete]

Not if all of em, or a lot of them fail to comply. But that is probably too much to ask for.

@roamer_1

Well,I may be wrong,but I have never lived anywhere or heard of anywhere that you can buy things wholesale without having a business license to operate at a specific location.

Without that license you are going to pay retail or close to it for everything you use or sell,and it would be awful hard to turn a profit and earn a living when you are buying at retail prices.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Well,I may be wrong,but I have never lived anywhere or heard of anywhere that you can buy things wholesale without having a business license to operate at a specific location.

Without that license you are going to pay retail or close to it for everything you use or sell,and it would be awful hard to turn a profit and earn a living when you are buying at retail prices.

Not if everyone in town ignored the edict. At that point the edict is nullified.

[sneakypete]

Not if everyone in town ignored the edict. At that point the edict is nullified.

@roamer_1

Good luck with that one. You can't even get everybody to show up for free beer and free porn

[mountaineer]

The article goes on to discuss the masking protocol in healthcare settings, but even then:

It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis.

[Bigun]

The article goes on to discuss the masking protocol in healthcare settings, but even then:

Yeah! I posted the article here several days ago but I guess only a very few bother to read things like that.

@mountaineer

[XenaLee]

Yeah! I posted the article here several days ago but I guess only a very few bother to read things like that.

@mountaineer

It's probably not that few bother to read it, it's more likely that we/they had already read similar findings.   All it does is reiterate what we already knew.  Wearing the mask is just a 'feel-good' symbolic gesture to make everyone around you feel safer.  It's a false sense of security and could end up doing more harm.  But we knew that.

[Cyber Liberty]

The article goes on to discuss the masking protocol in healthcare settings, but even then:

    It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis.

I've been calling masks a "talisman" for months.  They're that effective, like having a magic broach that makes you invisible or impervious to arrows.

[Bigun]

Ahem! Cough! Cough! About all those positive test results!

[XenaLee]

I've been calling masks a "talisman" for months.  They're that effective, like having a magic broach that makes you invisible or impervious to arrows.

I actually wish I had a "magic" broach (Harry Potter cloak?) that made me invisible.  I'd sneak in with no mask and wreak havoc among all the SJWs by pulling their masks down/off.  Damn... that would be fun.

[XenaLee]

Ahem! Cough! Cough! About all those positive test results!

This is starting to look like The Walking Dead.  Only, instead of everyone having the virus and turning into a zombie... everyone merely "tests positive" for the Plandemic leftists' cooked books and shutdown agenda.  Because...

Orange Man Bad.

[roamer_1]

This is starting to look like The Walking Dead.  Only, instead of everyone having the virus and turning into a zombie... everyone merely "tests positive" for the Plandemic leftists' cooked books and shutdown agenda.  Because...

Orange Man Bad.

This is WAY WAY bigger than the Orange man. This is world wide...

[XenaLee]

This is WAY WAY bigger than the Orange man. This is world wide...

Right.   And do you see anyone actually holding China accountable for the lives lost and damage done?  Me neither.