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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1325 on: March 12, 2020, 05:31:42 pm »
OK, seriously: shut up.

This is not the time.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1326 on: March 12, 2020, 05:34:25 pm »
He has acted very quickly; he has met with big pharma and those working on a vaccine to expedite processes, he has shut down travel from various different parts of the world into the U.S. as well now from Europe, he has asked Congress for $$ to handle the situation along with requesting stopping payroll taxes to boost the economy along with small business loans, fees waived on testing for the virus, etc., he has put Pence in charge who has set up different protocols.  Trump has met with the WHO and CDC.  He has also requested quarantines.

Maybe as an American citizen doing your part to stand together in all of this might be appreciated instead of playing your usual part in ripping apart this President.  Just sayin'

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1327 on: March 12, 2020, 05:44:39 pm »
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1328 on: March 12, 2020, 05:51:09 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1329 on: March 12, 2020, 05:51:43 pm »
NHL suspends season indefinitely due to coronavirus concerns


https://www.usatoday.com/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1330 on: March 12, 2020, 05:56:44 pm »
 
That's what we all need to do.

This is not the end of the world, and inducing panic is the worst thing that can be done.

@musiclady my neighbor went to the liquor store this morning. She’s telecommuting. At 11 am the line to get in was out the door, and the cashiers lines were all open and she said the lines to check out were like Black Friday. And people were buying booze like the world will end in 48 hours so let’s get drunk.....

Weird.

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Wait. Since I don’t drink, should I buy ice cream and a Magic Mike DVD?.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1331 on: March 12, 2020, 06:10:32 pm »

@musiclady my neighbor went to the liquor store this morning. She’s telecommuting. At 11 am the line to get in was out the door, and the cashiers lines were all open and she said the lines to check out were like Black Friday. And people were buying booze like the world will end in 48 hours so let’s get drunk.....

Weird.

 :martini:   :beer:

Wait. Since I don’t drink, should I buy ice cream and a Magic Mike DVD?.

People are just weird.  That's all.

But buying ice cream instead of alcohol.......... now THERE's a thought!   happy77
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1332 on: March 12, 2020, 06:38:21 pm »
The local Six Flags Over Jesus megachurch just canceled all services for this weekend.

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Southeast Christian Church will be meeting exclusively online this weekend. We welcome you to join us online on all of our church-wide digital platforms: YouTube, Facebook, and online.southeastchristian.org, which airs Sunday mornings at 9:15 a.m., 11:30 a.m., 2:00 p.m., and 8:00 p.m.


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1333 on: March 12, 2020, 06:41:46 pm »

@musiclady my neighbor went to the liquor store this morning. She’s telecommuting. At 11 am the line to get in was out the door, and the cashiers lines were all open and she said the lines to check out were like Black Friday. And people were buying booze like the world will end in 48 hours so let’s get drunk.....

Weird.

I experienced the same thing with the local crack dealer.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1334 on: March 12, 2020, 06:42:41 pm »
And MLB is suspending spring training and pushing back the start of the season.
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https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/03/12/major-league-baseball-expected-to-suspend-spring-training-today/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1335 on: March 12, 2020, 06:43:04 pm »

@musiclady my neighbor went to the liquor store this morning. She’s telecommuting. At 11 am the line to get in was out the door, and the cashiers lines were all open and she said the lines to check out were like Black Friday. And people were buying booze like the world will end in 48 hours so let’s get drunk.....

Weird.

 :martini:   :beer:

Wait. Since I don’t drink, should I buy ice cream and a Magic Mike DVD?.

We lived in Sunnyvale CA across from a 7/11 at the time of the '89 quake. People were lined up out the door following the shaker.

The next day I took a look inside - it was cleaned out. Food, water, soft drinks, combs, pens, paper, insecticide... everything was gone.

People ARE weird.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1336 on: March 12, 2020, 06:46:34 pm »
We lived in Sunnyvale CA across from a 7/11 at the time of the '89 quake. People were lined up out the door following the shaker.

The next day I took a look inside - it was cleaned out. Food, water, soft drinks, combs, pens, paper, insecticide... everything was gone.

People ARE weird.

Yep, Jim Morrison pegged it. Who would have thunk it?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1337 on: March 12, 2020, 06:47:57 pm »
It's also disingenuous to make a claim with NO backup what so ever.

