Four years after allowing universal ‘concealed carry’ law, Maine rated the safest state in the natio

[mystery-ak]

September 5, 2019
Four years after allowing universal ‘concealed carry’ law, Maine rated the safest state in the nation for crime
By Thomas Lifson

Since 2015, residents of the state of Maine have been allowed to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit, and now the results are in: crime has fallen to the point where the state is now rated the safest in the nation from the threat of crime. The Maine Examiner reports:

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.

One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/four_years_after_allowing_universal_concealed_carry_law_maine_rated_the_safest_state_in_the_nation_for_crime.html

[thackney]

...One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers criminals a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions still unable to legally carrying handguns.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/four_years_after_allowing_universal_concealed_carry_law_maine_rated_the_safest_state_in_the_nation_for_crime.html

[verga]

More guns= less crime

[Longiron]

Exactly Correct BUT the kickbacks to the politicians are smaller and dry up. Take guns away from the good guys and think supply and demand. More pay off politicians , higher prices for the gun runners ( need open borders) and the bad guys have a huge advantage!

[XenaLee]

A polite society....

is an armed society.

Or ...an armed society ...

is a polite society.

As long as ....the society is not infected with radical leftists that import millions of impolite criminals, rapists, murderers, etc., that then proceed to prey on that polite society.  And as long as those radical leftists don't proceed to 'let off' those criminals with light sentences,

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/harmeet-dhillon-kate-steinles-killer-escapes-punishment-sanctuary-for-illegal-immigrants-endangers-us-all

thus making a mockery of America's rule of law, system of justice and tradition of due process.... in the process creating as much chaos and division as they possibly can.

Considering the point we have reached.... an armed society no longer has to be a polite society.  It just has to be able to defend itself from the imported criminals AND from the radical leftist criminals embedded within the justice system and other branches of government.

 

[OfTheCross]

These rankings just started in 2017. There's no way of knowing the law's impact or effect.

[Bigun]

These rankings just started in 2017. There's no way of knowing the law's impact or effect.

 

[Fishrrman]

There's a reason why Maine is one of the most crime-free states.
Vermont is close behind, for the same reason.
And it has nothing at all to do with gun laws per se.

Can you guess what that reason is?

[txradioguy]

These rankings just started in 2017. There's no way of knowing the law's impact or effect.

And yet the statistics show the law is working...as it is in other states with similar laws.

[OfTheCross]

And yet the statistics show the law is working...as it is in other states with similar laws.

What statistics show that?

[Bigun]

What statistics show that?

ALL of them!  There's a book out there entitled More Guns, Less Crime
  filled with them.  You might want to get a copy and read it.

[OfTheCross]

ALL of them!  There's a book out there entitled More Guns, Less Crime
  filled with them.  You might want to get a copy and read it.

I appreciate the book recommendation. I'll add it to my wish list.

In searching for the title, this came up, though:

‘More Guns, Less Crime’ Is Wishful Thinking
There’s mounting evidence violence rises after states adopt right-to-carry laws.

In the most thorough study yet published on the effects of concealed carry laws, a team led by Stanford University law professor John Donohue found that state laws making it easy to carry concealed firearms lead to more violent crime. The Stanford analysis follows a stream of previous studies reaching similar conclusions about so-called right-to-carry (RTC) laws. It’s the most definitive refutation of the “more guns, less crime” thesis promoted by the gun lobby — which, not surprisingly, remains hostile to peer-reviewed research on the causes of gun violence.

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[Bigun]

I appreciate the book recommendation. I'll add it to my wish list.

In searching for the title, this came up, though:

I'll take the thoroughly researched facts in the book over the contrived speculation in that Bloomberg article every day of the week. 

[OfTheCross]

I'll take the thoroughly researched facts in the book over the contrived speculation in that Bloomberg article every day of the week.

If you have the book in hand, can you provide the name of 1 or 2 of the studies used so that we can compare them to those linked in article?

[Bigun]

If you have the book in hand, can you provide the name of 1 or 2 of the studies used so that we can compare them to those linked in article?

Here is the author's website. Research away.

[Sanguine]

If you have the book in hand, can you provide the name of 1 or 2 of the studies used so that we can compare them to those linked in article?

You're not familiar with the book or the author?  How....odd.

[goatprairie]

When Minnesota passed cc a few years ago, the opponents predicted a huge rise in violent crime.  It didn't happen. The violent crime rate remained the same. Opponents had to eat crow.
Passing cc won't necessarily lower the violent crime rate, but it doesn't make things worse.

[Sighlass]

There's a reason why Maine is one of the most crime-free states.
Vermont is close behind, for the same reason.
And it has nothing at all to do with gun laws per se.

Can you guess what that reason is?

Yes, but I don't expect anyone else to chime in. Gun laws only hurt good folks... Gun laws don't any good in certain regions so why deny freedom of the good folks in the area.

[OfTheCross]

Here is the author's website. Research away.

Thanks, I'll check this out over the weekend

[txradioguy]

What statistics show that?

Happy reading. Hope the truth doesn’t give you too much of a headache.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/more-guns-more-crime

[txradioguy]

There's a reason why Maine is one of the most crime-free states.
Vermont is close behind, for the same reason.
And it has nothing at all to do with gun laws per se.

Can you guess what that reason is?

Don’t make this a racial thing please.

[txradioguy]

You're not familiar with the book or the author?  How....odd.

@Sanguine in typical Liberal fashion OTC is wanting us to do the research for them.

[edpc]

There's a reason why Maine is one of the most crime-free states. Vermont is close behind, for the same reason. And it has nothing at all to do with gun laws per se.

Can you guess what that reason is?

They are too drunk to go out and commit crimes?


Mainers are among the heaviest-drinking Americans

https://bangordailynews.com/2016/12/25/news/state/mainers-are-among-the-heaviest-drinking-americans/

[OfTheCross]

Happy reading. Hope the truth doesn’t give you too much of a headache.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/more-guns-more-crime

 

Did you link the right article?

This one says that more guns don't lead to less crime

[txradioguy]

Did you link the right article?

This one says that more guns don't lead to less crime

I did indeed link to the wrong one.  Nice catch.  It's what I get for trying to post from my iPhone.

Here's the link I meant to post.

http://www.aei.org/publication/chart-of-the-day-more-guns-less-gun-violence-between-1993-and-2013/

And I also found this too:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-gun-crimes-plummet/#6ce956233f7c