Live Thread: Impeachment Acquital

[roamer_1]

Well one thing.  Romney has earned the right to have  the worst of assignments the GOP has to offer.  Hope Turtle makes him Chairmman of the Bovine Excrement Dispostion Committee.

Be careful what you wish for... Bullsh*t is what they do... 

[libertybele]

Biden's Ukraine Scandal Explained I Glenn Beck


www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHihyFsgJGc

[catfish1957]

Biden's Ukraine Scandal Explained I Glenn Beck

Never seen that level of detail.  In any case, I have always been a proponent of "Where there's smoke there's fire". Once the lid blew off, everyone knew this stank to high heaven.  Funny though, no one in the MSM is blaming Slow Joe's weak IA showing on this.

But the truth is the muck is sticking to Biden.  He's doomed.

[sneakypete]

Never seen that level of detail.  In any case, I have always been a proponent of "Where there's smoke there's fire". Once the lid blew off, everyone knew this stank to high heaven.  Funny though, no one in the MSM is blaming Slow Joe's weak IA showing on this.

But the truth is the muck is sticking to Biden.  He's doomed.

@catfish1957

I don't think it's Slow Joe they are worried about. None of them like him to start with,and they would probably push the handle to flush him downstream and get him out of the way if that is all there was to it.

It's not,though. There are also the children of Pelosi,Kerry,and at least one other prominent Dim that also had board seats and drawing big paychecks for doing nothing. In other words,laundering bribe money to their parents.

THAT is why the Dim wanted this thing shut down. Yeah,they control the media in the US,but they don't control it in other countries,and sooner or later news reports will leak over the borders,questions will be asked,and explanations will have to be given.

This is especially true if Trump is re-elected and those adult "children" are still laundering the bribe money.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957



This is especially true if Trump is re-elected and those adult "children" are still laundering the bribe money.

I am hoping if we can blow the lid off one, we can let this thing snowball to include the Clintons, Obamas, et. al.

They have made corruption incorporated a cottage industry

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

The Burisma case in Ukraine had nothing to do with Joe Biden or his son, Hunter.

@Victoria33
@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

Pam Bondi argues Biden corruption concerns are legitimate


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White House lawyer: ‘No link’ between Ukraine aid, investigations


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[catfish1957]

@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

The Burisma case in Ukraine had nothing to do with Joe Biden or his son, Hunter.  The case was about Burisma Group President Mykola Zlochevskyi.   Consider the rest in "quotes":

So Hunter Biden, who has no education or experience in the petrochemical industry lands a $50K a month position in this organizaiton, and you do not think Biden corruption is involved, or Slow Joe intervened?

Hmmmmmm........

[Maj. Bill Martin]

CSPAN
@cspan
Q: "How long is Senator Romney going to be in the dog house?"

@senatemajldr
: "We don't have any dog houses here. The most important vote is the next vote."

I hate to say it...but McConnell's right.  Staying loyal to his caucus is what gives him the ability to rally the troops in close votes like this one.

[catfish1957]

I hate to say it...but McConnell's right.  Staying loyal to his caucus is what gives him the ability to rally the troops in close votes like this one.

I don't know...  He is more and more sounding like McCain.....   without the medals.

[Chosen Daughter]

I'm disappointed—not because of the result, because the Democrats made a painfully and comically weak case—but because of how nakedly partisan this whole process has become.

The Democrats voted to convict not because they thought he committed a heinous offense, but because they wanted to oust a political rival, no matter how flawed the charges were. That goes for Romney, too.

The Republicans, most of them anyway, voted to acquit not because they thought he was innocent, but because they felt obliged to protect the titular head of the party. I get the sense that very few members of either party voted on the merits of the case... other than perhaps Ted Cruz, who more than any other would have had a legit grievance against Trump for committing dirty tricks, but still voted to acquit.

To quote Johnny Cash... "and the lonely voice of youth cried, 'What is truth?'"

Trump narrowly escaped being removed from office and they are acting like he is some kind of hero.  The vote was even more narrow than the vote to acquit Bill Clinton in 1999.

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.vote/

No president has ever been removed and they weren't starting with Trump.  But it was narrow.  Very.

I listened to Susan Collins interview on FOX News and I could agree with what she said.