So, one asserts nobody under 50 is dying from this. Okay, is there any backup? I'm the King of the Netherlands too, nice to not have to back up any claims.

Everyone knows that the elderly are much more at risk here but that is different than asserting there are no deaths under 50.

And again,  the statement from what I understand and I could be wrong, is that there are no deaths under 50. I can probably find info saying the average age of those who die is 81, I saw that the other day but nonetheless, we are talking of a statement without backup.

You have people in hazmat suits. What's next? Find that one of them died under 40 and now claim it's disingenuous to mention them because they are working in moving bodies?  One can always do that, maybe the person has a weak immune system, they inherited it? I'm sure, we can find something for virtually everyone who has died from the disease.
I never made the claim that no one under 50, 40, 30, etc. hadn't died from the disease.

I just noted some factors which might contribute to the sub influenza mortality rates among younger patients overall versus much higher rates in elderly populations.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1338 on: March 12, 2020, 06:53:25 pm »
Exactly.  This was a MSM / dim premedicated event from the outset. Notice we didn't see the same hysteria for H1N1, SARS, or MERS?
Gotta love the way they made so many excuses for bringing Ebola (zaire) to North America, too.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1339 on: March 12, 2020, 07:05:03 pm »
I read that!  It's NUTS!

I wouldn't think even the average Democrat would believe that we started the virus and then blamed them.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1340 on: March 12, 2020, 07:19:01 pm »
Don’t know if this was mentioned before but I heard some research on corona that found that individuals infected with one strain of virus appear to have resistance to infection by a different strain. While the mechanism is not fully understood, findings suggest the infecting strain changes the cell wall in a way that blocks infection by a competing strain.  This seems to suggests that an individual with a mild case of seasonal flu would be resistant to corona infection.

Again, this event doesn’t appear to be tied to an individual’s immune response to the new strain but rather to factors introduced by the initial virus.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1341 on: March 12, 2020, 07:28:10 pm »
I thought we weren't supposed to know it's survivable.
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Woman who survived coronavirus shares her early symptoms
By Jane Ridley
March 12, 2020

At last comes a measure of reassurance about the effects of the global pandemic: A woman who has fully recovered from coronavirus is a living, breathing beacon of hope.

Elizabeth Schneider, 37, had a relatively mild experience with the sometimes-deadly virus, for which she treated herself at her home in Seattle, Washington. ...

Her story is more common than one might think: US health authorities say 80% of cases have been mild. The remaining cases that needed hospitalization affected mainly citizens over the age of 60 and those with pre-existing conditions such as diabetes, heart disease or lung disease. ...

The symptoms occurred three days after she attended a party that was later identified as the place where at least five others caught the bug.

“I woke up and I was feeling tired, but it was nothing more than what you normally feel when you have to get up and go to work, and I had been very busy the previous weekend,” she said.

She felt a headache coming on around noon, along with fever and body aches.  ...

Schneider wrongly assumed she didn’t have COVID-19 because she didn’t experience the usual symptoms such as coughing or shortness of breath.   ...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1342 on: March 12, 2020, 07:41:17 pm »
We lived in Sunnyvale CA across from a 7/11 at the time of the '89 quake. People were lined up out the door following the shaker.

The next day I took a look inside - it was cleaned out. Food, water, soft drinks, combs, pens, paper, insecticide... everything was gone.

People ARE weird.

Toilet paper was out at our local Sams Club and Kroger.

What makes people think gobs of toilet paper will help them if they get sick??

MORE than weird!!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1343 on: March 12, 2020, 07:47:01 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1344 on: March 12, 2020, 07:56:40 pm »
OK, seriously: shut up.

This is not the time.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1345 on: March 12, 2020, 08:17:07 pm »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1347 on: March 12, 2020, 08:26:15 pm »
I don't bother defending Trump to you, @Once-Ler.  It's like trying to teach a pig to dance.  It won't be successful and it annoys the pig.

Perhaps... if you offered up a mud-wrestling party instead....   888mouth
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1348 on: March 12, 2020, 08:47:59 pm »
March 14th til the end of the month, now, Disneyland will be closed.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1349 on: March 12, 2020, 08:51:56 pm »
Walmart shelves empty of lysol, bleach, toilet paper, and a few other items.   Thus proving that if America falls, it will be due to sheer stupidity.
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