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Again, with emphasis, the far right is not nihilistic.

I don't consider you "far right."  You are a "Normal."
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I don't consider you "far right."  You are a "Normal."

No, I am far right - Principled Conservatism is as far to the right as the right goes.
This scale that seems to honor moderates is false.

The scale runs from individualism to collectivism, from liberty to tyranny.
Anarchy and Nihilism belong to the left, and are part of the process leading to tyranny.

Moderation is nothing but a chickenshit that thinks the line down the middle of the road is safe. Neither long on smarts nor courage.

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No, I am far right - Principled Conservatism is as far to the right as the right goes.
This scale that seems to honor moderates is false.

The scale runs from individualism to collectivism, from liberty to tyranny.
Anarchy and Nihilism belong to the left, and are part of the process leading to tyranny.

Moderation is nothing but a chickenshit that thinks the line down the middle of the road is safe. Neither long on smarts nor courage.

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No, I am far right - Principled Conservatism is as far to the right as the right goes.
This scale that seems to honor moderates is false.

The scale runs from individualism to collectivism, from liberty to tyranny.
Anarchy and Nihilism belong to the left, and are part of the process leading to tyranny.

Moderation is nothing but a chickenshit that thinks the line down the middle of the road is safe. Neither long on smarts nor courage.

LOL!   You have ALL the answers to our problems as a country.

Too bad that we live in Realville....not on a game board. 

The country has allowed our children to be indoctrinated...while two-income households were securing their notion of the American Dream.

We're f***ed at this point unless we become dictators and completely revamp and take over the Education system.

...which is impossible because the Left owns Academia.

To get rid of everybody and start anew is NOT going to provide favorable optics for decades. There are countless elections in between.
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LOL!   You have ALL the answers to our problems as a country.

Too bad that we live in Realville....not on a game board. 

The country has allowed our children to be indoctrinated...while two-income households were securing their notion of the American Dream.

We're f***ed at this point unless we become dictators and completely revamp and take over the Education system.

...which is impossible because the Left owns Academia.

To get rid of everybody and start anew is NOT going to provide favorable optics for decades. There are countless elections in between.

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What the hell are you carrying on about?

I got the insult alright, standard myopic DCP fare... but then you go twizzling off into some sparkly little wandering notion like a malformed bottle-rocket abortively finding the ground...

Ground Control to Major Tom... WTF, over?

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@DCPatriot

What the hell are you carrying on about?

I got the insult alright, standard myopic DCP fare... but then you go twizzling off into some sparkly little wandering notion like a malformed bottle-rocket abortively finding the ground...

Ground Control to Major Tom... WTF, over?

Your idealist Conservative bent when it comes to deficits has blinded you.   It works in the classroom.  At this moment, on the street, NOT SO MUCH.

To change peoples' mind toward Conservatism and Republicanism would take a complete overhaul of the education system.

That of course isn't pragmatic, because the entire MSM is as corrupt as Academia.

They would never allow us to get away with it.   We fulfill their charge that we're Hitleresque

I'm not patient enough to write in paragraphs like I did many years ago.  Learned long ago that people such as yourself just aren't worth the trouble.

Have a good day.
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@DCPatriot

What the hell are you carrying on about?

I got the insult alright, standard myopic DCP fare... but then you go twizzling off into some sparkly little wandering notion like a malformed bottle-rocket abortively finding the ground...

Ground Control to Major Tom... WTF, over?

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Sorry I triggered you.  But please point out my 'insult' in the post to which your refer.   

If I insult you, it won't be translucent to anyone. 
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Your idealist Conservative bent when it comes to deficits has blinded you.   It works in the classroom.  At this moment, on the street, NOT SO MUCH.

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No, Conservatism works all the time. And always will. It is not idealist to adhere to what works. To adhere to and advocate for Truth.

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To change peoples' mind toward Conservatism and Republicanism would take a complete overhaul of the education system.

Foremost, your concatenation of Conservatism and Republicanism is false. Either you are Conservative or you are not. Republicans have nothing to do wit it, having broken the charter made with Conservatives lately through Reagan.

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That of course isn't pragmatic, because the entire MSM is as corrupt as Academia.

They would never allow us to get away with it.   We fulfill their charge that we're Hitleresque

I'm not patient enough to write in paragraphs like I did many years ago.  Learned long ago that people such as yourself just aren't worth the trouble.