"The call was problematic".  She said many in the Senate thought so.  She is hoping that the President learned something from this and he wouldn't do it again.  I know that some people are going to trash her for this, but she did vote to acquit.   

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=susan+collins+fox+interview&&view=detail&mid=0E48291D91A35835C2640E48291D91A35835C264&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsusan%2Bcollins%2Bfox%2Binterview%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

I concur with Susan.

[catfish1957]

I listened to Susan Collins interview on FOX News and I could agree with what she said.


"The call was problematic".  She said many in the Senate thought so.  She is hoping that the President learned something from this and he wouldn't do it again.  I know that some people are going to trash her for this, but she did vote to acquit.   

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I concur with Susan.

Here is my $.02 on this matter.

I believe Trump et. al uncovovered the massive Biden corruption ring in Ukraine, under the guise of a petrochemical business endeavor.
Realizing the damage it was doing to both our countries, he took an approach that may have had bad optics, but was for the best interest of all parties.  Honestly, if I was in the same situation, I'd done the same thing.

As an analogy, I liken this event to someone getting a Jay-walking ticket, while trying to save a toddler who had went out in the middle of the road. Yeah, you broke some rules....  But.....

[Smokin Joe]

Trump narrowly escaped being removed from office and they are acting like he is some kind of hero.  The vote was even more narrow than the vote to acquit Bill Clinton in 1999.

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.vote/

No president has ever been removed and they weren't starting with Trump.  But it was narrow.  Very.

I listened to Susan Collins interview on FOX News and I could agree with what she said.


"The call was problematic".  She said many in the Senate thought so.  She is hoping that the President learned something from this and he wouldn't do it again.  I know that some people are going to trash her for this, but she did vote to acquit.   

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=susan+collins+fox+interview&&view=detail&mid=0E48291D91A35835C2640E48291D91A35835C264&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsusan%2Bcollins%2Bfox%2Binterview%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

I concur with Susan.

Oh, please. I have been hearing this sort of thing all day.

CIVICS LESSON:

It takes a 2/3 vote (67 votes) to remove the President.

The effort fell short, not by three votes, but by TWENTY.

Please ignore all the babble about how close this was, because the MSM wants you to walk away with the idea this was a narrow escape.

That's the PSYOP here, to make you think he barely "got away with it"--whatever "it" was.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

[DCPatriot]

So Hunter Biden, who has no education or experience in the petrochemical industry lands a $50K a month position in this organizaiton, and you do not think Biden corruption is involved, or Slow Joe intervened?

Hmmmmmm........

It's not $50K @ month.   It's $83.5K @ month.

[Snarknado]

Trump narrowly escaped being removed from office and they are acting like he is some kind of hero.  The vote was even more narrow than the vote to acquit Bill Clinton in 1999.

How is Trump's acquittal "narrower" than Clinton's 50-50 vote on obstruction?

[EdinVA]

Trump narrowly escaped being removed from office and they are acting like he is some kind of hero.  The vote was even more narrow than the vote to acquit Bill Clinton in 1999.

https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/senate.vote/

No president has ever been removed and they weren't starting with Trump.  But it was narrow.  Very.

I listened to Susan Collins interview on FOX News and I could agree with what she said.


"The call was problematic".  She said many in the Senate thought so.  She is hoping that the President learned something from this and he wouldn't do it again.  I know that some people are going to trash her for this, but she did vote to acquit.   

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=susan+collins+fox+interview&&view=detail&mid=0E48291D91A35835C2640E48291D91A35835C264&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsusan%2Bcollins%2Bfox%2Binterview%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

I concur with Susan.

@Chosen Daughter
To my way of thinking, Truth is found by considering all of the available facts, not cherry picking only those fact(s) that support a particular position.
Fact 1.  The obama administration had serious concerns about the bidens in ukraine as has been documented and somewhat investigated.  Slow joe even bragged about getting the Ukrainian investigator fired.  So this situation was known to the FBI/et al.
Fact 2.  The obama administration/democratic party hired foreign countries to gather and assemble the fictitious steel document and submitted it to the FISA court as a verified document to get the Full Legal Authorization to spy on the Trump campaign and presidency.
Fact 3.  The obama administration/democratic party used the steel document as a basis to allege Russia/Trump collusion and to justify the Mueller Investigation which resulted in bankrupting and imprisioning several private citizens based on unlawfully obtained fisa warrants and illegal spying.
Fact 4.  Your are asserting that ANYONE that is competing during an election can commit ANY crime and the incumbent cannot investigate the crime without committing election fraud.

