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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #350 on: March 02, 2019, 10:45:44 pm »
Me, too, on compromise. Compromise is the path to where we are. Those 'expedients' have all but shredded the Constitution, wrecked public education, and if the GOP is to be irrelevant, maybe compromising to chase the "moderate vote' is how it got that way (Dem Lite). NO more.


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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #351 on: March 02, 2019, 10:46:56 pm »

Ok, what do you get from defeat even though your self-rightous?


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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #352 on: March 02, 2019, 10:52:24 pm »

Ok, what do you get from defeat even though your self-rightous?

Are you calling me "self-rightous," buddy?  Insulting people in lieu of reasoned debate probably gets you everywhere in your world.  You utterly failed to convince me it's OK to abandon principles.
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #353 on: March 03, 2019, 12:26:21 am »
Compromising with what you see as evil most likely is required if Republicans are to stay relevant.

From the Garden, right up to this very day, compromise is exactly how evil grows.
A man who would compromise his principles had no principles to compromise.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #354 on: March 03, 2019, 12:31:51 am »
From the Garden, right up to this very day, compromise is exactly how evil grows.
A man who would compromise his principles had no principles to compromise.

Sticking to principles is the reason conservatives lose, so the saying goes.
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #355 on: March 03, 2019, 12:46:29 am »
Sticking to principles is the reason conservatives lose, so the saying goes.

The saying is absurd.
TRUTH compromised with a lie becomes a lie.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #356 on: March 03, 2019, 12:48:55 am »
The saying is absurd.
TRUTH compromised with a lie becomes a lie.

Compromising with evil is evil.  Compromising with leftists always leads to more evil because Republicans always give something valuable up, while Rats don't.  The leftwards ratchet grinds on.
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #357 on: March 03, 2019, 12:53:27 am »
Compromising with evil is evil.  Compromising with leftists always leads to more evil because Republicans always give something valuable up, while Rats don't.  The leftwards ratchet grinds on.

Exactly right.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #358 on: March 03, 2019, 01:06:22 am »

The basic element of the American Government was setup that both sides sit down talk and find a common ground. Sometimes you do have to Compromise. The Constitution was founded on a Compromise.

We're way past compromise.  If you notice, the only compromise that has happened over the last 40-50 years is the Republicans moving into democrat positions.  Because the dems do not want to and will not compromise.  We need to very clearly understand that.

Oh, and the Constitution thingie?  It's been trampled into pulp.
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #359 on: March 03, 2019, 01:06:43 am »
Are you calling me "self-rightous," buddy?  Insulting people in lieu of reasoned debate probably gets you everywhere in your world.  You utterly failed to convince me it's OK to abandon principles.


So if Roy Moore looses again, would you considered that a win?
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #360 on: March 03, 2019, 01:10:57 am »
Ok.

ALL OF YOU.

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@mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty @Sanguine  @Mod1 (ping the rest of the mods) @QueenCatofAragon  @Right_in_Virginia  @Mesaclone  @Bigun @roamer_1  @Smokin Joe  @corbe  @Emjay  @XenaLee  @libertybele  @kevindavis  @TomSea  @LegalAmerican

@ All of you

What made the "Greatest Generation" the greatest generation?

What gave you the ability to sit here now and talk such stupid shit?

How many of you "knew" someone from that generation?

How many of you actually had the chance to hear what they had to say?

Not many talked of what they saw, did, or endured.

But one thing was absolutey clear.

Babyfaced mama boys. Depression era people. Rich or poor. Shit happened to people that needed to happen AT THAT TIME.

They all united to overcome.

Ya'll sit here and debate stupid shit. Principles yada yada yada

People can claim it was some Holy Crusade.

It was the worst human beings could inflict on other human beings. Evil won.

And then evil disappeared from the "greatest generation".

You know why?

They didn't compromise. They didn't back down from their principles. They didn't back down from their faith.

You know how I know this?

Because of this stupid effing "debate".


Nah Just kidding. I know this because I Live this FU88888 life.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #361 on: March 03, 2019, 01:22:42 am »
Ok.

ALL OF YOU.

(I need to make a ping list)

@mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty @Sanguine  @Mod1 (ping the rest of the mods) @QueenCatofAragon  @Right_in_Virginia  @Mesaclone  @Bigun @roamer_1  @Smokin Joe  @corbe  @Emjay  @XenaLee  @libertybele  @kevindavis  @TomSea  @LegalAmerican

@ All of you

What made the "Greatest Generation" the greatest generation?

What gave you the ability to sit here now and talk such stupid shit?

How many of you "knew" someone from that generation?

How many of you actually had the chance to hear what they had to say?

Not many talked of what they saw, did, or endured.

But one thing was absolutey clear.

Babyfaced mama boys. Depression era people. Rich or poor. Shit happened to people that needed to happen AT THAT TIME.

They all united to overcome.

Ya'll sit here and debate stupid shit. Principles yada yada yada

People can claim it was some Holy Crusade.

It was the worst human beings could inflict on other human beings. Evil won.

And then evil disappeared from the "greatest generation".

You know why?

They didn't compromise. They didn't back down from their principles. They didn't back down from their faith.

You know how I know this?

Because of this stupid effing "debate".


Nah Just kidding. I know this because I Live this FU88888 life.

@bigheadfred I'm so sorry you see it this way.  I was just about to compliment several people on this topic for how well and fruitful the debate was.  It went off the rails yesterday, but today has been very good.  And, TBRfriends can go back and forth and disagree without it being an all out war.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #362 on: March 03, 2019, 01:25:45 am »
Ok.

ALL OF YOU.