Have a good day.

And again, pragmatism has nothing to do with it, Either you adhere to what works, or you do not. Your argument being 'We can't do what works because it won't work'... Which is hilariously circular... And advocates doing what doesn't work instead...  :laugh:

I won't go up against the education system - The education system Republicans let grow and even fed when they should have risen in opposition (with the Conservatives). Too big to kill now... But your thinking is collective and only sees collective answers... The answer I have is like to my kind - Pull YOUR kids out of the education system and teach them yourself... Liberty has responsibility. Then at least your own are not part of the problem. I cannot change them all, but I can change my own.

So no, Standing on what's right and true is not just the right thing to do... It is the only thing to do.

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No, Conservatism works all the time. And always will. It is not idealist to adhere to what works. To adhere to and advocate for Truth.What you see as truth, is very different from what others see as truth...the reality is, there are roughly 340 million versions of what is "truth" within the nation. Who's truth prevails? We can't even agree amongst conservatives and amongst Christians on a single definition of truth...so rest assured, YOUR truth is of no more value than anyone elses. The answer, of course, is that we must use reason and empathy and a democratic process to reach a functional compromise. On this site, we are conservatives...despite your personal claim that only you and those in complete agreement with you fit that description. But the mark of civilization...and an absolute requirement for a functional Republc is the ability to compromise, and since at least half the country has a different version of the "truth" than we do, compromise is also "what works"...in fact, it is the ONLY thing that works short of assuming dictatorial powers.

Foremost, your concatenation of Conservatism and Republicanism is false. Either you are Conservative or you are not. Republicans have nothing to do wit it, having broken the charter made with Conservatives lately through Reagan. Despite your protestations, the Republican party IS the only politically functional repository of conservatism in the United States. Your being part of one rather small sliver of that conservative coalition within the party does not change this fact. If conservatives cannot disagree amongst themselves whilst coming together to win national elections, than the cause of conservatism is doomed...by those who claim their pure version alone is acceptable. Narrow minded stupidity that ensures defeat...that's the hallmark of the NeverTrumpists.

And again, pragmatism has nothing to do with it, Either you adhere to what works, or you do not. Your argument being 'We can't do what works because it won't work'... Which is hilariously circular... And advocates doing what doesn't work instead...  :laugh:You misstate the argument. The argument is that we follow the Reagan doctrine of attaining the most conservative legislation possible within a democratic process...if we can get an 80% conservative bill we take it...while fools who demand purity will damn such a bill because its 20% moderate or progressive. You forget, that we do not get to dictate policy...nor does the President...here in the real world we must operate within the realm of what is actually possible. Purity tests equal political surrender and defeat...which is why so few of us agree with your approach to politics, leadership and the Presidency.

I won't go up against the education system - The education system Republicans let grow and even fed when they should have risen in opposition (with the Conservatives). Too big to kill now... But your thinking is collective and only sees collective answers... The answer I have is like to my kind - Pull YOUR kids out of the education system and teach them yourself... Liberty has responsibility. Then at least your own are not part of the problem. I cannot change them all, but I can change my own.

The one thing that you should stand up against, that we should all stand up against...you determine its best to simply accept surrender. Let me help you out...home schooling will never be enough to counter the Progressive monopoly on education. That must be faced and fought....and yes its a fight that will last generations...and can never be "ceded" to the Left. Changing your "own" is just another type of surrender, because if we can't persuade our fellow citizens of the rightness of our cause...our cause is lost. So what you are advocating is...again...defeat and surrender.

So no, Standing on what's right and true is not just the right thing to do... It is the only thing to do.Sounds very pure and simple. In fact, all of us are standing for what we perceive as right and true...no less than yourself. We are as "true" of conservatives as are you, and unless all of us within that broader understanding of conservatism...not your narrow self approving version...can work in concert to fight progressivism...well...we will lose this country. Those too pure to work in this way will be at fault...that's not an accusation as much as it is a simple statement of what is.

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Wow. That’s the highest I’ve ever seen bullshit stacked. And pure too...not an ounce of historical context, intellectual honesty, philosophical depth nor an iota of common sense to muck up the shite pile.
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Sorry I triggered you.  But please point out my 'insult' in the post to which your refer.   

