GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again

[Bigun]

I don't know if Moore is a "creep" or not, even if "everybody says" he is.  It's beside the point.  If a candidate is a creep, a week after the final ballots are printed is a suspicious time to allege it.

I'd like to see the 11th-hour dropping of sex-related allegations arrow be removed from the Rat's quiver of tactics against Republicans. 

It  worked like a charm against Moore, so well in fact they trotted it out within a year after the Kavenaugh hearings on the SJC were completed.  Republicans can count on a steady diet of this crap if they can't figure out how to stop it.  It's like a Pitcher who knows a Batter can't hit a a high, outside fastball.  He'll deliver nothing but that pitch until the batter learns how to hit it.

 

[Sighlass]

Is anyone living in Alabama on this thread?

You Rang? @Right_in_Virginia


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[truth_seeker]

1. Is the issue merely the age of the females, or

2. Was Moore credibly accused of ever forcing himself on any female?

[Cyber Liberty]

1. Is the issue merely the age of the females, or

2. Was Moore credibly accused of ever forcing himself on any female?

It's whatever it takes to separate a Republican from the Evangelicals, IOW it's both. 

[Sighlass]

“I’m seriously considering it. I think that was stolen,” Moore said of the race during a Friday interview.




He should have thwarted the robbery with his girl gun.

Or people can take the picture for what it means, Moore was addressing (at their request) the gun rights group BamaCarry (of which I am a member)....  @edpc

It is a Constitutional Carry group and advocates for individuals to carry any method they prefer (be it Open Carry or as Roy Moore showed, Concealed Carry).... 

Roy was very supportive of our grassroots group (BamaCarry). BamaCarry is the largest gun rights group in the state and supports GOA moreso than the NRA (which has failed to promote gun rights in state that came up for votes, example: Castle rule to include cars).

But no, instead folks just squeak about size of the scary gun. I Conceal Carry myself and a gun not much bigger than Moore proudly showed and my second gun of choice is also a revolver.

https://www.bamacarry.org/

[Cyber Liberty]

He should have thwarted the robbery with his girl gun.

A 2" .38 Special is not a "girl gun."  I know of a LAPD Homicide Detective who's daily carry was a gun exactly like the one in the photo you posted.  The inside-the-belt holster fit neatly in the small of the back under a suit coat.

[Cyber Liberty]

Or people can take the picture for what it means, Moore was addressing (at their request) the gun rights group BamaCarry (of which I am a member)....

It is a Constitutional Carry group and advocates for individuals to carry any method they prefer (be it Open Carry or as Roy Moore showed, Concealed Carry).... 

Roy was very supportive of our grassroots group (BamaCarry). BamaCarry is the largest gun rights group in the state and supports GOA moreso than the NRA (which has failed to promote gun rights in state that came up for votes, example: Castle rule to include cars).

But no, instead folks just squeak about size of the scary gun. I Conceal Carry myself and a gun not much bigger than Moore proudly showed and my second gun of choice is also a revolver.

https://www.bamacarry.org/

The 2" .38 is a great carry gun!

ETA:  I've seen liberals squawk that people carry to mask some sexual inferiority, then jeer that's a "girl gun."

[jmyrlefuller]

You mean like when Arthur Jones ran in IL?

Arthur Jones was a paper candidate in a safe Democratic seat, running because they literally could not find a single Republican in that district willing to bother. He was never going to win.

[edpc]

https://www.rollcall.com/politics/roy-moore-wife-gun


In this case, it was literally a girl gun.

[Cyber Liberty]

https://www.rollcall.com/politics/roy-moore-wife-gun


In this case, it was literally a girl gun.

Cute.  Ask anybody who got shot in the face with a .38 if that was a "girl gun."  Oh wait...you can't because they're dead.

[Smokin Joe]

https://www.rollcall.com/politics/roy-moore-wife-gun


In this case, it was literally a girl gun.

Big whoop. I carry a .38+P ladysmith airweight hammerless in my parka in the winter. It's light, will function in the pocket until empty. If I need to I'll shoot right through the coat with it. I'm not out to impress anyone with the size of my gun, I'm out to stop the criminal. What works, works.

[Sighlass]

https://www.rollcall.com/politics/roy-moore-wife-gun

In this case, it was literally a girl gun.

Thanks for the article.... If I am not mistaken the big balding fellow in the background is Eddie Fulmer (President of BamaCarry)...

[edpc]

Some people should read a ballistics table. That's especially true, if you plan on shooting (wasting) a +P load from a 2" barrel through heavy clothing and into another person's heavy clothing.

[Cyber Liberty]

Some people should read a ballistics table. That's especially true, if you plan on shooting (wasting) a +P load from a 2" barrel through heavy clothing and into another person's heavy clothing.

Whatevs.  People choose their carry weapon with more considerations in mind than ballistics.  Is it light?  Is it reliable?  Is in maneuverable inside a large pocket?  As I stated above, I knew of a cop who carried that gun on the job every day, after he qualified for it.

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Now, to the topic...Would Roy Moore be a nightmare fo the GOP if he ran?  I dunno.  I know a lot of folks (who don't live in AL) would rather he didn't, whatever their reasons.  Afraid he'll snatch away a sure win in AL?  He'd be a PITA in the Senate of he did win?  Who knows.   