I think that  is just and impossible leap for to make when considering ALL of the facts.

[Lando Lincoln]

Oh, please. I have been hearing this sort of thing all day.

CIVICS LESSON:

It takes a 2/3 vote (67 votes) to remove the President.

The effort fell short, not by three votes, but by TWENTY.

Please ignore all the babble about how close this was, because the MSM wants you to walk away with the idea this was a narrow escape.

That's the PSYOP here, to make you think he barely "got away with it"--whatever "it" was.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Thank you.  It is maddening.  And the talking heads willfully ignore and fail to inform at almost every turn. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Oh, please. I have been hearing this sort of thing all day.

CIVICS LESSON:

It takes a 2/3 vote (67 votes) to remove the President.

The effort fell short, not by three votes, but by TWENTY.

Please ignore all the babble about how close this was, because the MSM wants you to walk away with the idea this was a narrow escape.

That's the PSYOP here, to make you think he barely "got away with it"--whatever "it" was.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

I chalk it up to wishful thinking.  @Chosen Daughter has wanted Trump out for as long as the Dems have been wanting him out.  If the knowledge of the US Constitution is that poor, I wonder what else in there would come as a surprise?  There's a reason today's youth aren't taught Civics anymore.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Victoria33
@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak

Pam Bondi argues Biden corruption concerns are legitimate


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White House lawyer: ‘No link’ between Ukraine aid, investigations


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Hmmm.  Tough call.  Whom do I believe, the former AG of Florida, or Wikipedia?

[Victoria33]

@Chosen Daughter
Fact 2.  The obama administration/democratic party hired foreign countries to gather and assemble the fictitious steel document and submitted it to the FISA court as a verified document to get the Full Legal Authorization to spy on the Trump campaign and presidency.

The Republican Party and the Democrat party hired the same American company to do background study of candidates.  At some point, the Republican Party dropped that company.  No foreign country was involved in this.  The American company hired an investigator, Steele, who lives in the United Kingdom, to do this work because he had been an agent in Russia in past years.  In those past years, Steele had also worked as an agent for the FBI and he had a good reputation for doing excellent work for the FBI.

Once he gathered information, he was concerned with what he found, so he turned it over to the FBI for them to investigate further to determine if what he found was true.

[Victoria33]

So Hunter Biden, who has no education or experience in the petrochemical industry lands a $50K a month position in this organizaiton, and you do not think Biden corruption is involved, or Slow Joe intervened?
Hmmmmmm........

@catfish1957

I presented the facts of the Burisma case.  It appears you did not read it as the Biden's were not in that case.

[Cyber Liberty]

@catfish1957

I presented the facts of the Burisma case.  It appears you did not read it as the Biden's were not in that case.

Which case?  Ukraine's?  US's?  Canada's?  There are more than one case.  Just about every first-world country knows Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.  I suppose it's good to know somewhere, somebody's OK with the $83.3K per month job Hunter Biden got with no experience or actual work.  I'm quite sure Ukraine is OK with it.  Most Americans are not OK with it.

[XenaLee]

How is Trump's acquittal "narrower" than Clinton's 50-50 vote on obstruction?

It's not.   They are lying...

per usual.

Take note of which members here are spewing and regurgitating the lies, btw.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's not.   They are lying...

per usual.

Take note of which members here are spewing and regurgitating the lies, btw.

I cannot fathom how it's OK for the Bidens to take exorbitant bribes, but it's Impeachable to investigate those crimes.  What would have been Impeachable would have been ignoring the corruption. 

[Smokin Joe]

I cannot fathom how it's OK for the Bidens to take exorbitant bribes, but it's Impeachable to investigate those crimes.  What would have been Impeachable would have been ignoring the corruption.

Or 'preventing' investigation into it.

[Victoria33]

Hmmm.  Tough call.  Whom do I believe, the former AG of Florida, or Wikipedia?

@Cyber Liberty

I posted the timeline of the Burisma case from more than one source.  The Biden's were not in that case.  The former AG of Florida, tried to put them in that case - she is wrong.  It was Biden who worked with our allies to get rid of the prosecutor general who would not investigate Burisma.  Getting rid of that prosecutor would allow investigation of Burisma.