If I insult you, it won't be translucent to anyone.

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Not triggered... Your petty jibes have become mundane. Pedestrian. This is what I referred to:

LOL!   You have ALL the answers to our problems as a country.

Too bad that we live in Realville....not on a game board. 

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Wow. That’s the highest I’ve ever seen bullshit stacked. And pure too...not an ounce of historical context, intellectual honesty, philosophical depth nor an iota of common sense to muck up the shite pile.

Then you should be able to tear it down. Bring it.

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Then you should be able to tear it down. Bring it.

Why would I want to tear it down? It’s a monument to the absurdity of your position, I’d like it to stand in all its fecal glory for as long as possible.

Though I will add this....those who think they have the market on Truth cornered go by certain names. You know...Robespierre, Torquemada, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Khomeini, Jim Jones...well...the list is long but I think you can see where I’m heading with it.
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   Wow, I stumbled into another Trumper Lecture on Fecal Matter, will wonders ever cease.
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Why would I want to tear it down? It’s a monument to the absurdity of your position, I’d like it to stand in all its fecal glory for as long as possible.


Too bad. I'd have liked to see you try to twist the thought of standing for what's right and true.
Oh, but then you did:

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Though I will add this....those who think they have the market on Truth cornered go by certain names. You know...Robespierre, Torquemada, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Khomeini, Jim Jones...well...the list is long but I think you can see where I’m heading with it.

Yeah. Funny how Conservatives in standing on the truth, have never been thus inclined. I wonder if you understand the difference.

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Here's an insult for you...   @roamer_1

If you think THAT which triggered you was an insult...you're one whiny little b*tch.    :tongue2:
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   Wow, I stumbled into another Trumper Lecture on Fecal Matter, will wonders ever cease.

Don't you have any pornographic/risque memes that need posting in another category?    :smokin:
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Here's an insult for you...   @roamer_1

If you think THAT which triggered you was an insult...you're one whiny little b*tch.    :tongue2:

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   I didn't vote for Perot because I knew that a Successful Business Man is not an automatic 'Hall Pass' for POTUS.  Trump needs new script writers/Advisors on this reality show, the Kushner husband/wife team is failing him badly, or maybe it's his 'fly by the pants' producing/directing, but something ain't working and America is feeling it.  Other than his hardcore base (though fat and happy, aren't enough to get him reelected), we are all up the proverbial $hit creek without a paddle, if he fks this up.
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"He can do nothing from a political standpoint until either requested, or the situation is such that it is clear intervention is  matter of national import."

OK, Joe, I'm gonna call you out on the floor about it.
Just what kind of "national import" would have to occur in order to warrant "intervention"....?
When enough of these pukes decide 'if Seattle can do  this, we can too', and try to get a movement going. When the residents of those zones are crying out for relief from the occupiers, loudly enough to get past the Communist MSM screen. But the issue has to be front and center at the breakfast table, and the solution has to be something the overwhelming majority of people see as necessary.  Short of these people seizing military arms, entering federal buildings, and literally making a federal case out of it, he really can't do anything or it will be spun against him till the wheels come off.

A man I respect who was a machine gunner in Korea, said once you got good with your gun you could pop off single rounds or maybe a couple close enough together they sounded like two riflemen firing about the same time. Emboldened by this sound, the North Koreans, and later the Chinese Communist Troops would break cover and charge.  Once they were well out of their holes, it was time to 'go to work' and put them down.

Let them think the POTUS is impotent to do anything.

Get the vids, the drone images, identify as many as possible, especially ringleaders.. Identify networks. Track all financial transactions and communications. locate support personnel, trainers, financiers. Isn't that how we deal with ANY terrorist groups? Get intel, verify intel, act on it. It's still in the first two stages.
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Then you should be able to tear it down. Bring it.

@roamer_1

It IS BS,pure and simple. A freaking fantasy for a fantasy world of "what if" and "make believe" that doesn't exist.

It CAN'T be "torn down" because it only exists in your mind,and because of that it is a waste of time to try to argue with you over any of it.
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@roamer_1

It IS BS,pure and simple. A freaking fantasy for a fantasy world of "what if" and "make believe" that doesn't exist.

It CAN'T be "torn down" because it only exists in your mind,and because of that it is a waste of time to try to argue with you over any of it.

Amen, @sneakypete

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