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https://twitter.com/TheBruceMasters/status/1267368091291471873

How come I haven't seen this yet?

Anyone?

It doesn't necessarily excuse the cop's actions, but it puts things in a new light, IMO.

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https://twitter.com/TheBruceMasters/status/1267368091291471873

How come I haven't seen this yet?

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It doesn't necessarily excuse the cop's actions, but it puts things in a new light, IMO.

They just mentioned this on Fox...I just now started to look for it..glad you found it.
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This and the autopsy do not excuse this cop's tactics, but they do reduce the impact of the media's current narrative.

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This and the autopsy do not excuse this cop's tactics, but they do reduce the impact of the media's current narrative.
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The Propaganda Ministry For the Left-wing Fascist Agenda still won't admit that Rodney King was a career criminal who was fighting the police after he was finally stopped at the end of a car chase that reached speeds of up to 100 mph in a residential neighborhood.

it doesn't fit their narrative. An' the narrative is that white conservatives are raysis. Cops are raysis. Orange Man Bad.

Anything else must (even the truth) must be ignored at all cost.

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But the damage—and the viral spread—is done.

The hosts on Fox & the rest have to stop glorifying the protests. They are NOT about having 'voices heard', they aren't healthy therapy. They're ginning up anger based upon an inaccurate depiction of events.

You legitimize the protests, you excuse the riots. Period.


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This changes a lot of the narrative about why Mr. Floyd was "on the ground" and being restrained in the first place...

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This changes a lot of the narrative about why Mr. Floyd was "on the ground" and being restrained in the first place...

This is the first I've seen of it... wonder why?

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https://twitter.com/TheBruceMasters/status/1267368091291471873

How come I haven't seen this yet?

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It doesn't necessarily excuse the cop's actions, but it puts things in a new light, IMO.
Absolutely it does.

Anyone who resists arrest is automatically engaged in criminal behavior.

The cops restrained a criminal.

And he was huge.  6'6" tall can take down most policemen and put the hurt on them.

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Absolutely it does.

Anyone who resists arrest is automatically engaged in criminal behavior.

The cops restrained a criminal.

And he was huge.  6'6" tall can take down most policemen and put the hurt on them.

He was still handcuffed.  Video footage showed that he was handcuffed; hands behind his back BEFORE he was on the ground with a knee to his neck. So...what threat did he pose?  Not like he can strike out at anyone. Again, his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee to his neck.  So ... how much danger was he at that point?  He said he couldn't breathe ...whether or not the autopsy comes back with signs of asphyxiation or not .... he died while handcuffed; hands behind his back with a cop's knee to his neck.   He didn't die from gunshots, didn't die on route to the holding cell, didn't die after he was processed ... he died while his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee on his neck stating several times he couldn't breathe.  Sorry IMHO, he was cuffed. He was contained.  He was killed.

He was under arrest for supposedly passing a phony $20.00 ... we will never know the outcome because he will never have his day in court.  $20.00 for a life.
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No, it does NOT!!  He was still handcuffed.  Video footage showed that he was handcuffed; hands behind his back BEFORE he was on the ground with a knee to his neck. So...what threat did he pose?  Not like he can strike out at anyone. Again, his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee to his neck.  So ... how much danger was he at that point?  He said he couldn't breathe ...whether or not the autopsy comes back with signs of asphyxiation or not .... he died while handcuffed; hands behind his back with a cop's knee to his neck.   He didn't die from gunshots, didn't die on route to the holding cell, didn't die after he was processed ... he died while his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee on his neck stating several times he couldn't breathe.  Sorry IMHO, he was cuffed. He was contained.  He was killed.

He was under arrest for supposedly passing a phony $20.00 ... we will never know the outcome because he will never have his day in court.  $20.00 for a life.
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He was still handcuffed.  Video footage showed that he was handcuffed; hands behind his back BEFORE he was on the ground with a knee to his neck. So...what threat did he pose?  Not like he can strike out at anyone. Again, his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee to his neck.  So ... how much danger was he at that point?  He said he couldn't breathe ...whether or not the autopsy comes back with signs of asphyxiation or not .... he died while handcuffed; hands behind his back with a cop's knee to his neck.   He didn't die from gunshots, didn't die on route to the holding cell, didn't die after he was processed ... he died while his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee on his neck stating several times he couldn't breathe.  Sorry IMHO, he was cuffed. He was contained.  He was killed.

