Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion

[mountaineer]

Can you provide a link for that claim?  Not just a worse risk but any risk at all?

A very small percentage of the serious cases do involve otherwise healthy people. Not sure whether any of the deaths involved young and/or healthy individuals. Will try to find stats.

[TomSea]

New York City To Release Inmates Due To Coronavirus Outbreak

New York is the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in America and the nation watches to see the response in solidarity with that city and state but also to get a preview of what is coming for the rest of us.

New York Governor Cuomo announced the state is doing thousands of tests now after an enormous effort to get that system on track.

Trump has sent a hospital ship to help with the expected burden on its health care system.

More:  https://newsthud.com/new-york-city-to-release-inmates-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak/  summarizing from the NY Post:   https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/nyc-to-begin-releasing-inmates-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook

It's a hard call, if inmates get sick and die, I'm sure the institutions can be sued.

[TomSea]

Symptom: Shortness of breath along with what seems to go along with a "chest tightness", I can see what that would look like.

Lots of details too, such as if the virus stays in the upper lung vs. the lower lung which I believe is like pneumonia  (worse).

The most common symptoms of coronavirus include a fever, fatigue, cough or chest tightness, and difficulty breathing.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-symptoms-17664821

Immune system, again, I'm hitting the vitamin C, airborne chewable tablets which has zinc too or Emergen-C seem to be decent.  Totally unproven, just some of what I'm doing.

[mountaineer]

I've read that those zinc lozenges may be helpful with viruses. I was at a church meeting last night and one of the members - a family medicine practitioner - urged use of Zicam or similar products.

[DB]

I've read that those zinc lozenges may be helpful with viruses. I was at a church meeting last night and one of the members - a family medicine practitioner - urged use of Zicam or similar products.

http://www.tasteandsmell.com/apr04.htm

[mountaineer]

http://www.tasteandsmell.com/apr04.htm

My doctor friend said do not use the nasal spray, just the zinc lozenges.

[Bigun]

Stanford Professor: Data Indicates We’re Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus

The professor is correct!

[musiclady]

I've read that those zinc lozenges may be helpful with viruses. I was at a church meeting last night and one of the members - a family medicine practitioner - urged use of Zicam or similar products.

Airborne is also very good.  It has loads of Vitamin C (and other vitamins), zinc, magnesium and other goodies.  It was developed by a school teacher who got tired of getting sick every fall.  (I used to do that too when I was teaching).

We take it daily and almost never get sick from anything, and if we do, it's always a very mild version of a cold or whatever.....

There are gummies, fizzies and chewable versions of it.  I use any of the three.

It's a little pricey, but to me well worth it since it keeps me healthy and not in need of other OTC meds.

[Smokin Joe]

Can you provide a link for that claim?  Not just a worse risk but any risk at all?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says Scroll down to the graphic (pie chart) 99,2% of the Italians had some serious underlying health issue or multiple issues.

[mountaineer]

We'll see if there are any zinc products on the drugstore shelves. Will report back tomorrow, after my shopping trip.

[Smokin Joe]

Stanford Professor: Data Indicates We’re Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus

The professor is correct!

We've been saying that all along.

[musiclady]

The professor is correct!

Those of us who are visually impaired wear glasses to correct our vision.  Can you please keep the font size down?  Sheesh!   

btw, that is one professor whose opinion is in opposition to thousands of other health care professionals and scientists.

Just make sure that in your cynicism, you don't get yourself sick........... or make anyone sick that you care about.

[Bigun]

We've been saying that all along.

   And we are still right!

[musiclady]

We now have a case in our county in Ohio. 

89 known cases in the state, up from 3 a week ago.

So far, praise the Lord, no deaths.  But some hospitalized and very, very sick.

The state of Ohio is doing its best to flatten the curve of the spread of this 20x more communicable than flu disease.

Hospitals all over the country are low on protective gear for the first responders..... doctors, nurses, life-savers.

Keep praying for them and for us as a nation.

We have never seen anything of this nature before.  We are in uncharted territory.

[DB]

  And we are still right!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/younger-adults-comprise-big-portion-of-coronavirus-hospitalizations-in-us/ar-BB11nGEB?li=BBnb7Kz

[Cyber Liberty]

Stanford Professor: Data Indicates We’re Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus

The professor is correct!

In related news, a Stanford Professor was taken out into the parking lot by other Professors and had the crap kicked out of him for jeopardizing their gumming grant money....

[roamer_1]

The professor is correct!

That's right.

[TomSea]

Article was already posted.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395334.0.html

[corbe]

World Keeps Spinning ~ Uncle Lucius


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[Hoodat]

We've been saying that all along.

And in return, we have been accused of 'bullying', 'making personal attacks', 'using innuendo', 'making ad hominems', and 'accusing others of trying to scare others with no back up'.

[Hoodat]

Atlanta Rhythm Section  -  I'm Not Gonna Let It Bother Me Tonight

[corbe]

   Love me some ARS, Thanks @Hoodat

[Hoodat]

My pleasure.

[Smokin Joe]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/younger-adults-comprise-big-portion-of-coronavirus-hospitalizations-in-us/ar-BB11nGEB?li=BBnb7Kz

The report included no information about whether patients of any age had underlying risk factors, such as a chronic illness or a compromised immune system. So, it is impossible to determine whether the younger patients who were hospitalized were more susceptible to serious infection than most others in their age group.

There's the bugaboo in this.There is some critical data missing, data which may help the average person much more accurately assess their personal risk.  In Italy, those killed by the virus (99.2%) had either diabetes, High Blood Pressure, or a coronary condition--or a combination of those.

Similarly, we have relatively young people who exhibit those (and other) illnesses which may make them more susceptible to the virus. Every shrieking headline seems to have some critical information missing.

Yes, young people can catch the virus. That part isn't age dependent. However, the likelihood of developing heart disease, diabetes, or having High Blood Pressure generally increases with age, so that skews the age of those who become critically ill or die upwards. It does not remove risk from younger people who have those conditions.

[Idiot]

Much of these big business owners are us, stock holders with our 401ks.

Just don't look at your statement this month....I'm not.