[edpc]

Whatevs.  People choose their carry weapon with more considerations in mind than ballistics.  Is it light?  Is it reliable?  Is in maneuverable inside a large pocket?  As I stated above, I knew of a cop who carried that gun on the job every day, after he qualified for it.

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Now, to the topic...Would Roy Moore be a nightmare fo the GOP if he ran?  I dunno.  I know a lot of folks (who don't live in AL) would rather he didn't, whatever their reasons.  Afraid he'll snatch away a sure win in AL?  He'd be a PITA in the Senate of he did win?  Who knows.   

Whatevs. Aside from reliability, ballistics are the only thing that matters. I know of a gunfight in 1986 between multiple FBI agents and two bank robbers in Miami that prove it. There was an entirely new law enforcement caliber created, due to it.

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Now, back to the topic. The biggest problems Moore had in the latter stages of the campaign were his disappearance and terrible representation. His campaign spokeswoman couldn’t even really speak for him. I don’t see him attracting top quality help in his effort.

[Cyber Liberty]

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Now, back to the topic. The biggest problems Moore had in the latter stages of the campaign were his disappearance and terrible representation. His campaign spokeswoman couldn’t even really speak for him. I don’t see him attracting top quality help in his effort.

I wondered about that.  Was it the scandal distraction, or was it just poor planning?

[Hoodat]

Can I recommend the .357 with a 10" barrel?  Well over 1,000 ft-lbs.  Not very concealable though.

[Smokin Joe]

Some people should read a ballistics table. That's especially true, if you plan on shooting (wasting) a +P load from a 2" barrel through heavy clothing and into another person's heavy clothing.

Why thank you for that. I guess I could spend all day digging for something more substantial.
The outside of the pocket is the thinnest part of the parka.
While I prefer .45 ACP, I'd only get one out through the pocket before the smokestack jam.
Surprise counts for a lot. This is just hand in pocket, bullet out, very close range. Lather, rinse, repeat. The second one (etc.) doesn't have to punch a new hole in the coat.

[edpc]

I wondered about that.  Was it the scandal distraction, or was it just poor planning?

It was probably a little of both. I think he expected the party to fall in behind him - or at least Trump. Ivanka’s comments likely ended that. Without the people to handle the outside media blitz, he let them steer the course.

[Cyber Liberty]

Can I recommend the .357 with a 10" barrel?  Well over 1,000 ft-lbs.  Not very concealable though.

Scrooge that girly concealed garbage, go for broke...

[edpc]

Scrooge that girly concealed garbage, go for broke...

As the story goes.....


An old-time sheriff was at a banquet. A woman approached him and said, "I see you're carrying your sidearm, Sheriff. Are you expecting trouble?" The sheriff replied, "No, Ma'am. If I was expecting trouble, I'd have brought my rifle."





Available in pistol calibers at a store near you.

[Sighlass]

Now, back to the topic. The biggest problems Moore had in the latter stages of the campaign were his disappearance and terrible representation. His campaign spokeswoman couldn’t even really speak for him. I don’t see him attracting top quality help in his effort.

I went to a rally in my neck of the woods (posted pictures in another thread) Moore put on about week and a half before the election (I don't remember exact time, I am getting old).... It was a circus with the media finally having to be told to stay back or be thrown out. The media was so aggressive that they started to take the center of the room (not allowing the voting audience from viewing)... It was the last meeting Moore held that was civil... Then you got late night comedians sending people to disrupt the meetings and to play the fool while harassing the members in attendance. The MSM reported on the disruptions more than the message which was negative for Moore... so he shifted gears and started doing more interviews and such instead of allowing the jerks to pull more stunts....


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How would you of proceeded ? If you couldn't hold a rally without the disruptions? It is easy to stand back now and say how you would of done a better job. But for most of us, I think we realize that it is hard to defend oneself while everything including the kitchen sink was being thrown at him. Not from just one side either, from the left the GOPe right, the swamp, the media, California billionaires funding fake bot campaigns against him.. fake YouTube commercials, fake Facebook pages... it just goes on and on and on...

I have never seen a dirtier election.... @edpc

[edpc]

It is easy to stand back now and say how you would of done a better job.

It was also easy to say it at the time and many did. When he did send people into the lion’s den, they were terrible. Janet Porter couldn’t or wouldn’t answer direct questions about statements Moore had made in the past. Ted Crockett made a fool of himself and was, quite literally, a mouth-breathing stereotype.

[Elderberry]

The 2" .38 is a great carry gun!

ETA:  I've seen liberals squawk that people carry to mask some sexual inferiority, then jeer that's a "girl gun."

My favorite has always been the 3" S&W Model 36.

[Sighlass]

It was also easy to say it at the time and many did. When he did send people into the lion’s den, they were terrible. Janet Porter couldn’t or wouldn’t answer direct questions about statements Moore had made in the past.....

Into the Lion's Den... is about right.... gotcha questions that took quotes out of context.... I agree with Trump about just not going on shows like CNN... it ain't gonna come out in your favor.

Simple listen to the source of the quotes and see for yourself... Roy holds his own and then some...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4683713/roy-moore-calls-criminalizing-homosexuality

And I agree with every word Moore said... in context... in that they are both (acts homosexuality and bestiality) a moral precept in which the country was founded (both were illegal).