Amash quits Republican Party

[Bigun]

Hope he doesn't let the door hit him in the azz on his way out!

[EasyAce]

IMHO, it is the FED that is in our business and if we are to survive our rights must be reclaimed and returned at the state level. That is why I was hoping for a Convention of States.  It is too late, because of the shift to liberal leadership in some states during the mid terms, clearly beginning the exodus from those states into states more conservative with less taxes, etc.

@libertybele
I meant "the State" along the line of the distinction Albert Jay Nock drew in his 1935 anti-statism classic, Our Enemy, the State, not "the State" in terms of the individual states of the U.S. And anyone who thinks the federal government is the only government in the United States poking its nose far too often into individual Americans' business should think again. Hard.

[dfwgator]

[dfwgator]

Meh. Amash's record is all hat no cattle.

And his rants about the Republican party are off the reservation.

Would it be that the DC GOP actually had some partisanship, and some spine.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the dangers of today's Democratic Party needs to be gone.

[dfwgator]

What's that old saying?  It's something like:  if you shoot at the king, don't miss??  (Calm down, the word "king" isn't literal)

It sure sounds lofty when Amash says he's leaving the Republican Party because he's "disenchanted with party politics and frightened by what I see from it".   Well, what's frightening the hell out of him is how badly he's losing in the primary fight for his Congressional seat.  It appears folks don't like it when you shoot to politically kill the POTUS, who is also the leader of your own Party.

Amash shot and missed.  There's nothing more to his abdication than he is now paying the price.

It's the same reason Flake went rogue,  he saw his poll numbers in the dumps, so he went "scorched Earth."

[dfwgator]

He is a 92% Conservative according to Conservative review.
He also leans libertarian.

He is one of the last canaries in the coal mine.
It is perilous.

But the Libertarian Party has drifted to the Left over time, so I'm not sure they would welcome Amash.

[Free Vulcan]

Anyone who doesn't recognize the dangers of today's Democratic Party needs to be gone.

No freaking joke.

The Commie takeover of the Dems starting around '68 has been completed. They are now full fledged, sorched earth witch burners right to the top of their leadership in the party and Congress both.

[roamer_1]

But the Libertarian Party has drifted to the Left over time, so I'm not sure they would welcome Amash.

I meant civil-libertarian. Goldwater/Reagan. Like me and dang near everyone else west of the Mississippi.

[EasyAce]

But the Libertarian Party has drifted to the Left over time, so I'm not sure they would welcome Amash.

@dfwgator
The LP wouldn't take him (and he probably wouldn't take it, either), but it's wise to remember that libertarianism is not the exclusive province of the LP and, when you see "libertarian" with a lower-case "l," you can assume safely the comment has absolutely nothing to do with the LP.

[mountaineer]

But the Libertarian Party has drifted to the Left over time, so I'm not sure they would welcome Amash.

True. Nowadays, labels like liberal, libertarian, even conservative don't always accurately describe a person's beliefs.

[EasyAce]

True. Nowadays, labels like liberal, libertarian, even conservative don't always accurately describe a person's beliefs.

A National Review writer offered a splendid example of that a couple of years ago . . .

[mountaineer]

Allahpundit   @allahpundit
If Amash runs for president as the Libertarian nominee next year, does he get more or fewer votes than Gary Johnson got in 2016?
11:27 AM - 4 Jul 2019


GOP Pouncer   @Mellecon
GOP Pouncer Retweeted Allahpundit
He’d have probably gotten mine, but this has turned into a Trump type ego tantrum. Also, his complete glossing over the misuse of FISA is disconcerting coming from a Libertarian
11:40 AM - 4 Jul 2019

[Applewood]

Amash has been making a lot of noise lately about Trump and the Republican Party in general, so I figured sooner or later he would quit the party and possibly run for president -- if not in 2020, then perhaps in 2024.  Usually, when a politician is giving out sound bytes to  the media like this, it's not necessarily that he believes what he is saying, but rather, giving himself some good PR to help his political campaign, either now or sometime down the road. 

I don't know how I feel about Amash.   He might be an ok guy, but I don't know.  Not sure I would vote for him if he were to run for president.  I'd have to hear what he has to say about the issues, not what he says about Trump. 

