Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[mountaineer]

That assumes you even have a seal, often not the case, and I'd like to have a dollar for every time I have seen someone with their full nose hanging over the mask or it pulled down below their chin.

The mask pulled below the nose might be mine. I'm not wearing it for any medically necessary purpose, anyway - as it serves none - but just to be permitted into Kroger or Walmart. It's near impossible to breathe in those things, so I occasionally pull it down to get some fresh air.

[mountaineer]

Just saw this amusing tweet:

Teacher Susan   @SusanNelsPres
My day today started by a parent coming into my Google Meet uninvited to tell me their family believe in a different science, was told I indoctrinate children, received a nasty-gram stating I was pushing politics because I am teaching the science of masks. How was your day?
11:37 PM · Dec 15, 2020·

She describes herself as: Theatre M.A./Biology B.A.S., Teacher, College Instructor, Moderate Christian. Love thy neighbor; all of them. American. Relieved resister.

I don't know what a "moderate Christian" might be, but you probably can guess how much she expresses dislike of President Trump in her other tweets. 

[rustynail]

Journalist who traveled with  Joe Biden to Georgia has COVID-19

Pray for Our Joe

https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/journalist-who-traveled-with-joe-biden-has-covid-19/

[Hoodat]

12-14-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.391 ↑	1.360 -
United States	31.842 ↑	1.716 -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TN, NY, PA, & OH.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +250.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,693,108.

[Hoodat]

12-15-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.449 ↑	1.358 ↓
United States	32.046 ↑	1.716 -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, AZ, TN, & NY.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +216.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,745,102.

US Recoveries-to-Deaths ratio climbs above 32.

[Hoodat]

12-16-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.481 ↑	1.356 ↓
United States	32.174 ↑	1.713 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, NY, PA, & FL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +183.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,790,404.

[Hoodat]

12-17-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.533 ↑	1.355 ↓
United States	32.324 ↑	1.710 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, TN, & PA.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +160.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,828,502.

[Smokin Joe]

The surplus in the 7 day moving average is declining. Maybe people have decided not to die over the holidays...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Chad Prather
@WatchChad

How will we know the vaccine is working? Will the survival rate go from 99.7% to 99.8?


5:20 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/WatchChad/status/1340059510766002177

[Right_in_Virginia]

dr. efanzor (Parler: drefanzor)
@drefanzor

Mike Pence has an allergic reaction.

Video:

https://twitter.com/drefanzor/status/1340029723880030210

3:22 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App

[bigheadfred]

dr. efanzor (Parler: drefanzor)
@drefanzor

Mike Pence has an allergic reaction.

Video:

https://twitter.com/drefanzor/status/1340029723880030210

3:22 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App

LOL

[sneakypete]

dr. efanzor (Parler: drefanzor)
@drefanzor

Mike Pence has an allergic reaction.

Video:

https://twitter.com/drefanzor/status/1340029723880030210

3:22 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App

@Right_in_Virginia

I LOVE IT!

Where can I get the same shot he got?

[Hoodat]

12-18-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.574 ↑	1.355 -
United States	32.362 ↑	1.713 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +198.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,927,643.

[Hoodat]

12-19-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.585 ↑	1.356 ↑
United States	32.397 ↑	1.721 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, NY, & TN.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +125.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 4,029,460.


US Recoveries continue to go uncounted.  14-day Recovery Deficit surpasses 4 million.  That's 4 million Americans who have recovered from this disease but are still being listed as actively sick.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I LOVE IT!

Where can I get the same shot he got?

Rumor has it there's one shot left and they're saving it for KAmala @sneakypete

[Smokin Joe]

12-19-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	31.585 ↑	1.356 ↑
United States	32.397 ↑	1.721 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, NY, & TN.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +125.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 4,029,460.


US Recoveries continue to go uncounted.  14-day Recovery Deficit surpasses 4 million.  That's 4 million Americans who have recovered from this disease but are still being listed as actively sick.

Gotta keep the panic going or no one will get the shot. Active cases here have been in decline for well over a week, but people are watching national news and listening to the radio and being told that cases are skyrocketing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

We don’t want to have lockdowns. The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself!