He was under arrest for supposedly passing a phony $20.00 ... we will never know the outcome because he will never have his day in court.  $20.00 for a life.

Yes, he was handcuffed... but he was also probably hopped up on drugs (past history of selling drugs and being a convicted felon)... which would make securing him in the back of that police cruiser very difficult or impossible if he was fighting it... which he apparently was.   When the cops couldn't get him "secured" (they couldn't transport him unless the seat belt was locked in place)... they pulled him out and held him down... and the rest is history.   Can only imagine how pissed off those cops had to be at that point.

Floyd was just another thug with a long rap sheet that resisted arrest.   

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Floyd had been sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for aggravated assault stemming from a robbery where Floyd entered a woman’s home, pointed a gun at her stomach and searched the home for drugs and money, according to court records.



Floyd had at least five stints in jail. In one of the charging documents, officials noted Floyd had two convictions in the 1990s for theft and delivery of a controlled substance, but it is not clear if Floyd served any time for either of those offenses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8367221/Prosecutors-warn-evidence-does-not-support-criminal-charge-George-Floyds-killing.html

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He was still handcuffed.  Video footage showed that he was handcuffed; hands behind his back BEFORE he was on the ground with a knee to his neck. So...what threat did he pose?  Not like he can strike out at anyone. Again, his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee to his neck.  So ... how much danger was he at that point?  He said he couldn't breathe ...whether or not the autopsy comes back with signs of asphyxiation or not .... he died while handcuffed; hands behind his back with a cop's knee to his neck.   He didn't die from gunshots, didn't die on route to the holding cell, didn't die after he was processed ... he died while his hands were handcuffed behind his back with a knee on his neck stating several times he couldn't breathe.  Sorry IMHO, he was cuffed. He was contained.  He was killed.

He was under arrest for supposedly passing a phony $20.00 ... we will never know the outcome because he will never have his day in court.  $20.00 for a life.


In the 8+ minutes that transpired with his face pressed against the ground while four other cops watched, one would think that one of the four could pull a squad car around and place the suspect in the back seat.  That has been SOP any time I have been arrested.
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Yes, he was handcuffed... but he was also probably hopped up on drugs (past history of selling drugs and being a convicted felon)... which would make securing him in the back of that police cruiser very difficult or impossible if he was fighting it... which he apparently was.   When the cops couldn't get him "secured" (they couldn't transport him unless the seat belt was locked in place)... they pulled him out and held him down... and the rest is history.   Can only imagine how pissed off those cops had to be at that point.

Floyd was just another thug with a long rap sheet that resisted arrest.

So how and why is a guy with 6 felonies in 10 years walking around among us anyway?
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So how and why is a guy with 6 felonies in 10 years walking around among us anyway?

The same way that a cop with 18 formal complaints is still on the street.  Democrats own this.
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In the 8+ minutes that transpired with his face pressed against the ground while four other cops watched, one would think that one of the four could pull a squad car around and place the suspect in the back seat.  That has been SOP any time I have been arrested.

You've got the timeline wrong.   He already was placed in the back seat but they couldn't secure him (seat belt) because he was fighting and resisting.   That's when they pulled him back out  of the vehicle and held him down on the pavement.
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So how and why is a guy with 6 felonies in 10 years walking around among us anyway?

It was Houston.  Another big city run by leftist Democrat politicians, judges and police.
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And he was huge.  6'6" tall can take down most policemen and put the hurt on them.

Weren't there several cops, all on him at once.
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You've got the timeline wrong.   He already was placed in the back seat but they couldn't secure him (seat belt) because he was fighting and resisting.   That's when they pulled him back out  of the vehicle and held him down on the pavement.

Uh, no.  Never had a cop try to put a seat belt on me.  In fact, I have never even seen a seat belt in the back of a cop car.  The point is to get the perpetrator in the back where he is locked up and no longer a threat to anyone else.  If he was already in the back of a car and they took him out, then they are definitely liable for anything that happens to him after pulling him back out.  They removed him from a secure environment and returned him to an unsecure one.
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Yes, he was handcuffed... but he was also probably hopped up on drugs (past history of selling drugs and being a convicted felon)... which would make securing him in the back of that police cruiser very difficult or impossible if he was fighting it... which he apparently was.   When the cops couldn't get him "secured" (they couldn't transport him unless the seat belt was locked in place)... they pulled him out and held him down... and the rest is history.   Can only imagine how pissed off those cops had to be at that point.