People are crowing about him, calling him a traitor and such.   I say that's bovine excrement.  He doesn't have to be in lockstep with every other politician.  Doesn't make Amash a bad guy just because he disagrees.  I just hope he is not stuck on one issue --  his dislike for Trump.    He had better have more to offer if he aspires to higher office.

[Sighlass]

True. Nowadays, labels like liberal, libertarian, even conservative don't always accurately describe a person's beliefs.

Yep, the Constitutional Party (which I like) ran a candidate that to me didn't fit the party description the last election. The Libertarian Party did the same. You would figure those parties would get people that represent them a little more closely, but alas it didn't happen. 

[edpc]

Allahpundit   @allahpundit
If Amash runs for president as the Libertarian nominee next year, does he get more or fewer votes than Gary Johnson got in 2016?

11:27 AM - 4 Jul 2019

I don’t see what difference that makes. As far as I know, Perot is still the candidate who got the most third-party votes. That doesn’t mean he would’ve been a good president.

[Cyber Liberty]

Amash has been making a lot of noise lately about Trump and the Republican Party in general, so I figured sooner or later he would quit the party and possibly run for president -- if not in 2020, then perhaps in 2024.  Usually, when a politician is giving out sound bytes to  the media like this, it's not necessarily that he believes what he is saying, but rather, giving himself some good PR to help his political campaign, either now or sometime down the road. 

I don't know how I feel about Amash.   He might be an ok guy, but I don't know.  Not sure I would vote for him if he were to run for president.  I'd have to hear what he has to say about the issues, not what he says about Trump. 

People are crowing about him, calling him a traitor and such.   I say that's bovine excrement.  He doesn't have to be in lockstep with every other politician.  Doesn't make Amash a bad guy just because he disagrees.  I just hope he is not stuck on one issue --  his dislike for Trump.    He had better have more to offer if he aspires to higher office.

What matters most to any Representative is winning the next election.  The day Amash announced he wants to Impeach Trump was the day he got a worthy challenger for the Primary.  It comes as no surprise to me he's fleeing the GOP.  He went Jeffy Flake on his constituents.  I expect him to use the balance of his term bashing Trump at every turn, fair or not.

[truth_seeker]

Adios MF, and good riddance.

Private sector Trump is far better than attorney/government hack Amash.

Trump has been President for just over two years. He has accomplished a lot, but much more remains.

Amash has been an ambitious elected politician since 2008-eleven years.

--During his initial tenure in the State House, Amash sponsored five resolutions and twelve bills, but none of them passed.

He is an opportunist and a quitter. Picking July 4th for max media.

[libertybele]

Amash has been making a lot of noise lately about Trump and the Republican Party in general, so I figured sooner or later he would quit the party and possibly run for president -- if not in 2020, then perhaps in 2024.  Usually, when a politician is giving out sound bytes to  the media like this, it's not necessarily that he believes what he is saying, but rather, giving himself some good PR to help his political campaign, either now or sometime down the road. 

I don't know how I feel about Amash.   He might be an ok guy, but I don't know.  Not sure I would vote for him if he were to run for president.  I'd have to hear what he has to say about the issues, not what he says about Trump. 

People are crowing about him, calling him a traitor and such.   I say that's bovine excrement.  He doesn't have to be in lockstep with every other politician.  Doesn't make Amash a bad guy just because he disagrees.  I just hope he is not stuck on one issue --  his dislike for Trump.    He had better have more to offer if he aspires to higher office.

If his intent is to run for political office, does he think he's going to have a chance @ a 3rd party run??  Certainly he can't run under the GOP umbrella, because that's the party that he's proclaiming is offensive.

2020 running against Trump he'd be a fool and only hurt the GOP and help the DEMS.  2024 perhaps, but again a 3rd party run for him would be highly unsuccessful.  Perhaps he's thinking of challenging Trump??  Good luck with that one. 

I've said this before, in order for a 3rd party to be successful, there would have to be a mass exodus of people like Cruz, Paul, Jordan, etc., joining a party such as the Constitution Party and making a run for it under their umbrella.  I think it feasible, but they would have to have some extraordinary money behind them and a tremendous ground game.

[skeeter]

Adios MF, and good riddance.

Private sector Trump is far better than attorney/government hack Amash.

Trump has been President for just over two years. He has accomplished a lot, but much more remains.

Amash has been an ambitious elected politician since 2008-eleven years.

