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Bevin, a Republican who has polled consistently as among the least popular governors in the nation, highlighted his anti-abortion rights agenda and close ties with President Donald Trump. He switched his lieutenant governor running mate this time out to Ralph Alvardo.

John Hicks and Ann Cormican ran a long-shot race on the Libertarian Party ticket.

On Tuesday after casting his ballot, Bevin said he was feeling good and confident.

“I thought we’d win by 6 to 10 [percentage points]. I still feel very confident in that," he said. "I’d like it to be more like 10 to 12. We’ll see.”

Trump and Vice President Mike Pence made high-profile visits in the final week before the election, including an election eve rally by Trump in downtown Lexington at Rupp Arena.

While Bevin basked in the attention and personal visits from Trump and Pence, Beshear worked to shore up votes and keep voters looking at local issues, including his support for expanded gambling in the state.

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 03:12:03 am »
McConnell has nothing to worry about.

Beshear needs to put away the tape measure .... this is going to a recount.

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2019, 03:17:31 am »
I almost forgot...Great rally Mr President ! :patriot: :hands:

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 03:19:40 am »
I almost forgot...Great rally Mr President ! :patriot: :hands:

On this we agree.  POTUS dragged Bevin's (obviously) sorry arse from 17 points behind to a recount.

Not too shabby for one night's work, Mr. President!  Well done!

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 03:20:43 am »
Recounts only work for Democrats.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 03:30:43 am »
Recounts only work for Democrats.

Too late to switch parties in Kentucky?   :laugh:

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2019, 03:35:44 am »
Too late to switch parties in Kentucky?   :laugh:

Not sure what's funny about that.  A candidate that Trump dished out money to defeat in 2014  just lost a re-election bid with Trump's support.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 03:48:54 am »
Not sure what's funny about that.  A candidate that Trump dished out money to defeat in 2014  just lost a re-election bid with Trump's support.

Because I'm a realist @Hoodat  By all accounts, Bevin was a superbly flawed candidate --- and he has the responsibility here.  But, as I posted earlier, POTUS dragged Bevin from 17 points behind to a recount ... not bad for one night's work. It's also my understanding that the statehouse is red so, if true, that's a natural and powerful firewall against most of the damage Breshear could cause.

Looking at recent history, only two of the last ten governors in Kentucky have been Republican. So it's not a shock that a dem will probably win this election.  Especially since prior to Matt Bevin, Andy Breshear’s father, Steve Breshear, was Governor.  (Yeah, daddy   wink777)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Kentucky

Peace.   :beer:

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 03:52:23 am »
Because I'm a realist @Hoodat  By all accounts, Bevin was a superbly flawed candidate --- and he has the responsibility here.

Ah, so it has nothing to do with "conscience voters".  Glad we cleared that up.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 05:37:46 am »
On this we agree.  POTUS dragged Bevin's (obviously) sorry arse from 17 points behind to a recount.

Not too shabby for one night's work, Mr. President!  Well done!

:patriot: Tomorrow I'm gonna buy some bourbon and a big bucket of KFC, sit in my comfy chair, and read Trump's tweets in celebration of yet another Trump victory.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2019/governor/ky/kentucky_governor_bevin_vs_beshear-6723.html


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11:37 PM: Bevin had been down at least 15 points
11:41 PM: Bevin had been down 17 points
12:15 AM: Bevin might’ve been down 20 points

Going to bed, very excited to see what Bevin was down when I wake up


Bevin wasn’t even going to vote for himself before Trump intervened
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 06:17:22 am »
Because I'm a realist @Hoodat  By all accounts, Bevin was a superbly flawed candidate --- and he has the responsibility here.  But, as I posted earlier, POTUS dragged Bevin from 17 points behind to a recount ... not bad for one night's work. It's also my understanding that the statehouse is red so, if true, that's a natural and powerful firewall against most of the damage Breshear could cause.

Looking at recent history, only two of the last ten governors in Kentucky have been Republican. So it's not a shock that a dem will probably win this election.  Especially since prior to Matt Bevin, Andy Breshear’s father, Steve Breshear, was Governor.  (Yeah, daddy   wink777)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Kentucky

Peace.   :beer:

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 06:45:14 am »
For some strange reason, some of the responses on this thread are making me hungry for pretzels.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2019, 09:40:50 am »
Because I'm a realist @Hoodat  By all accounts, Bevin was a superbly flawed candidate --- and he has the responsibility here. 

Just wow, where have I heard that before....
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 02:07:39 pm »
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Bevin seems to have lost for three reasons:

One as the Washington Post notes, he only got into office four years ago by a thin 85,000-vote margin. So he was on thin ice all through his term and didn't work to increase his support.

