Schumer: Trump Is Not Going to Get the Wall in Any Form

[mystery-ak]

16 Dec 2018

Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) declared President Donald Trump was not going to get the U.S.-Mexico border wall “in any form.”

Schumer said, “President Trump should understand there are not the votes for the wall in the House or the Senate. He is not going to get the wall in any form. Even the House which is a majority Republican, they don’t have the votes for his $5 billion wall plan. Ryan, afraid of what’s going to happen, sent all the House home until Wednesday night, a day and a half before the shutdown. They certainly don’t have the votes in the Senate. Now we Democrats, leader Pelosi and I offered the president two options as to how to avoid the shutdown. We should not let a temper tantrum, threats push us in the direction of doing something that everybody even our Republican colleagues know is wrong.”

He added, “Leader McConnell, Chairman Shelby has said we shouldn’t shut down the government. They should join us in one of these two proposals which would get more than enough votes passed and avoid a shutdown. If the president wants to debate the wall next year he can. I don’t think he’ll get it. He shouldn’t use innocent workers as hostage for his temper tantrum to throw a bone to his base.”

https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/12/16/schumer-trump-is-not-going-to-get-the-wall-in-any-form/

[HoustonSam]

The primary obligation of any government is to protect the country's territory.  A government which refuses to fulfill that obligation should be shut down.

[edpc]

A government which refuses to fulfill that obligation should be shut down.

Especially if the admin proposing the barrier isn’t taking it seriously.


U.S. Army soldiers have removed barbed wire along the US-Mexico border in areas where the Trump administration has said more border security measures are needed after local community leaders raised concerns.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-argues-wall-border-security-measure-pulled-back/story?id=59830679

[RetBobbyMI]

DoD is fully funded for the rest of the fiscal year. Trump got more than bargained for so could and should order them to build the wall where needed.

[edpc]

DoD is fully funded for the rest of the fiscal year. Trump got more than bargained for so could and should order them to build the wall where needed.

Most of that money is marked for specific spending. To repurpose the funds, Congressional approval is required.

[skeeter]

Most of that money is marked for specific spending. To repurpose the funds, Congressional approval is required.

Assuming for a moment trump IS serious, I wonder if there's not something that he can do as CinC without congress. After all, presidents now routinely cite national security as a reason they need to execute limited military action.

[corbe]

   I thought I read somewhere yesterday that Trump has only spent 6% of the $1.3B Congress allocated for border security in FY 2018, could be fake news.

[skeeter]

   I thought I read somewhere yesterday that Trump has only spent 6% of the $1.3B Congress allocated for border security in FY 2018, could be fake news.

Maybe this is why.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/07/29/border-wall-contracts-delayed-pro-migration-ceo/

[corbe]

Maybe this is why.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/07/29/border-wall-contracts-delayed-pro-migration-ceo/

   Certainly makes sense to me @skeeter

[edpc]

Assuming for a moment trump IS serious, I wonder if there's not something that he can do as CinC without congress. After all, presidents now routinely cite national security as a reason they need to execute limited military action.

Sure, you pretty much saw that in the deployment, prior to the mid terms. What they did was about as far as they could take it. They could increase the number of personnel, but not really expand the scope of what they can do.

[skeeter]

Sure, you pretty much saw that in the deployment, prior to the mid terms. What they did was about as far as they could take it. They could increase the number of personnel, but not really expand the scope of what they can do.

It seems to me that bombing the crap out of a sovereign nation, Serbia for example, in an undeclared war exceeds in scope the building of a simple border barrier. Alas I'm sure congress would disagree.

[edpc]

It seems to me that bombing the crap out of a sovereign nation, Serbia for example, in an undeclared war exceeds in scope the building of a simple border barrier. Alas I'm sure congress would disagree.

That was justified under the NATO charter and technical observations of specific charters with the UN. If something similar could be used, I’m sure WH lawyers have/are exploring it.

[RetBobbyMI]

Most of that money is marked for specific spending. To repurpose the funds, Congressional approval is required.

If the amount to be reprogrammed (correct term) is under a certain amount and within the same appropriations, nothing is required with respect to Congress.  If over that threshold, what ever that is, then Congress only has to be “notified”.

[Hoodat]

Schumer: Trump Is Not Going to Get the Wall in Any Form

It's America's wall, you treasonous bastard.

[Chosen Daughter]

MSM has pointed out that these caravans are well organized.  They have created a government within their caravan.  Trump has pointed out that they carry the flags of their country.  Now they have admitted that it is a political invasion.  Asking for reparations for what the U.S. has done to Honduras.

Its a political invasion.  So why can't we declare it as an invasion?  The Constitution states that government must protect states against invasion.

U.S. Constitution
Article 4 Section 4

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

[sneakypete]

It's America's wall, you treasonous bastard.

@Hoodat

Chuckie MIGHT care as much about Israel as he does Chuckie,but he doesn't give a damn about America.