(I need to make a ping list)

@mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty @Sanguine  @Mod1 (ping the rest of the mods) @QueenCatofAragon  @Right_in_Virginia  @Mesaclone  @Bigun @roamer_1  @Smokin Joe  @corbe  @Emjay  @XenaLee  @libertybele  @kevindavis  @TomSea  @LegalAmerican

@ All of you

What made the "Greatest Generation" the greatest generation?

What gave you the ability to sit here now and talk such stupid shit?

How many of you "knew" someone from that generation?

How many of you actually had the chance to hear what they had to say?

Not many talked of what they saw, did, or endured.

But one thing was absolutey clear.

Babyfaced mama boys. Depression era people. Rich or poor. Shit happened to people that needed to happen AT THAT TIME.

They all united to overcome.

Ya'll sit here and debate stupid shit. Principles yada yada yada

People can claim it was some Holy Crusade.

It was the worst human beings could inflict on other human beings. Evil won.

And then evil disappeared from the "greatest generation".

You know why?

They didn't compromise. They didn't back down from their principles. They didn't back down from their faith.

You know how I know this?

Because of this stupid effing "debate".


Nah Just kidding. I know this because I Live this FU88888 life.

That's easy!  Conservatism made it great.   And Conservatism is the only thing that can or will save this nation from the radical left.  I don't have time to address the rest of it (still have company)... but that's my succinct answer to your first question.  My parents' generation were moral and principled Conservative Americans.  Them and folks like them made this country what it is today.  Unfortunately, the 60's brats took what they produced and started trashing it, with the help of the radical left (commies)... and they haven't stopped trashing it since then.   **nononono*
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #363 on: March 03, 2019, 01:27:23 am »
@bigheadfred I'm so sorry you see it this way.  I was just about to compliment several people on this topic for how well and fruitful the debate was.  It went off the rails yesterday, but today has been very good.  And, TBRfriends can go back and forth and disagree without it being an all out war.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #364 on: March 03, 2019, 01:29:20 am »
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #365 on: March 03, 2019, 01:43:02 am »
@bigheadfred I'm so sorry you see it this way.  I was just about to compliment several people on this topic for how well and fruitful the debate was.  It went off the rails yesterday, but today has been very good.  And, TBRfriends can go back and forth and disagree without it being an all out war.

Why are you sorry I see it this way? It is the way life really is. It is the way history has always been.

There is no personal disrespect meant to any people posting on this forum.

Remember the quote from Genghis Khan.

 â€œI am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” “If you're afraid - don't do it, - if you're doing it - don't be afraid!” “an action committed in anger is an action doomed to failure.”

I'm not calling for your anger.

I am calling for riders on the storm.





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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #366 on: March 03, 2019, 01:47:45 am »
Why are you sorry I see it this way? It is the way life really is. It is the way history has always been.

There is no personal disrespect meant to any people posting on this forum.

Remember the quote from Genghis Khan.

 â€œI am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” “If you're afraid - don't do it, - if you're doing it - don't be afraid!” “an action committed in anger is an action doomed to failure.”

I'm not calling for your anger.

I am calling for riders on the storm.

OK, trying hard to understand what you're saying.  You seemed to be saying that we were wasting our time debating big issues.  Is that not correct?

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #367 on: March 03, 2019, 01:49:52 am »
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #368 on: March 03, 2019, 02:29:40 am »
OK, trying hard to understand what you're saying.  You seemed to be saying that we were wasting our time debating big issues.  Is that not correct?

Debate all you want to. Per your own posts my perception is to stop the general debate and focus on the the first five most important things that a reasoned debate MIGHT resolve.

Which and how would you enumerate the first five?

Of your first choice, give the poisoned atmosphere that would immediately surround it, what would be your opening question or statement?

How would you defend or contest? They won't listen to your reason, your documentation, your witnesses.

So how to defend that?
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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #369 on: March 03, 2019, 02:39:32 am »
Debate all you want to. Per your own posts my perception is to stop the general debate and focus on the the first five most important things that a reasoned debate MIGHT resolve.

Which and how would you enumerate the first five?

Of your first choice, give the poisoned atmosphere that would immediately surround it, what would be your opening question or statement?

How would you defend or contest? They won't listen to your reason, your documentation, your witnesses.

So how to defend that?

I've always considered internet Forums to be like Horoscopes in the newspaper (back in the day we only had newspapers.  And we LIKED it!):  "For Amusement Purposes Only."

It's interesting as food for thought, but I don't seriously think my words pecked out on a screen will cause  any changes in gubmint policy.

I just can't take myself that seriously.  Now....

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #370 on: March 03, 2019, 02:49:19 am »
I made one post in this entire "Seinfield thread", I'll make one more and be done with it.

Judge Moore may decide he wants to run again. It's his right to run if he wishes.

It will be up to the Republican voters of Alabama to decide whether to give him the nomination, and whether to support him in the general.

If the Republicans of Alabama decide that they DO want Judge Moore to have his second chance at the Senate, then the national party had better well get behind him this time. I sense that Mr. Trump will.

Could Judge Moore win in a rematch against Jones?
Can't say. It was pretty close last time. I'm sensing Moore will retain all the votes he had last time and pick up enough voters who "got took" by the female nonsense last time to make it over the top in 2020.

I believe Moore would make a more reliably "conservative" Senator than just about anyone who's currently IN the Senate, and that includes guys like Cruz.
He'd vote "on our side" close to 100% of the time.

He'd get my vote.

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #371 on: March 03, 2019, 03:19:49 am »
@Hoodat, I've been meaning to ask - who is the winsome young lady in your avatar?

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #373 on: March 03, 2019, 03:29:23 am »
@Sanguine

No idea.  Stole it from a friend.

She's got your attitude.  :laugh:

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Re: GOP nightmare as Alabama's Roy Moore signals he might run again
« Reply #374 on: March 03, 2019, 03:33:21 am »
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