Veterans group demands apology from Trump over comments on brain injuries

[Mesaclone]

Maybe you should ask a soldier who's actually served before you go speaking for all of us.

I've served, and that statement DOES speak for the vast majority of veterans. Like any large group of people there are "fringers" on any topic...but generally, the President is powerfully supported and approved of within the Veteran community.

[Mesaclone]

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While I accept that Trump may indeed love the military;
I reject the inference that he is a heroic figure to the military.

And you know this....how?

[aligncare]

And you know this....how?

As are the vast majority of online comments, the poster’s opinion. What informs that opinion maybe left up to the reader to accept or reject.

[XenaLee]

And you know this....how?

He doesn't know it... he's projecting based on his own personal opinion of Trump, which apparently is negative (who knew?).

It doesn't take an Einstein to discern that most of the US Military leans to the right and therefore supports (I won't say loves) Donald Trump.  Yet some object to that.... for "some" reason. 

[sneakypete]

He doesn't know it... he's projecting based on his own personal opinion of Trump, which apparently is negative (who knew?).

It doesn't take an Einstein to discern that most of the US Military leans to the right and therefore supports (I won't say loves) Donald Trump.  Yet some object to that.... for "some" reason.

@XenaLee

I served,seems like maybe 100 years ago,but that doesn't make me a member of the US Military. Alumni,maybe.

I also don't like Trump and wouldn't invite him into my home. I'd probably refuse to shake his hand if he shoved it at me.

You can bet your bippy I will be voting for him,though. He is the only hope of survival for a free and independent America that we have,and my PERSONAL opinion of him is irrelevant. 

The fate of America and individual freedoms is more important than my personal prejudices.

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[musiclady]

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[TomSea]

Recipient of the Bronze Star and US Senator:

CBS' Margaret Brennan asked Cotton during Sunday's edition of Face the Nation if Trump should apologize to the soldiers, 34 of whom it turned out suffered traumatic brain injuries. She pointed out that Veterans of Foreign Wars, a prominent U.S. veterans advocacy group, called on Trump to apologize for his "misguided" comments about potentially dangerous injuries, while also noting Cotton likely knew several people who suffered from similar injuries during his time in the military, which included deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Cotton, though, argued Trump wasn't "dismissing" the soldiers' injuries, but simply "describing them." Tim O'Donnell

https://theweek.com/speedreads/891720/gop-senator-military-veteran-defends-trumps-comments-soldiers-brain-injuries

Describing them with the information he had at the time. My note, because it might have been what Trump was told at the time.

[Chosen Daughter]

Recipient of the Bronze Star and US Senator:
Describing them with the information he had at the time. My note, because it might have been what Trump was told at the time.

interesting take I guess.  Or a lame attempt to spin.

[txradioguy]

I've served, and that statement DOES speak for the vast majority of veterans. Like any large group of people there are "fringers" on any topic...but generally, the President is powerfully supported and approved of within the Veteran community.

And what exactly has he done for soldiers?  Or veterans for that matter?  I mean I know you think Trump walks on water and all but as someone currently serving and fixing to enter the VA system as a vet...I haven't seen much.

Please enlighten me. 

[txradioguy]

He doesn't know it... he's projecting based on his own personal opinion of Trump, which apparently is negative (who knew?).

Right and all those times I have stuck up for him you just ignore because for it to count I must praise him all the time right?

It doesn't take an Einstein to discern that most of the US Military leans to the right and therefore supports (I won't say loves) Donald Trump.  Yet some object to that.... for "some" reason.

There's more opposition to him at this point than there was to Obama at the same point in their terms.  Yes the military leans right...but their loyalty isn't guaranteed just because the person has an (R) by their name.  Just because YOU love Trump that much doesn't mean the rest of us do whether we vote for him or support his actions towards the military.

Which at this point hasn't been much.

And I can guarantee you none of us serving would so willingly give him  pass for glossing over something as serious as TBI the way some folks here do.

[Bigun]

And what exactly has he done for soldiers?  Or veterans for that matter?  I mean I know you think Trump walks on water and all but as someone currently serving and fixing to enter the VA system as a vet...I haven't seen much.

Please enlighten me.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/07/30/veterans-win-trump-administrations-mission-act-reforms.html

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/469825-veterans-affairs-reform-is-now-reality-under-president-trump

https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/veterans/

[txradioguy]

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/07/30/veterans-win-trump-administrations-mission-act-reforms.html

An opinion piece.  Nothing factual or noticeable by the veterans suffering or in need of medical care they can't get right now.  Just a lot of "hey looks e passed this bill" and nothing to show for it.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/469825-veterans-affairs-reform-is-now-reality-under-president-trump

That's an opinion piece by the way.  Someone's "opinion".  Doesn't reflect reality.

The Hill?  The source that gets mocked here because of allegedly being anti-Trump?

Bigger budgets don't mean things get better or that reform is actually happening by the way.

Hey get back to me on reforms being reality when a Veteran can take and use his VA Medical card at any hospital...or vets aren't killing themselves anymore in VA parking lots because they don't feel they have any other alternative because they can't get treatment.

Oh and hey...anyone seen or heard from the head of the VA lately?

https://www.promiseskept.com/achievement/overview/veterans/

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[EdinVA]

And what exactly has he done for soldiers?  Or veterans for that matter?  I mean I know you think Trump walks on water and all but as someone currently serving and fixing to enter the VA system as a vet...I haven't seen much.

Please enlighten me.

@txradioguy

Just thought I would dump my 2 cents...
The VA has been an absolute disaster since it's founding and no administration has been able to fix it so laying all of this on President Trump is not fair.
The "hidden" patient folders during the obama administration caused hundreds of deaths and those that were responsible were never held accountable because of the federal government unions protecting the career federal employees.  It has become clear that our elected and appointed officials are legally unable to take the corrective action needed and we need legislation to change this.
If you will recall, the IRS Lois Learner event where it was discovered that she was "penalizing" conservative groups using the full weight and measure of the IRS.  She was not only not held accountable but was allowed to retire with full retirement benefits because the government could not take action.
While I share your criticisms, I think the your focus should be elsewhere.
I am done... :)

[libertybele]

@txradioguy

Just thought I would dump my 2 cents...
The VA has been an absolute disaster since it's founding and no administration has been able to fix it so laying all of this on President Trump is not fair.
The "hidden" patient folders during the obama administration caused hundreds of deaths and those that were responsible were never held accountable because of the federal government unions protecting the career federal employees.  It has become clear that our elected and appointed officials are legally unable to take the corrective action needed and we need legislation to change this.
If you will recall, the IRS Lois Learner event where it was discovered that she was "penalizing" conservative groups using the full weight and measure of the IRS.  She was not only not held accountable but was allowed to retire with full retirement benefits because the government could not take action.
While I share your criticisms, I think the your focus should be elsewhere.
I am done... :)

My father in-law is a WWII vet.  He has been able to go to doctors and specialists outside the VA -- he can go to the local hospital for treatment and not a VA hospital because of the distance.  So the change has been welcome.