BBC News (UK)
@BBCNews

Areas currently in tier 3 in south-east England, including London, will enter tier 4 from tomorrow morning

PM Boris Johnson says tier 4 "will be broadly equivalent" to November's lockdown

Latest updates: http://bbc.in/38kFtzl

(Boris Johnson) Video: 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340377186847625218

2:23 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340377186847625218

[Right_in_Virginia]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The entire WORLD is being badly hurt by the China Virus, but if you listen to the Fake News Lamestream Media, and Big Tech, you would think that we are the only one. No, but we are the Country that developed vaccines, and years ahead of schedule!

ITV News
@itvnews

'We cannot continue with Christmas as planned.'

The festive bubble policy across Tier 1, 2 and 3 areas of England will be dramatically scaled back to just Christmas Day.
https://itv.com/news/2020-12-19/covid-19-boris-johnson-expected-to-announce-tier-4-for-london-and-south-east-as-coronavirus-cases-soar

(More Boris) Video:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340376176695631872

2:19 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

[libertybele]

Well, I look at it this way.  We are all going to eventually die of something.  I have health issues anyways and I'm not increasing my chances of dying from some vaccine that has been expedited and is reportedly targeting certain people, especially since there have been adverse reactions from it here and in the U.K. I don't trust our government, the WHO, Fauci, nor the CDC.  I believe 2/3 of those tested during the studies had some sort of adverse reaction -- 2/3 is a lot of people.  Whether the reaction was minimal or not, 2/3 is still a lot of people, and then you have to get a second dose.  No vaccine for me.

I just read a report that flu cases are down and COVID cases are up.  How stupid do they really think people are??

[bigheadfred]

Well, I look at it this way.  We are all going to eventually die of something.  I have health issues anyways and I'm not increasing my chances of dying from some vaccine that has been expedited and is reportedly targeting certain people, especially since there have been adverse reactions from it here and in the U.K. I don't trust our government, the WHO, Fauci, nor the CDC.  I believe 2/3 of those tested during the studies had some sort of adverse reaction -- 2/3 is a lot of people.  Whether the reaction was minimal or not, 2/3 is still a lot of people, and then you have to get a second dose.  No vaccine for me.

I just read a report that flu cases are down and COVID cases are up.  How stupid do they really think people are??

Not sheeple anymore.

Noun. 1. schlep - (Yiddish) an awkward and stupid person.

shee·ple

plural noun: sheeple

People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.

My new word.

Schleeple

[libertybele]

Not sheeple anymore.

Noun. 1. schlep - (Yiddish) an awkward and stupid person.

shee·ple

plural noun: sheeple

People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.

My new word.

Schleeple

I like. 

[jmyrlefuller]

Gotta keep the panic going or no one will get the shot. Active cases here have been in decline for well over a week, but people are watching national news and listening to the radio and being told that cases are skyrocketing.

You're in the Dakotas, right?

One of the first places to see a marked decline in cases in this "second wave." And yet you won't hear a peep from Lockdown Annies in the media.

[txradioguy]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

[bigheadfred]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

LOL/s

[bigheadfred]

They should make a movie starring Jane Fonda. The China Syndrome or something...catchy.

[Cyber Liberty]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

[libertybele]

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

A definite possibility.

[Cyber Liberty]

A definite possibility.

Why do you think masks are so important?

[bigheadfred]

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

Nah. No caliphate.


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[jmyrlefuller]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

[Cyber Liberty]

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

It doesn't have to be true to gin up another panic that's worse than the disease. They now have a template.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ezra Levant
@ezralevant

“Get on the ground before I f@cking taser you!” Calgary’s out-of-control police threaten a young man for... skating outside at a park? @TheRealKeean please find these boys and we will sue the police for them on Monday.

Video:

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1340302016963354624

9:24 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

[Smokin Joe]

You're in the Dakotas, right?

One of the first places to see a marked decline in cases in this "second wave." And yet you won't hear a peep from Lockdown Annies in the media.

Correct. But we get national newsfeeds that talk of here like it was the Bubonic Plague or the Spanish Flu.

Yes, we have lost some people, but current positive cases statewide are less than 30% of peak levels, with roughly 2,900 active cases statewide. (of 760,000 population) You would never know there was such a profound number of recoveries.

[Smokin Joe]

Why do you think masks are so important?

A few extra lumps in the mask should help mess with the facial recognition software come the revolution.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Lauren Boebert
@laurenboebert

How did we go from starting a revolution over a tax on tea to collectively shrugging our shoulders when the government locks us in our homes, keeps us from seeing our families and arbitrarily closes our small businesses?