--During his initial tenure in the State House, Amash sponsored five resolutions and twelve bills, but none of them passed.

He is an opportunist and a quitter. Picking July 4th for max media.

If Amash is like most congressthings, he ran for office because its good for business.

With all of these China sanctions, and considering he's heavily invested there, he realized Congress was basically going to be a dry hole.

[corbe]

If his intent is to run for political office, does he think he's going to have a chance @ a 3rd party run??  Certainly he can't run under the GOP umbrella, because that's the party that he's proclaiming is offensive.

2020 running against Trump he'd be a fool and only hurt the GOP and help the DEMS.  2024 perhaps, but again a 3rd party run for him would be highly unsuccessful.  Perhaps he's thinking of challenging Trump??  Good luck with that one. 

I've said this before, in order for a 3rd party to be successful, there would have to be a mass exodus of people like Cruz, Paul, Jordan, etc., joining a party such as the Constitution Party and making a run for it under their umbrella.  I think it feasible, but they would have to have some extraordinary money behind them and a tremendous ground game.

   And should have started in Jan 2017.  It's much to late to start a credible ground game now.  It's Trump's to lose and anything is possible. @libertybele

[Cyber Liberty]

If his intent is to run for political office, does he think he's going to have a chance @ a 3rd party run??  Certainly he can't run under the GOP umbrella, because that's the party that he's proclaiming is offensive.

2020 running against Trump he'd be a fool and only hurt the GOP and help the DEMS.  2024 perhaps, but again a 3rd party run for him would be highly unsuccessful.  Perhaps he's thinking of challenging Trump??  Good luck with that one. 

I've said this before, in order for a 3rd party to be successful, there would have to be a mass exodus of people like Cruz, Paul, Jordan, etc., joining a party such as the Constitution Party and making a run for it under their umbrella.  I think it feasible, but they would have to have some extraordinary money behind them and a tremendous ground game.

He's not in it to win...Amash knows the best a third-party run can do is be a spoiler, and that's exactly what he wants to do.  Pretend he's a modern-day Ross Pea-row.

[Chosen Daughter]

"....partisan loyalties and rhetoric that divide and dehumanize us. I’m asking you to believe that we can do better than this two-party system — and to work toward it. If we continue to take America for granted, we will lose it.".......

I agree.  BOTH parties have lost their way and neither party represents the core principles and value upon which this country was founded. BOTH parties have trampled on the Constitution.  AMERICA and AMERICANS must come first again.

Unfortunately, I think we are already on the brink of losing this country.

AMERICA, what will we do without her?   

I agree with him.  Very sad time for America

[Applewood]

What matters most to any Representative is winning the next election.  The day Amash announced he wants to Impeach Trump was the day he got a worthy challenger for the Primary.  It comes as no surprise to me he's fleeing the GOP.  He went Jeffy Flake on his constituents. I expect him to use the balance of his term bashing Trump at every turn, fair or not.

And that will doom any chance Amash may have in a run for the presidency.  Bad enough that third party candidates   and independents have a snowball's chance in hell of winning as it is.  But in order to make any kind of decent showing, a candidate needs to really stand out.  In 2020, he has to have more to offer than a distaste for Trump.  Hell, there are tons of Democrats already who don't like Trump.  That alone would just make Amash just another anti-Trump candidate.  Big wup!  Voters won't give Amash a second look.  I know I won't.

[Chosen Daughter]

Trump celebrates after Amash quits GOP: 'Great news for the Republican Party'
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/451671-trump-celebrates-after-amash-quits-gop-great-news-for-the-republican

Well I have to admit I am not even going to read it.  Its sad.  Trump all this time blaming the Republican party for not supporting him.  Isn't it convenient that he has an excuse for not doing anything for more than two years with Republicans in control.  But someone leaves because of it and its a great day for him.

[Night Hides Not]

Well I have to admit I am not even going to read it.  Its sad.  Trump all this time blaming the Republican party for not supporting him.  Isn't it convenient that he has an excuse for not doing anything for more than two years with Republicans in control.  But someone leaves because of it and its a great day for him.

That tweet was just grist for the mill that feeds his base. The Trump fans I’ve met while on vacation are much more measured than those we see here at TBR and TOS. They’re more focused on potential policy outcomes than engaging in nasty arguments.

They disregard many of his tweets, calling it “Trump being Trump”, as being style over substance.