Floyd was just another thug with a long rap sheet that resisted arrest.

Ok, he was a thug with a rap sheet. His hands were secured behind his back. Not in front where he could possibly hit or strike.  He may have resisted arrest. I get that. Yes the cop was probably pretty pissed off at that point, yes, pissed off enough to use excessive force and not let up when he pleaded that he couldn't breathe. 3 others cops stood by and did nothing.  So that's 4 cops on one man who had his hands handcuffed behind his back.  The fact still remains, he died while handcuffed, on the ground with a knee to his neck.  IMHO it doesn't matter why the knee was to the neck, but it does matter that he did while there was a knee to his neck.  There's no way around that.

An independent autopsy is being done today by the family.  I find it interesting that the current autopsy report indicates that he didn't die from asphyxiation, ok, then, what did he die from?? Did he have a heart attack?  Did he die from blunt trauma to the neck?? 
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On Friday I was in complete sympathy for those protesting for justice for Mr.
Floyd and issue of police behavior toward African Americans.

Since then I have lost that sympathy as thugs have destroyed property and businesses in the very communities the protesters say they speak for.

Today I stand with the law-abiding members of those communities who need and demand law and order.

The past is prologue.  52 years ago I saw the riots in New Haven, Connecticut and they were, in retrospect,  a key reason why I became a conservative.  52 years later,  a new need and demand by the unprotected for an end to such pointless destruction will propel Trump, like it did to Nixon before him, to victory in November.
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An independent autopsy is being done today by the family.  I find it interesting that the current autopsy report indicates that he didn't die from asphyxiation, ok, then, what did he die from?? Did he have a heart attack?  Did he die from blunt trauma to the neck??

Will be interesting to hear.  Also, you got to add the concern of Drug OD, or whether he had cervical spinal issues that may have precipitated a severed or cut spinal cord. 
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Uh, no.  Never had a cop try to put a seat belt on me.  In fact, I have never even seen a seat belt in the back of a cop car.  The point is to get the perpetrator in the back where he is locked up and no longer a threat to anyone else.  If he was already in the back of a car and they took him out, then they are definitely liable for anything that happens to him after pulling him back out.  They removed him from a secure environment and returned him to an unsecure one.

Do you remember the Freddie Gray case?   Another career criminal, and a suicidal one.  He had been "secured" in a police van, yet managed to kill himself... as testified by other perps in the other portion of the van.... who claimed that while stopped, they could hear him throwing himself against the walls of the van.   And yet... the truth was never really exposed by leftist media.  Cops were blamed.   It was ruled a "homicide".  See the pattern?

I'm just saying... don't fall for the leftie media BS and disinformation.   

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Freddie Gray, the 25-year-old Baltimore man who died after being injured while in police custody, had a lengthy criminal record before his fatal run-in with police on April 12, 2015. He had previously been arrested at least 18 times and had been in and out of prison since 2008, court records show.

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On Friday I was in complete sympathy for those protesting for justice for Mr.
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Today I stand with the law-abiding members of those communities who need and demand law and order.

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Ok, he was a thug with a rap sheet. His hands were secured behind his back. Not in front where he could possibly hit or strike.  He may have resisted arrest. I get that. Yes the cop was probably pretty pissed off at that point, yes, pissed off enough to use excessive force and not let up when he pleaded that he couldn't breathe. 3 others cops stood by and did nothing.  So that's 4 cops on one man who had his hands handcuffed behind his back.  The fact still remains, he died while handcuffed, on the ground with a knee to his neck.  IMHO it doesn't matter why the knee was to the neck, but it does matter that he did while there was a knee to his neck.  There's no way around that.

An independent autopsy is being done today by the family.  I find it interesting that the current autopsy report indicates that he didn't die from asphyxiation, ok, then, what did he die from?? Did he have a heart attack?  Did he die from blunt trauma to the neck??

I read one article which said that he died later at the hospital.   And the toxicology report will probably never be released or if it is, it may not be ""truthful"".   I'm betting that he had major drugs in his system, but the narrative is to show the guy was a poor, innocent black just trying to get his life together.   And the autopsy by the family will probably show nothing different.   They'll be looking to cash in, like the others before them.   Just sayin....
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