7:20 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1340452066729357313

[Right_in_Virginia]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays

Biden will be using the "Pointy-haired Boss" strategy against COVID-19. That means promoting masks and lockdowns and later claiming his leadership made a big difference while the vaccinations and warmer weather do the heavy lifting.


8:48 AM · Dec 20, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1340655377071783937

[jmyrlefuller]

UK official: We'll never eradicate the virus, mask mandates FOREVER!!!! 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55159618

[thackney]

UK official: We'll never eradicate the virus, mask mandates FOREVER!!!! 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55159618

What would be the point of wearing a mask after one has been vaccinated.

[libertybele]

What would be the point of wearing a mask after one has been vaccinated.

Once Islamic rule is in place, we'll be used to wearing face coverings.

[libertybele]

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

The flu virus has never been stopped.  It's been around for a long time.  No lockdowns.  No quarantines.  No one panicking. 

Some strains are expected to be more prevalent in different years and they vaccinate accordingly.  People still die, even those who get the vaccine.

It's time to get over the paranoia.

[roamer_1]

The flu virus has never been stopped.  It's been around for a long time.  No lockdowns.  No quarantines.  No one panicking. 

Some strains are expected to be more prevalent in different years and they vaccinate accordingly.  People still die, even those who get the vaccine.

It's time to get over the paranoia.

YUP!

[jmyrlefuller]

Fauci concedes feared "surge upon surge" never materialized after Thanksgiving
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/thanksgiving-covid-surge-christmas-fauci

[Smokin Joe]

Fauci concedes feared pimped "surge upon surge" never materialized after Thanksgiving
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/thanksgiving-covid-surge-christmas-fauci

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

[jmyrlefuller]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

There was a spike here as well, mainly at the county jail and as part of mass testing at the local college before the holiday. Predictably, the liberals around here blame people not wearing masks. (Yet everywhere I go, the compliance is well over 90%.) BUT that began weeks before Thanksgiving. It stayed pretty much level the past few weeks and is now going down again (thankfully).

[Hoodat]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

First rule of accounting - you get what you count.  In business, if you count costs, you get costs.  If you count revenue, you get revenue.  If you count profits, you get profits.

Same goes with Covid.  If you count cases, you get cases.  If you count deaths, you get deaths.  If you count recoveries, you get recoveries.  So far, the emphasis has been on counting cases and deaths.

[jmyrlefuller]

No COVID baby boom: 300,000 fewer children will be born in 2021, and lockdowns preventing men and women from socializing are to blame
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/16/covid-19-baby-bust-coronavirus-pandemic-lead-birth-decline/6507974002/

Do the math. You haven't saved lives, you've just saved OLDER lives at the expense of slashing the birth rate to dangerously low levels. In the end, the same amount of people either die or don't come into existence that otherwise would.

[Fishrrman]

"No COVID baby boom: 300,000 fewer children will be born in 2021, and lockdowns preventing men and women from socializing are to blame..."

Sounds like most of these would have ended up being illegitimate births.
Probably better off without them.

[Hoodat]

Correct. But we get national newsfeeds that talk of here like it was the Bubonic Plague or the Spanish Flu.

Yes, we have lost some people, but current positive cases statewide are less than 30% of peak levels, with roughly 2,900 active cases statewide. (of 760,000 population) You would never know there was such a profound number of recoveries.

@Smokin Joe

Recovery-to-Death ratio:
---------------------------
US - 32.69
ND - 69.87


Case-to-Recovery ratio:
---------------------------
US - 1.720
ND - 1.047

North Dakota is blowing away the national average on both counts.  Their reported infection percentage is 11.8.  Add in estimated asymptomatic cases, and North Dakota is approaching herd immunity.  There not another state other than South Dakota that has even come close.

[GtHawk]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

I bet you have a fifty fifty chance of the tests being fifty percent right fifty percent of the time.

[Hoodat]

I bet you have a fifty fifty chance of the tests being fifty percent right fifty percent of the time.

Here a Bayes' Theorem probability exercise. 

Question:  Let's say there is a disease that 1% of the population has.  There is a test for this disease that is 99% accurate either way.  If a person tests positive for the disease, what is the probability that they actually have the disease?

Answer: 50%