Two, he had a third party challenge. Sen. Rand Paul is a popular Senator in Kentucky and on that ground alone, his libertarian allies managed to run a third-party candidate that won 2% of the vote. Had they not, Bevin might have pulled through.

Three, and this seems to have been the big one: Bevin wasn't popular. A poll that ran in April had him ranked as the least popular governor in all 50 states. [...]  Bottom line, he shouldn't have been the candidate.

Now, for sure, the Democrats are going to be emboldened in their impeach-Trump and retake Congress and the White House plan by this incident. That's going to give them energy, which isn't a good thing.

But it seems to be an isolated incident, given that most candidates endorsed by Trump have run away with victory. In Mississippi, Republicans won by a large margin. In Kentucky, Republicans made gains, too, and it was only the Republican governor who lost.

According to the WaPo, the Republicans picked up the state Attorney General's seat, finding a good candidate in a black conservative. The mistake was in running Bevin. A Trump endorsement is a mighty thing, but it can't do a thing for a weak candidate.


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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 02:14:49 pm »
For some strange reason, some of the responses on this thread are making me hungry for pretzels.
Those pretzels will make you thirsty, though...
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2019, 02:31:01 pm »
Those pretzels will make you thirsty, though...
lololololololol….good one!

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2019, 03:00:53 pm »
Not sure what's funny about that.  A candidate that Trump dished out money to defeat in 2014  just lost a re-election bid with Trump's support.
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Last night, I heard their Kentucky Secretary of State, whose Election Division is responsible for state elections.  Their recount policy is like Texas except for one difference. 
1.  Their automatic recount is like ours.  After the election, in every county, the election administrator must certify their count, meaning there were no irregularities in the count. That report is sent to the Secretary of State, Elections Division.

2. She said if the candidate who lost wants a recount of the totals, it will be done.  I suspect the candidate will have to pay for that recount since she did not say it would be free to that candidate.   

3. Texas is different than number 2 above.  We have a set number of the difference between the candidates, and if the count is that close, an automatic recount starts, neither candidate paying for it.  If the difference in the count is not within that number, the candidate can ask for a recount but will have to pay for it.

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019, 03:11:57 pm »
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Last night, I heard their Kentucky Secretary of State, whose Election Division is responsible for state elections.  Their recount policy is like Texas except for one difference. 
1.  Their automatic recount is like ours.  After the election, in every county, the election administrator must certify their count, meaning there were no irregularities in the count. That report is sent to the Secretary of State, Elections Division.

2. She said if the candidate who lost wants a recount of the totals, it will be done.  I suspect the candidate will have to pay for that recount since she did not say it would be free to that candidate.   

3. Texas is different than number 2 above.  We have a set number of the difference between the candidates, and if the count is that close, an automatic recount starts, neither candidate paying for it.  If the difference in the count is not within that number, the candidate can ask for a recount but will have to pay for it.

Bottom line:  No auto-recount, even if the vote difference is <0.3%.

It doesn't matter.  Recounts always go Dem once they figured out they can rig it to always win.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2019, 04:08:53 pm »
As the old saying goes, "a few more victories like this and we will be undone!" https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/KY/97213/web/#/summary . Other than Beshear-Bevin it was a Dem debacle. And Beshear's margin over Bevin was ~5K, pretty slim.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2019, 04:25:46 pm »
As the old saying goes, a few more "victories like this and we will be undone! https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/KY/97213/web/#/summary . Other than Beshear-Bevin it was a Dem debacle. And Beshear's margin over Bevin was ~5K, pretty slim.

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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2019, 04:26:07 pm »
As the old saying goes, a few more "victories like this and we will be undone! https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/KY/97213/web/#/summary . Other than Beshear-Bevin it was a Dem debacle. And Beshear's margin over Bevin was ~5K, pretty slim.
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2019, 04:28:37 pm »
President Trump pulled Bevin up from a sorry 32% to a competitive 49%. Close but no cigar, thanks to the spoiler libertarian party candidate, as the esteemed RIV noted.

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2019, 04:49:38 pm »
President Trump pulled Bevin up from a sorry 32% to a competitive 49%. Close but no cigar, thanks to the spoiler libertarian party candidate, as the esteemed RIV noted.

I'm not finding any poll with Bevin at 32%.  This poll from last June showed him at 48%:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2019/Gravis_Kentucky_June_2019.pdf

At what point did Trump begin to openly support him?
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Re: Beshear overcomes Trump effect to beat Bevin to become next KY governor
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2019, 05:22:47 pm »
He could pull a Stacey Abrarams..
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