Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[Cyber Liberty]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

[libertybele]

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

A definite possibility.

[Cyber Liberty]

A definite possibility.

Why do you think masks are so important?

[bigheadfred]

Yup!  Back to square one.  Rinse and repeat forever. Trump's Fault. Caliphate here we come!

Nah. No caliphate.


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[jmyrlefuller]

Speaking of keeping the panic going... just in time for 2021 and timed with the release of two vaccines...England is reporting a “new strain” of the China Virus.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=curated

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

[Cyber Liberty]

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

It doesn't have to be true to gin up another panic that's worse than the disease. They now have a template.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ezra Levant
@ezralevant

“Get on the ground before I f@cking taser you!” Calgary’s out-of-control police threaten a young man for... skating outside at a park? @TheRealKeean please find these boys and we will sue the police for them on Monday.

Video:

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1340302016963354624

9:24 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

[Smokin Joe]

You're in the Dakotas, right?

One of the first places to see a marked decline in cases in this "second wave." And yet you won't hear a peep from Lockdown Annies in the media.

Correct. But we get national newsfeeds that talk of here like it was the Bubonic Plague or the Spanish Flu.

Yes, we have lost some people, but current positive cases statewide are less than 30% of peak levels, with roughly 2,900 active cases statewide. (of 760,000 population) You would never know there was such a profound number of recoveries.

[Smokin Joe]

Why do you think masks are so important?

A few extra lumps in the mask should help mess with the facial recognition software come the revolution.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Lauren Boebert
@laurenboebert

How did we go from starting a revolution over a tax on tea to collectively shrugging our shoulders when the government locks us in our homes, keeps us from seeing our families and arbitrarily closes our small businesses?


7:20 PM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1340452066729357313

[Right_in_Virginia]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays

Biden will be using the "Pointy-haired Boss" strategy against COVID-19. That means promoting masks and lockdowns and later claiming his leadership made a big difference while the vaccinations and warmer weather do the heavy lifting.


8:48 AM · Dec 20, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1340655377071783937

[jmyrlefuller]

UK official: We'll never eradicate the virus, mask mandates FOREVER!!!! 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55159618

[thackney]

UK official: We'll never eradicate the virus, mask mandates FOREVER!!!! 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55159618

What would be the point of wearing a mask after one has been vaccinated.

[libertybele]

What would be the point of wearing a mask after one has been vaccinated.

Once Islamic rule is in place, we'll be used to wearing face coverings.

[libertybele]

Allegedly more contagious too. Which, considering how ineffective the mandates were this time around, means this one's likely unstoppable. IF true.

The flu virus has never been stopped.  It's been around for a long time.  No lockdowns.  No quarantines.  No one panicking. 

Some strains are expected to be more prevalent in different years and they vaccinate accordingly.  People still die, even those who get the vaccine.

It's time to get over the paranoia.

[roamer_1]

The flu virus has never been stopped.  It's been around for a long time.  No lockdowns.  No quarantines.  No one panicking. 

Some strains are expected to be more prevalent in different years and they vaccinate accordingly.  People still die, even those who get the vaccine.

It's time to get over the paranoia.

YUP!

[jmyrlefuller]

Fauci concedes feared "surge upon surge" never materialized after Thanksgiving
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/thanksgiving-covid-surge-christmas-fauci

[Smokin Joe]

Fauci concedes feared pimped "surge upon surge" never materialized after Thanksgiving
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/thanksgiving-covid-surge-christmas-fauci

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

[jmyrlefuller]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

There was a spike here as well, mainly at the county jail and as part of mass testing at the local college before the holiday. Predictably, the liberals around here blame people not wearing masks. (Yet everywhere I go, the compliance is well over 90%.) BUT that began weeks before Thanksgiving. It stayed pretty much level the past few weeks and is now going down again (thankfully).

[Hoodat]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

First rule of accounting - you get what you count.  In business, if you count costs, you get costs.  If you count revenue, you get revenue.  If you count profits, you get profits.

Same goes with Covid.  If you count cases, you get cases.  If you count deaths, you get deaths.  If you count recoveries, you get recoveries.  So far, the emphasis has been on counting cases and deaths.

[jmyrlefuller]

No COVID baby boom: 300,000 fewer children will be born in 2021, and lockdowns preventing men and women from socializing are to blame
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/16/covid-19-baby-bust-coronavirus-pandemic-lead-birth-decline/6507974002/

Do the math. You haven't saved lives, you've just saved OLDER lives at the expense of slashing the birth rate to dangerously low levels. In the end, the same amount of people either die or don't come into existence that otherwise would.

[Fishrrman]

"No COVID baby boom: 300,000 fewer children will be born in 2021, and lockdowns preventing men and women from socializing are to blame..."

Sounds like most of these would have ended up being illegitimate births.
Probably better off without them.

[Hoodat]

Correct. But we get national newsfeeds that talk of here like it was the Bubonic Plague or the Spanish Flu.

Yes, we have lost some people, but current positive cases statewide are less than 30% of peak levels, with roughly 2,900 active cases statewide. (of 760,000 population) You would never know there was such a profound number of recoveries.

@Smokin Joe

Recovery-to-Death ratio:
---------------------------
US - 32.69
ND - 69.87


Case-to-Recovery ratio:
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US - 1.720
ND - 1.047

North Dakota is blowing away the national average on both counts.  Their reported infection percentage is 11.8.  Add in estimated asymptomatic cases, and North Dakota is approaching herd immunity.  There not another state other than South Dakota that has even come close.

[GtHawk]

The only surge was in testing around here, which predictably, led to a surge in cases. Makes you wonder how accurate the tests are. Seems new cases and testing tracked pretty well.

I bet you have a fifty fifty chance of the tests being fifty percent right fifty percent of the time.

[Hoodat]

I bet you have a fifty fifty chance of the tests being fifty percent right fifty percent of the time.

Here a Bayes' Theorem probability exercise. 

Question:  Let's say there is a disease that 1% of the population has.  There is a test for this disease that is 99% accurate either way.  If a person tests positive for the disease, what is the probability that they actually have the disease?

Answer: 50%